Coach Richt was 5-10 against the Gators

[GoldensButtcheeks]

Agreed 100%. What he did at UGA I view as almost irrelevant. If he does well at Miami he needs a raise or extension. If he does badly at Miami he needs to be fired. What he did at UGA is completely irrelevant to evaluating his Miami job performance.

Success or failure at one stop doesn't necessarily been success or failure at another. Chuck Fairbanks did great at Oklahoma but was a total flop at Colorado. Gene Stallings was the opposite. He originally was a total flop at TAMU but later was a great coach at Bama.

Richt did good but not great at UGA. And hopefully will do great at Miami.

Just like how what Al Golden did at Temple was irrelevant, look where that logic got us.

Oh Golden sucked because of Temple? Please. Looking at overall record is a stupid way to judge a coach. Temple was losing all their games when Golden got there. He got them to 9 win seasons. Golden wasn't trash because of what he did at Temple, he was trash because he coached Miami like it was Temple.

But this rally to make sure Miami fans don't get fooled again, what's the point. Richt just got paid 4 million, he isn't going anywhere. Not to mention, he has the best resume of any Miami coach ever before coming to Miami. Sack up troll. Get a new tampon and get ready for the season.

All I brought up was his record against UF, which is alarming after 15 years of playing them annually.

Florida players vs Georgia players. That's simple. Florida has winning records over every rival (besides us) so that's something they do well. Now Richt's back in the Florida way.

Hmm I'll have to check that stat about UF having winning records over every rival, but if true that's a valid point. Still do they have a .6667 winning percentage over all their rivals, because that's what they had against Richt when he was HC at UGA? That number could also be much higher if Muschamp never coached there.

 

[GoldensButtcheeks]

Your point? Richt is in Miami now. Miami doesn't play the turds every year. Richt is 13-2 against GT but that doesn't matter either. I'll judge his tenure in Miami based on what he does here, not what he did at UGA.

Agreed 100%. What he did at UGA I view as almost irrelevant. If he does well at Miami he needs a raise or extension. If he does badly at Miami he needs to be fired. What he did at UGA is completely irrelevant to evaluating his Miami job performance.

Success or failure at one stop doesn't necessarily been success or failure at another. Chuck Fairbanks did great at Oklahoma but was a total flop at Colorado. Gene Stallings was the opposite. He originally was a total flop at TAMU but later was a great coach at Bama.

Richt did good but not great at UGA. And hopefully will do great at Miami.

Just like how what Al Golden did at Temple was irrelevant, look where that logic got us.

If you want to use that logic then why wasn't Coker a hot commodity when we fired him?

True - but Coker did get another HC job at UTSA. While Golden and Shannon are not even coordinators now, yet alone HCs again.

 

[GoldensButtcheeks]

Last year's loss to UF was inexcusable. I'm not sure what he was thinking, maybe losing al faith in the other two QB's. I don't know. Actually they lost the last two years to UF with no one at QB. Ohio State has to beat Michigan. Georgia has to beat Florida. I do not think he was really happy at UGA in the end. Change was good for both schools. I think Miami got the coach it needed, and he will win there.

I think if I were Blake James I would have hired Richt. I never said Richt was a bad coach, his 145–51 record almost gives him a 75% overall winning percentage.

However if we use [MENTION=10126]KevinCaneFace[/MENTION] logic and not judge a coach by his overall record, then what should we judge him by? I think it's 100% fair to say that his 5-10 record against UF while at UGA is subpar and would be unacceptable at Miami.

 

[DTP]

Check the previous Georgia head coaches records against Florida. While it's a bit of an indictment that his teams were beaten pretty regularly by Florid, it doesn't really matter to me now since he's not the coach of Georgia and Miami rarely plays Florida. I'm more concerned with his record against Florida State. You know, the team Miami actually plays every year.

 

[Golsen82]

Dude, if Golden could beat UF, Richt can easily beat them. Also, if Golden can come close to beating FSU than I believe CMR can get the team over the hump and pull a W over them

 

[Golsen82]

Your point? Richt is in Miami now. Miami doesn't play the turds every year. Richt is 13-2 against GT but that doesn't matter either. I'll judge his tenure in Miami based on what he does here, not what he did at UGA.

