Clemson. #2 LOL. No

I said auburns defense was talented but horrible the year before. Talented defenses can still get shredded... coaching, youth, etc..

Auburns defense is talented but they sucked last year.
You said that i used one game to judge watson and used his previous year stats to justify his struggles.

So since you went off the previous year i did too just to prove my point home even harder.

It was YOU who brought up the past you dumb fuq. So i used the past to counter your argument. By your logic watson has regressed.

Just quit dude. Youre a joke. Debate skills on zero

I know in this world where Donald Trump insults people and gets support, that you'd think you're a better debater. But just so you know, what you're saying makes zero sense to anyone with the smallest amount of intellectual discipline. I'm mad at myself for wasting my time with you.

Youre in here talking about politics because you clearly dont understand football.

You say i dont make sense and its solely based off of me giving auburn credit for having talented defenders but also implying Deshaun Watson is not a great passer.

How on earth do i not make sense? The tape doesnt lie. We got a veteran qb who just played in the ship and multiple big games shut down against an "improving" Auburn defense.
All that " its an sec. Night game, opening weekend" al golden excuses for a veteran championship caliber qb.sickening.

That td throw to herndon Kaaya made last night. Watson aint bout that life.

Hes a talented athlete. My point is that he is overrated because his passing ability is lacking.
You have yet to actually talk football because its not your forte'. Youre just coqridin Watson so hard youre an oatmeal creampie at this point.

You should be mad at yourself for even challenging me knowing how dumb you were in the first place.

You're right, the film doesn't lie.

[video=youtube;JwaKIYOn9Wc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwaKIYOn9Wc[/video]

You are on an island in the middle of nowhere with your thoughts on Watson.
 
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I said auburns defense was talented but horrible the year before. Talented defenses can still get shredded... coaching, youth, etc..

Auburns defense is talented but they sucked last year.
You said that i used one game to judge watson and used his previous year stats to justify his struggles.

So since you went off the previous year i did too just to prove my point home even harder.

It was YOU who brought up the past you dumb fuq. So i used the past to counter your argument. By your logic watson has regressed.

Just quit dude. Youre a joke. Debate skills on zero

I know in this world where Donald Trump insults people and gets support, that you'd think you're a better debater. But just so you know, what you're saying makes zero sense to anyone with the smallest amount of intellectual discipline. I'm mad at myself for wasting my time with you.

Youre in here talking about politics because you clearly dont understand football.

You say i dont make sense and its solely based off of me giving auburn credit for having talented defenders but also implying Deshaun Watson is not a great passer.

How on earth do i not make sense? The tape doesnt lie. We got a veteran qb who just played in the ship and multiple big games shut down against an "improving" Auburn defense.
All that " its an sec. Night game, opening weekend" al golden excuses for a veteran championship caliber qb.sickening.

That td throw to herndon Kaaya made last night. Watson aint bout that life.

Hes a talented athlete. My point is that he is overrated because his passing ability is lacking.
You have yet to actually talk football because its not your forte'. Youre just coqridin Watson so hard youre an oatmeal creampie at this point.

You should be mad at yourself for even challenging me knowing how dumb you were in the first place.


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I predict Clemson will have a let down this year since they are so hyped up in the pre season like they always have done throughout their history.
 
Yet, not one of smarter football heads have backed you up.... why? Because they know just like i know hes a "high potential" qb and a tad overrated.
[MENTION=1396]blackvern[/MENTION] who didnt watch the ship? So he went from cooking a champion ship defense to struggling hard against auburn? So he regressed?

Yall crazy man.
 
Some of you guys are nuts. Clemson goes on the road in a tough environment to open the season and you guys start throwing darts because they pulled out a tough win. All the while you shake your Pom Poms for the Canes who played a glorified high school team.

Watson is a better QB than Brad and Brad is pretty darn good. Watson had a really nice throw dropped for a TD also. His receivers weren't perfect out there. Auburns defense played hard and fast. I can remember the 2001 team struggling in a couple of road games also.
 
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Lights Bama up and you think Auburn "exposed" him? That's not how it works. It's the first game of the season. Everybody is rusty
 
**** Bro. Going in hard there. It was the 1st game man. Hard to assess right now. I don't know why he gets more live than Kaaya from NFL analyst, but how many times have they really gotten it right?!. Can't hate on this kid though but Kaaya is a way better Pro prospect
 
Lights Bama up and you think Auburn "exposed" him? That's not how it works. It's the first game of the season. Everybody is rusty

Yall make more excuses than a motherfuqqer man.

Oh my god. How come Bama, playing a true freshman qb and rb didnt struggle in their opener?

Didnt see UNC struggle that much with a new qb either. ****, ND qb wasnt rusty AT Texas.

Yall are truly Goldenized with all these lame *** excuses. There is no excuse for a Watson led offense to score 19 points. Unless of course he is overrated and got slightly exposed when forced to sit in the pocket.

Kaaya doesnt get half of these excuses. Good lord. Lil goldenites everywhere. Yall make me sick
 
Watson is great college player. Anyone who hates on that is insane. His actual game does not translate well to the NFL based on what we've seen to date. Most of his throws are screens or verts. There do not have a passing tree in the Clemson Offense. He will need a lot of work on his drops and just understand pro style passing concepts.

