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[streetja]

Some of you guys act as if there were a line of elite coaches waiting for Fatman to get fired so that they could be hired at Miami.

Coach Richt is only here because this is alma mater. If not for that, he would be coaching Virginia or possibly somewhere else in the SEC (for Christ sakes, no one is worst than Muschamp and he is at South Carolina)

We have been hot garbage for 12/13 years yet some people expected a miracle this year. We were 2 bullshyt calls away from beating UNC and FSU. Notice how we easily destroyed teams that beat them when the refs had no reason to be bias against us, since we were out of contention.

Is Ritch Nick Saban? No! but he sure is a lot better than any other option we had. And listen, I'm a Butch guy, but Butch wasn't going to win here, too many years out of football to be successful in a P5 conference. He will be good for FIU promising 2 and 3 stars the world.

We are one player away from literally owning the ACC ( a Lamar Jackson). Let Ritch recruit and give the blueprint more than 1 year to work. Coach Ritch has proven that he can get elite guys to commit. Those elite guys can change an entire program. Right now we have none on offense.

Jesus the man donated a million ******* dollars to this program. What other coach has done that? At least give the man a recruiting class or two before vomiting diareah out the mouth.

Bless

We could've easily gotten Fuente and for the past 3 years, including this one, he's looked the better coach.

He lost to teams we beat. He has a similar record than us. he came from a lesser conference and doesn't know south Florida. Why would anyone think he would do better than CMR at Miami. And why would anyone believe he would have gotten an IPF approved before even taking the job.

I think results on the field is a better recruiting tool then having a familiarity with the area. And for the past 3 years Fuentes has done a more impressive job on the field than Richt.

Listen, I just threw out Fuentes cause you made it sound like no one was even worth considering aside from Richt. I'm hopeful Richt is the answer, and I think he has all the chance in the world to be great here. He brought along with him a tremendous hire with Manny Diaz, he seems to be flexibile with his play calling, which is a breath of fresh air given the last staff, and we're in a dumpster fire of a conference that is there for the taking year after year.

But I don't have much doubt that Fuentes would have won the coastal this year with Miami like he did with VT. So looking at the two hires objectively for now, Fuentes did the better job.

 

[FIUMCane]

Some of you guys act as if there were a line of elite coaches waiting for Fatman to get fired so that they could be hired at Miami.

Coach Richt is only here because this is alma mater. If not for that, he would be coaching Virginia or possibly somewhere else in the SEC (for Christ sakes, no one is worst than Muschamp and he is at South Carolina)

We have been hot garbage for 12/13 years yet some people expected a miracle this year. We were 2 bullshyt calls away from beating UNC and FSU. Notice how we easily destroyed teams that beat them when the refs had no reason to be bias against us, since we were out of contention.

Is Ritch Nick Saban? No! but he sure is a lot better than any other option we had. And listen, I'm a Butch guy, but Butch wasn't going to win here, too many years out of football to be successful in a P5 conference. He will be good for FIU promising 2 and 3 stars the world.

We are one player away from literally owning the ACC ( a Lamar Jackson). Let Ritch recruit and give the blueprint more than 1 year to work. Coach Ritch has proven that he can get elite guys to commit. Those elite guys can change an entire program. Right now we have none on offense.

Jesus the man donated a million ******* dollars to this program. What other coach has done that? At least give the man a recruiting class or two before vomiting diareah out the mouth.

Bless

We could've easily gotten Fuente and for the past 3 years, including this one, he's looked the better coach.

He lost to teams we beat. He has a similar record than us. he came from a lesser conference and doesn't know south Florida. Why would anyone think he would do better than CMR at Miami. And why would anyone believe he would have gotten an IPF approved before even taking the job.

I think results on the field is a better recruiting tool then having a familiarity with the area. And for the past 3 years Fuentes has done a more impressive job on the field than Richt.

Listen, I just threw out Fuentes cause you made it sound like no one was even worth considering aside from Richt. I'm hopeful Richt is the answer, and I think he has all the chance in the world to be great here. He brought along with him a tremendous hire with Manny Diaz, he seems to be flexibile with his play calling, which is a breath of fresh air given the last staff, and we're in a dumpster fire of a conference that is there for the taking year after year.

But I don't have much doubt that Fuentes would have won the coastal this year with Miami like he did with VT. So looking at the two hires objectively for now, Fuentes did the better job.

You make good points, however, I still think familiarity (in this case) and the fact that Richt coached in the SEC, recruited top NFL projects, and averaged 10 wins a year, holds more weight than Fuentes winning in the American conference.

 

[dstuart4]

I think we're all going to see a big jump next year

So, what you're saying is that the Dallas Cowboys are going to send us their Offensive Line during the off-season?

 

[ThomasM]

The talent was there to win it this year, but our depth was also bad enough to lose a few more. I believe when Richt gets a full roster, we will win the Coastal at least every other year. We are still a thin team.

 

[hoover437]

Some of you guys act as if there were a line of elite coaches waiting for Fatman to get fired so that they could be hired at Miami.