Agreed 100%. What he did at UGA I view as almost irrelevant. If he does well at Miami he needs a raise or extension. If he does badly at Miami he needs to be fired. What he did at UGA is completely irrelevant to evaluating his Miami job performance.

Success or failure at one stop doesn't necessarily been success or failure at another. Chuck Fairbanks did great at Oklahoma but was a total flop at Colorado. Gene Stallings was the opposite. He originally was a total flop at TAMU but later was a great coach at Bama.

Richt did good but not great at UGA. And hopefully will do great at Miami.

Just like how what Al Golden did at Temple was irrelevant, look where that logic got us.

If you want to use that logic then why wasn't Coker a hot commodity when we fired him?

True - but Coker did get another HC job at UTSA. While Golden and Shannon are not even coordinators now, yet alone HCs again.

Yep golden has it easy making bank in the NFL

 

[Golsen82]

Last year's loss to UF was inexcusable. I'm not sure what he was thinking, maybe losing al faith in the other two QB's. I don't know. Actually they lost the last two years to UF with no one at QB. Ohio State has to beat Michigan. Georgia has to beat Florida. I do not think he was really happy at UGA in the end. Change was good for both schools. I think Miami got the coach it needed, and he will win there.

I think if I were Blake James I would have hired Richt. I never said Richt was a bad coach, his 145–51 record almost gives him a 75% overall winning percentage.

However if we use [MENTION=10126]KevinCaneFace[/MENTION] logic and not judge a coach by his overall record, then what should we judge him by? I think it's 100% fair to say that his 5-10 record against UF while at UGA is subpar and would be unacceptable at Miami.

Richts a great coach. You dont win 145 games in the SEC as a mediocre coach

 

[GoldensButtcheeks]

Dude, if Golden could beat UF, Richt can easily beat them. Also, if Golden can come close to beating FSU than I believe CMR can get the team over the hump and pull a W over them

But that's the same logic my friends at UGA had with Richt. Remember Richts crowning achievement at UGA was being a play short from beating Alabama in the 2012 SEC championship (that would have sent him to them NCCG)

 

[GoldensButtcheeks]

Last year's loss to UF was inexcusable. I'm not sure what he was thinking, maybe losing al faith in the other two QB's. I don't know. Actually they lost the last two years to UF with no one at QB. Ohio State has to beat Michigan. Georgia has to beat Florida. I do not think he was really happy at UGA in the end. Change was good for both schools. I think Miami got the coach it needed, and he will win there.

I think if I were Blake James I would have hired Richt. I never said Richt was a bad coach, his 145–51 record almost gives him a 75% overall winning percentage.

However if we use [MENTION=10126]KevinCaneFace[/MENTION] logic and not judge a coach by his overall record, then what should we judge him by? I think it's 100% fair to say that his 5-10 record against UF while at UGA is subpar and would be unacceptable at Miami.

Richts a great coach. You dont win 145 games in the SEC as a mediocre coach

Never said he was a bad coach, just alarmed that his winning percentage against our second or maybe even first biggest rival is .333 after 15 years of playing them every year.

 

[Cane Fan 4 Life]

Some of those losses came at hands of Urban Meyer's national championship teams. Have to let a few of those slide...

 

[MiamiJoe]

I'm pretty sure Saban beat Penn State, Michigan and Ohio State his last year at Michigan State. Shocker, Michigan State even beat the 10th ranked Florida Gators in the 2000 Citrus Bowl 5 Days after Saban left for LSU.

He beat Penn State and Michigan but was still 2-3 against them, meaning he was 1-3 before his final year...OSU was 6-6, he also beat Notre Dame that year who was 5-7...But don't mention him getting beat 52-28 by a Purdue team that finished 7-5.

You make great points and we can sit here and argue plus counter argue even the most successful coaches losses on very small bodies of work. However Coach Richt has a very large body of work against UF, 15 years and in that span his winning percentage was .333. Crazy to think that a coach whose winning percentage was .333 for 15 years against one of our most bitter rivals is now our HC and loved by 99% of the board.

Out most bitter rivals???? Lol..man they dont even want to play us..that aint no rivalry....he will do better against FSU plus the talent in Florida is better than Georgia..everyone knws that.....he will do fine here....

