Coach Mark Richt event.

I’m not advocating for that but it’s not like it’s a bad idea. I don’t get the rational that “if we can’t completely eradicate the problem let’s just do nothing”. Any bill/law/regulation in any facet of our country can’t 100% change any problem that we have, but even if it makes a slight different then it’s worth it. The overwhelming majority of our nation supports stronger universal background checks and longer waiting periods, there’s nothing “political” about that and it doesn’t infringe on the 2A.

It does nothing to eradicate anything. Legal gun owners will now have another hurdle to jump while the criminals continue on with their unrestricted guns.

You think that the checks and wait times will cause the gun violence to go down? What weird world do you live in man? Bad guys will always get their guns no matter what fake obstacles you place in front of them.

Just explain to me, not even in detail, how you will control bad guys getting guns from other bad guys? How do you propose stopping that?

This isn't about checks and wait times, this is all about bad people doing bad things. The gun is an innocent bystander in all of this.
 
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It does nothing to eradicate anything. Legal gun owners will now have another hurdle to jump while the criminals continue on with their unrestricted guns.

You think that the checks and wait times will cause the gun violence to go down? What weird world do you live in man? Bad guys will always get their guns no matter what fake obstacles you place in front of them.

Just explain to me, not even in detail, how you will control bad guys getting guns from other bad guys? How do you propose stopping that?

This isn't about checks and wait times, this is all about bad people doing bad things. The gun is an innocent bystander in all of this.
Not everyone who wants to do something bad with a gun knows another “bad guy” to get a gun from. Many people who kill others with guns bought theirs legally and a simple more stringent background check would’ve flagged them. I’m a gun owner and support the 2A but in many states in an absolute joke of a process to buy a gun.
 
It does nothing to eradicate anything. Legal gun owners will now have another hurdle to jump while the criminals continue on with their unrestricted guns.

You think that the checks and wait times will cause the gun violence to go down? What weird world do you live in man? Bad guys will always get their guns no matter what fake obstacles you place in front of them.

Just explain to me, not even in detail, how you will control bad guys getting guns from other bad guys? How do you propose stopping that?

This isn't about checks and wait times, this is all about bad people doing bad things. The gun is an innocent bystander in all of this.

You did not just call a weapon crafted to take a life, an innocent bystander. Lol
 
Good luck DJ we all need to come together and work this out.don't believe banning guns would solve anything but add to it.because only people with a gun would be the police and bad/criminal element.parents can do a lot by being good role models and teaching their kids to have respect for other people,property and obeying laws.
 
for a weapon a person must use it for it to be deadly.a gun,knife or any other weapon sitting on a table is harmless until someone uses it.
Bruh. A knife was made to cut, not to take a life. Guns were not made to shoot paper. You not killing 4-7 guys on a drive by with a knife.
 
Bruh. A knife was made to cut, not to take a life. Guns were not made to shoot paper. You not killing 4-7 guys on a drive by with a knife.
your saying a gun or knife operates itself.with your logic guess it's the cars fault you got a speeding ticket.
 
your saying a gun or knife operates itself.with your logic guess it's the cars fault you got a speeding ticket.

You're not making any sense. You called a gun an innocent bystander. The gun has 1 job. To incapacitate. A knife was made to cut and is misused. A car was made to be driven and can be misused as well. What tf else are you supposed to do with a gun? Disassemble it, clean it, assemble it, wait till you feel like cleaning it again? Nah you're right. The atomic bomb was an innocent bystander that Americans just made to have it sit on their table.
 
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Unfortunately, Demetrius does not get it either. The gun does not pull the trigger itself. Education and laws do not change a person. It is what is on the inside of a person... the morals are what determines what a person does. If a person on the inside really knows that we are all created in God's image...love your neighbor as yourself...then the killing, robbery, rape, adultery, having a child out of wedlock, etc. will stop. Think about it...every child would live with his father and have married parents...almost all men in prison did not live or have the love of their father. It starts and continues with the father being a model in the home and him reinforcing what a good citizen or person is about. Crime would then almost completely be eliminated.
Hot ****! An informed and educated poster. Glad to have you in the canes family
 
That's bs look up the stats of convicted killers and see how many came up through the church and had both parents. It's closer to 50-50 than what Fox News would tell you. And for the record I'm Pro Gun

 
OK. Let's say starting tomorrow, all handguns have a fingerprint lock/unlock. Every single one manufactured.