His intangibles do translate to the NFL and by most accounts at an extremely high level. this is all from 3rd parties but if true; natural leader, hard worker, dynamic play maker, humble, and highly motivated. Someone will have to take a chance on his talent.

Is his ceiling higher than Kaaya in the short term NFL career yes. But as we saw with Elway, if a QB plans to have a long HOF NFL career he has to learn to play the game from the pocket. Because that is where you are protected.
 
Watson is great college player. Anyone who hates on that is insane. His actual game does not translate well to the NFL based on what we've seen to date. Most of his throws are screens or verts. There do not have a passing tree in the Clemson Offense. He will need a lot of work on his drops and just understand pro style passing concepts.

His intangibles do translate to the NFL and by most accounts at an extremely high level. this is all from 3rd parties but if true; natural leader, hard worker, dynamic play maker, humble, and highly motivated. Someone will have to take a chance on his talent.

Is his ceiling higher than Kaaya in the short term NFL career yes. But as we saw with Elway, if a QB plans to have a long HOF NFL career he has to learn to play the game from the pocket. Because that is where you are protected.

This is spot on. Best post yet. Thank you.

Im not saying the guy sucks or he wont ever be a good passer. But he has a lot to work to do.
 
Lights Bama up and you think Auburn "exposed" him? That's not how it works. It's the first game of the season. Everybody is rusty

Yall make more excuses than a motherfuqqer man.

Oh my god. How come Bama, playing a true freshman qb and rb didnt struggle in their opener?

Didnt see UNC struggle that much with a new qb either. ****, ND qb wasnt rusty AT Texas.

Yall are truly Goldenized with all these lame *** excuses. There is no excuse for a Watson led offense to score 19 points. Unless of course he is overrated and got slightly exposed when forced to sit in the pocket.

Kaaya doesnt get half of these excuses. Good lord. Lil goldenites everywhere. Yall make me sick
Yeah go ahead, all those QB's are better than Watson after one game. Just come back and completely change your opinion after they struggle. You overreact like a twelve year old girl
 
Lights Bama up and you think Auburn "exposed" him? That's not how it works. It's the first game of the season. Everybody is rusty

Yall make more excuses than a motherfuqqer man.

Oh my god. How come Bama, playing a true freshman qb and rb didnt struggle in their opener?

Didnt see UNC struggle that much with a new qb either. ****, ND qb wasnt rusty AT Texas.

Yall are truly Goldenized with all these lame *** excuses. There is no excuse for a Watson led offense to score 19 points. Unless of course he is overrated and got slightly exposed when forced to sit in the pocket.

Kaaya doesnt get half of these excuses. Good lord. Lil goldenites everywhere. Yall make me sick
Yeah go ahead, all those QB's are better than Watson after one game. Just come back and completely change your opinion after they struggle. You overreact like a twelve year old girl

Who is overreacting? I said the same thing last year. Watson needs to improve in his passing and he is overrated.

I never said any of those guys were better. Just eliminating the weak *** excuses you guys are using to defend his lack of ability.

Youre an idiot. You cant read and youre jumping into a debate that you dont know the full context of. You dumb ***.

Go to sleep
 
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Lights Bama up and you think Auburn "exposed" him? That's not how it works. It's the first game of the season. Everybody is rusty

Yall make more excuses than a motherfuqqer man.

Oh my god. How come Bama, playing a true freshman qb and rb didnt struggle in their opener?

Didnt see UNC struggle that much with a new qb either. ****, ND qb wasnt rusty AT Texas.

Yall are truly Goldenized with all these lame *** excuses. There is no excuse for a Watson led offense to score 19 points. Unless of course he is overrated and got slightly exposed when forced to sit in the pocket.

Kaaya doesnt get half of these excuses. Good lord. Lil goldenites everywhere. Yall make me sick
Yeah go ahead, all those QB's are better than Watson after one game. Just come back and completely change your opinion after they struggle. You overreact like a twelve year old girl

Who is overreacting? I said the same thing last year. Watson needs to improve in his passing and he is overrated.

I never said any of those guys were better. Just eliminating the weak *** excuses you guys are using to defend his lack of ability.

Youre an idiot. You cant read and youre jumping into a debate that you dont know the full context of. You dumb ***.

Go to sleep
There's no debate. Watson is one of the best players in college football and you're a moron starting stupid threads. Man, was dominate in the national championship game and you're talking about week one? Lol
 
Some of you guys are nuts. Clemson goes on the road in a tough environment to open the season and you guys start throwing darts because they pulled out a tough win. All the while you shake your Pom Poms for the Canes who played a glorified high school team.

Watson is a better QB than Brad and Brad is pretty darn good. Watson had a really nice throw dropped for a TD also. His receivers weren't perfect out there. Auburns defense hard and fast. I can remember the 2001 team struggling in a couple of road games also.

Well no. Watson has a much better supporting cast (in terms of depth if nothing else). Put Kayaa on Clem's squad and you see some ****.
 
Ridiculous thread, especially since we shouldn't be talking **** about a team that not only went in dry last year in Miami but did us a favor and forced the admin's hand into firing Golden. Plus we have our own team to worry about....
 
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