LOL - all you young guys. Let me tell you something us older Canes fans learned LONG ago. The Noles may suck, but the Gators swallow.

One other thing you missed as an old Cane fan you never spell gator witha Capital G Old Coach K rolls over in his grave everytime thats done.

 

[MiamiJoe]

Bobby Bowden was 14-21 vs Miami yet Noles fans don't question his body of work because of it.

 

[MiamiJoe]

In those same 15 years FSU with all their talent was 7-8 against gators because Florida had some great teams.

 

[JD08]

Jeebus, why do simpletons think a coach makes up the entire fricking team? I'll be glad when the season finally gets here so we can stop having stupid ****e like this to read.

 

[GoldensButtcheeks]

In those same 15 years FSU with all their talent was 7-8 against gators because Florida had some great teams.

Yet still thats a better winning % than Richt had against UF. Imagine if Richt was 5-10 against FSU for 15 years here, it would never happen because he would be fired long before, but people would be in outrage.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

I want to believe in CMR, but I feel like everyone is falling into the same trap we fell into Golden by drinking the kool aid and not looking into the stats. I mean Golden was 27–34 at Temple before he was hired and nobody questioned the hire except Jason Whitlock (who everyone chastised at the time), yet he was 100% right.

To me it's just a statistic people overlook, Richts record against UF. In a lot ways we can argue FSU is better positioned than UF the next few years. If Richt went 5-10 against UF, how can we expect him to even have better odds against FSU?

Nothing like Golden. I don't ever remember UGA being good growing up until Richt came and rebuilt it in 2000.

 

[GoldensButtcheeks]

I want to believe in CMR, but I feel like everyone is falling into the same trap we fell into Golden by drinking the kool aid and not looking into the stats. I mean Golden was 27–34 at Temple before he was hired and nobody questioned the hire except Jason Whitlock (who everyone chastised at the time), yet he was 100% right.

To me it's just a statistic people overlook, Richts record against UF. In a lot ways we can argue FSU is better positioned than UF the next few years. If Richt went 5-10 against UF, how can we expect him to even have better odds against FSU?

Nothing like Golden. I don't ever remember UGA being good growing up until Richt came and rebuilt it in 2000.

Richt is way better than Golden. I mean Richt at least has a WINNING RECORD :roll-canes3: (still can't believe AlFraudo sauce was our coach)

However - if you know a UGA fan call them up. They will all say "Richt good coach & great man, but his record against UF....."

 

[canesthing3]

Football season can't get here soon enough. Too many negative threads that scream troll popping up.

 

[Waterfall]

Your point? Richt is in Miami now. Miami doesn't play the turds every year. Richt is 13-2 against GT but that doesn't matter either. I'll judge his tenure in Miami based on what he does here, not what he did at UGA.

Agreed 100%. What he did at UGA I view as almost irrelevant. If he does well at Miami he needs a raise or extension. If he does badly at Miami he needs to be fired. What he did at UGA is completely irrelevant to evaluating his Miami job performance.

Success or failure at one stop doesn't necessarily been success or failure at another. Chuck Fairbanks did great at Oklahoma but was a total flop at Colorado. Gene Stallings was the opposite. He originally was a total flop at TAMU but later was a great coach at Bama.

Richt did good but not great at UGA. And hopefully will do great at Miami.

Just like how what Al Golden did at Temple was irrelevant, look where that logic got us.

If you want to use that logic then why wasn't Coker a hot commodity when we fired him?

True - but Coker did get another HC job at UTSA. While Golden and Shannon are not even coordinators now, yet alone HCs again.

Fired coaches almost never get another power conference head job again. Let alone be "hot coaching commodities." Heck nobody will even hire Tressel, the most successful fired coach of all time. Richt wasn't exactly a hot commodity last winter but he had far more offers than a typical fired coach does. He was also considered for the UVA job although I'm not sure if he was the front runner.

Heck Bo Pelini was actually a moderately successful Nebraska coach. But after he got fired he ended up at an FCS school. See also Phil Fulmer, who was a successful Tennessee coach for most of his career. And after Fulmer was fired nobody would hire him.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

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