Coach Richt is only here because this is alma mater. If not for that, he would be coaching Virginia or possibly somewhere else in the SEC (for Christ sakes, no one is worst than Muschamp and he is at South Carolina)

We have been hot garbage for 12/13 years yet some people expected a miracle this year. We were 2 bullshyt calls away from beating UNC and FSU. Notice how we easily destroyed teams that beat them when the refs had no reason to be bias against us, since we were out of contention.

Is Ritch Nick Saban? No! but he sure is a lot better than any other option we had. And listen, I'm a Butch guy, but Butch wasn't going to win here, too many years out of football to be successful in a P5 conference. He will be good for FIU promising 2 and 3 stars the world.

We are one player away from literally owning the ACC ( a Lamar Jackson). Let Ritch recruit and give the blueprint more than 1 year to work. Coach Ritch has proven that he can get elite guys to commit. Those elite guys can change an entire program. Right now we have none on offense.

Jesus the man donated a million ******* dollars to this program. What other coach has done that? At least give the man a recruiting class or two before vomiting diareah out the mouth.

Bless

We could've easily gotten Fuente and for the past 3 years, including this one, he's looked the better coach.

Fuente didn't have a complete change in staff. His defensive coordinator stayed and was a huge help! Again, if Richt uses Kaaya to his strengths, I believe we are talking a different story.

 

[GaCane1213]

Ahh....blow it all....let's just fire Richt now and hire Herman....or get Saban

 

[Memnon]

Ahh....blow it all....let's just fire Richt now and hire Herman....or get Saban

*sigh*

I'll call the pilot...

 

[paksat]

meanwhile corch mark richt exceeded the win/loss betting line for vegas with 2 games to go

 

[canesbaby]

We didn't fail we just shouldn't expect to contend for nc on a yearly basis, we should just expect 9-10 wins a year and losing to our rival more than we win

See this is where I have a problem with our fan base. This is the University of effing Miami. Winning the national championship should be the expectation every season. I'm not dumb or naïve enough to think that it's actually going to happen every year but that should be the expectation and what the kids should strive to every day.

 

[BigJoeGrizzly]

Well Alabama has an unlimited budget, an unlimited amount of steroids, HGH and hypodermic needles that Cochran can handle. Unlimited budgets for free Bentleys, Mercedes and free lap dances at Tuscaloosa's version of Scarletts. Nicktator can hire NFL HCs as assts because he needs that kind of assurance. So your point is well taken how can you be expected to compete with that year over year.

If Bama was Miami it would have gotten the death penalty 3 years ago.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

We had an easy schedule this year....I know the Don Bailey Jr crowd is going to bust out with all the re-hashed excuses

"He needs his players"
"Needs more time"
"Kaaya sucks"
"O-line sucks"
"We improved as the season went on" - which I would argue isn't true...we just played easier competition.
And whatever other ******* excuse I overlooked

Bottom line. This team had more talent than most the teams we played against this year. Zero excuse for losing more than 2 games with THAT schedule. I have 2 concerns going forward

-I'm a believer in sample size. Richt's record against ranked opponents contains a big enough sample size to draw analysis from....and it's not good.
-Richt's a terrible play caller. We need a dedicated OC.

I pray to God I'm wrong on this one cause Richt's not going anywhere. I think we can overcome the first point if he does something about the 2nd point...that's my hope at least.

 

[BigJoeGrizzly]

We had an easy schedule this year....I know the Don Bailey Jr crowd is going to bust out with all the re-hashed excuses

"He needs his players"
"Needs more time"
"Kaaya sucks"
"O-line sucks"
"We improved as the season went on" - which I would argue isn't true...we just played easier competition.
And whatever other ****ing excuse I overlooked

Bottom line. This team had more talent than most the teams we played against this year. Zero excuse for losing more than 2 games with THAT schedule. I have 2 concerns going forward

-I'm a believer in sample size. Richt's record against ranked opponents contains a big enough sample size to draw analysis from....and it's not good.
-Richt's a terrible play caller. We need a dedicated OC.

I pray to God I'm wrong on this one cause Richt's not going anywhere. I think we can overcome the first point if he does something about the 2nd point...that's my hope at least.

Let me qualify this I am not trying to be a homer but how do we know we have better talent? Maybe our talent sucks and the coaches got the most out of them? I mean how do you go from 108th in TFL to 1st? In 1 year.

I think Rick was particularly to blame for the ineptitude on offense in that 4 game losing streak. If they do anything next year they must win at Doak and ND at home. Tired of losing to NC too. I don't think anyone can say 8-4 is great (assuming they win out) but horrific OLine play and Kaaya's inability to put 1 foot in front of other also didn't help.

I would like to be the fly on the wall in that Kaaya/Rick post season interview. What does Rick say when Brad says "I think I am entering
The draft coach."