In 90 days, everyone will be sharing "workaround" and even kits to circumvent.

Prices on the current handguns will go up, as most everyone will only buy those, as they're not made any longer. Look up the price of a Colt Python - a firearm that Colt quit making.

If one has basic knowledge, you can take pipe, potassium nitrate, sulphur, and charcoal along with a handful of nails - and have a homemade hand cannon.

You can't outlaw fire because folks get burned - the cat is already out of the sack. Knowledge is out there. CNC machines will build you a 1911, Glock, AR-15, and AR-10 right this minute.

Folks kill or prey on others one way or another if they've made up their mind to do so.

At least those who may be smaller, slower, weaker, or less agile - can defend themselves with an equalizer of sorts - a firearm - and they are used to do just that by good people - every single day.

You have a rabid fox, a crazy pittbull, or coyotes attacking your own animals - you can put a stop to it - and have that right. It's a right -

SOB is drunk or on drugs - kills one or more in a wreck - you outlaw cars? You blame cars? You outlaw cars?

Simple minds don't really think things out - which is exactly why Progressive philosophy is totally retarded. It's one thing to be dumb as ****, but if one keeps their mouth shut - they can be dumb as **** and no one will ever know.
This is exactly why I didn't want to post this. No need for the insults. You have no idea what my political leanings are. I'm just trying too think of a solution. If it can reduce gun violence by 5% is it worth it? Maybe maybe not but let's look for solutions.

You suggest we do nothing. Status quo has worked out great.
 
Unfortunately, Demetrius does not get it either. The gun does not pull the trigger itself. Education and laws do not change a person. It is what is on the inside of a person... the morals are what determines what a person does. If a person on the inside really knows that we are all created in God's image...love your neighbor as yourself...then the killing, robbery, rape, adultery, having a child out of wedlock, etc. will stop. Think about it...every child would live with his father and have married parents...almost all men in prison did not live or have the love of their father. It starts and continues with the father being a model in the home and him reinforcing what a good citizen or person is about. Crime would then almost completely be eliminated.

Wow, I never realized how simple it is.
 
So do absolutely nothing and continue to have the highest gun violence in the civilized world or try new measures that don’t infringe on our civil liberties and see if it can reduce the current rate that it’s at?

@apfenny3 YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY 100% WRONG ABOUT THE US HAVING THE HIGHEST GUN VIOLENCE IN THE CIVILIZED WORLD!
 
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This is exactly why I didn't want to post this. No need for the insults. You have no idea what my political leanings are. I'm just trying too think of a solution. If it can reduce gun violence by 5% is it worth it? Maybe maybe not but let's look for solutions.

You suggest we do nothing. Status quo has worked out great.

I don't care what your political leanings are - I truly don't.

If you want to propose a solution - work it out beginning, middle, and downrange - and see if it fits all three. Snap solutions never work.

And you may wish to refer to my posts - I never suggested we do nothing.

But I don't want to punish and pluck the duck, because he was present when the coyotes got into the pen and killed the chickens.

You want to reduce gun killings by 5% overnight? Start up the public executions. I guarantee a five percent improvement.
 
dammmnit!!!! oh crap, I misspelled dammit! must be the keyboards fault
 
@apfenny3 YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY 100% WRONG ABOUT THE US HAVING THE HIGHEST GUN VIOLENCE IN THE CIVILIZED WORLD!
For first world countries we’re #1. We have a slightly lower rate than Brazil and Mexico but they don’t compare to us economically. We have 15% of the entire worlds gun deaths per year. Regardless of spots on any lists, we have a major problem that’s irrefutable.
 
I don't care what your political leanings are - I truly don't.

If you want to propose a solution - work it out beginning, middle, and downrange - and see if it fits all three. Snap solutions never work.

And you may wish to refer to my posts - I never suggested we do nothing.

But I don't want to punish and pluck the duck, because he was present when the coyotes got into the pen and killed the chickens.

You want to reduce gun killings by 5% overnight? Start up the public executions. I guarantee a five percent improvement.

You mentioned progressive so you went political. Add in the insults at the end it's no wonder why the country is so divided.

All you had to say is that it won't get real results because it's expensive and can easily be bypassed.

Regarding your public executions: that is the other extreme end of the spectrum but I understand the main point of that. However there are many negatives that outweigh the positives for that solution but I can understand the logic.

My original point was that with all the technology in every facet of our lives I'm surprised there hasn't been something that's disrupted the gun industry.
 
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