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Yeah, the "we had more talent" thing flies out the window pretty quickly when you step back from the fire-every-coach mentality. It's great that Corn is really good and Richards has an unlimited ceiling and Mark Walton was highly recruited, but when your depth sucks and your o-line is barely functional, having a couple of great players doesn't make the difference.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

We had an easy schedule this year....I know the Don Bailey Jr crowd is going to bust out with all the re-hashed excuses

"He needs his players"
"Needs more time"
"Kaaya sucks"
"O-line sucks"
"We improved as the season went on" - which I would argue isn't true...we just played easier competition.
And whatever other ****ing excuse I overlooked

Bottom line. This team had more talent than most the teams we played against this year. Zero excuse for losing more than 2 games with THAT schedule. I have 2 concerns going forward

-I'm a believer in sample size. Richt's record against ranked opponents contains a big enough sample size to draw analysis from....and it's not good.
-Richt's a terrible play caller. We need a dedicated OC.

I pray to God I'm wrong on this one cause Richt's not going anywhere. I think we can overcome the first point if he does something about the 2nd point...that's my hope at least.

Let me qualify this I am not trying to be a homer but how do we know we have better talent? Maybe our talent sucks and the coaches got the most out of them? I mean how do you go from 108th in TFL to 1st? In 1 year.

I think Rick was particularly to blame for the ineptitude on offense in that 4 game losing streak. If they do anything next year they must win at Doak and ND at home. Tired of losing to NC too. I don't think anyone can say 8-4 is great (assuming they win out) but horrific OLine play and Kaaya's inability to put 1 foot in front of other also didn't help.

I would like to be the fly on the wall in that Kaaya/Rick post season interview. What does Rick say when Brad says "I think I am entering
The draft coach."

My comment about having more talent is a relative statement...it's relative to the teams on our schedule this year. We had no business losing to UNC and this years ND team.....it's absolute garbage. That FSU game was set up perfectly for us as well and we gave it away with Richt's God awful conservative play calling. I swear I was watching a Dave Wannstadt coached team in the second half of that game.

I can forgive and live with the VT loss...it was a short week and a road game at a tough location. However...even in that game his play calling from the outset gave us absolutely NO CHANCE to win that game.

All I'm saying is this...our schedule was easy this year and we still found a way to lose 4 games. Richt's record against ranked opponents gives me cause for concern, especially if he really is ****-bent on continuing to call plays going forward.

For the love of God hire a decicated OC. It will make him a better HEAD COACH by freeing him on to make more high level adjustments on gameday. I can't even stress it enough how bad an idea this is....and to top it off he's not good at calling plays.

 

[Dawgcane]

He averaged 10 wins in the SEC so I expect him to finish around 10 wins each year with a year or two where we have shots at winning the AcC and touching the playoff. We are a few years away from that though. If all the juniors come back next year, there will be no excuse not to win the coastal.

There was no excuse this year.

It is the ACC coastal, there has not been, nor will there be an excuse any year. The division is trash, and any coach that doesn't win it at Miami is also trash.

Well Butch will be ready after going 12-0 his first couple seasons.

 

[TheEye]

We didn't fail we just shouldn't expect to contend for nc on a yearly basis, we should just expect 9-10 wins a year and losing to our rival more than we win

See this is where I have a problem with our fan base. This is the University of effing Miami. Winning the national championship should be the expectation every season. I'm not dumb or naïve enough to think that it's actually going to happen every year but that should be the expectation and what the kids should strive to every day.

That's the definition of entitlement.

 

[TheUuuuu]

We should have been undefeated this year. We could have easily beat Bama, but we went with Richt instead of Butch.

Sincerely,

Cranes Frans

 

[coca cola]

He averaged 10 wins in the SEC so I expect him to finish around 10 wins each year with a year or two where we have shots at winning the AcC and touching the playoff. We are a few years away from that though. If all the juniors come back next year, there will be no excuse not to win the coastal.

There was no excuse this year.

Was there an excuse for Butch to go 5-6 in year 3? Was there an excuse for him to go 0-2 vs ECU? Was there an excuse for Butch to not win the NC in 2000 with the talent he had?

I love these Butch lovers acting like it's bad to win 10 games, when Butch only has done that once in the 10 years he's coached.

 

[coca cola]

Anyway this isn't an entirely illegitimate concern. If he can't get past 9-4 or 10-3 land after 6 or 7 years it'll be time to fire him. But that's still a long time from now. Jimbo lost 4 games in years 1 and 2 at FSU. And that was after he had been with FSU for a while and was almost the defacto head coach for Bowden's final year or 2.

Nobody's arguing Richt was hired to go 8-4 every year but this year wasn't a bad start. Nobody is crowning Richt or claiming that Richt should be the ACC coach of the year.

 

[coca cola]

We should have been undefeated this year. We could have easily beat Bama, but we went with Richt instead of Butch.

Sincerely,

Cranes Frans

All I know is that Butch couldn't go undefeated with the talent of the 2000 team. And that was before conference championship games, the 12th regular season game or the CFB playoff. You only had to go 12-0 back then not 15-0 as you do now.