Clear this up or confirm it for me.

[Artist Formerly Known As]

Im quite sure Arnada can adjust his scheme to fit his players skills set whether its 4-3 or 3-4

If he's a good, smart coach (which he appears to be), he can and should. People brought up Belicheck for being a master of the 3-4 in the NFL and being so successful, but he's switched between base 3-4 and 4-3 multiple times during his tenure based on the type of talent he had.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

4-3 works better with florida athletes. it just does. u can get lbs that are 210-220 let them run to ball. u can get de's at 250. dts at 290. in a 3-4 base u need lbs inside at 250 u need dts taht go 310 or bigger. de's at 280. thats not just a 2 gap but 1 gap also.

4-3 allows for smaller faster players to excel. 1 gap vs 2 gap is a diffrent argument then 3-4vs 4-3 u can run 2 gap in 4-3 and 3-4 or 1 gap also but to me a 4-3 penatrating d is best for south florida athletes its what they play in hs. and its easy to learn.\

nothing against aranada or any dc richt hires. i trust richt to get the guy he wants. that said wisconsin athletes vs florida athletes is nite and day. some guys are better fits for certain area's

narduzzi did well at pitt cause his mich st d fits the players from ohio, pennsylvania area. miami should get a guy from sec used to southern athletes.

Oh baloney. The size requirements are based on gap responsibility. You need bigger, stouter kids because they are responsible for 2-gaps. You most certainly can run 3-4 with 1-gap responsibility. If AQM is in a 9-technique the difference between 4-3 and 3-4 is the former he has his hands in the dirt and the latter he's standing. You don't think he can play either way at 250 pounds?

Louisville is running 3-4 and James Burgess is an animal in that defense. He weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of 215 pounds. There are plenty of kids who can play in either defense from South Florida. Ed Stinson was a defensive end, weighed about 235 pounds, goes to Alabama, puts on 50 pounds and plays defensive end in their 3-4.

I'll stay on message. Narduzzi's defense would do well at Miami. Aranda's defense would do well at Miami. Again, find competent coaching, flexible and adaptable and creative.

 

[Dirty Sprite]

Lol guys on this board running like a chicken with their heads cut off begging for all kind of stupid shh.... Golden got these dudes shook up and they don't even realize it smh

 

[Rellyrell]

The 34 is a very successful defense. Is a branch of the most attacking defense known to man, which is the 46. The Ravens implored a 34 that ran like a 46 which is attack, confuse, attack. The 34 can be flexed in so many ways, where it can look like a 43, 335, 46, or a traditional 34. What we ran was a passive, assignment 34 which hindered a playmakers natural instincts.

Arandas 34 runs much like ****y's L 34 which is bring blitz from all areas. It confuses O's b/c the blitz formation could look like it's coming from the same area, then it comes from a different place all together. It's hard for QBs to make protection audibles b/c it's hard to decipher where the blitz is coming from.

All in all, I love 43 defenses, but 34s are equally successful. We can't confuse Golden's/Groh's 34 with Arandas 34....they're literally night and day, schemes are not even close in comparison

 

[kalinis]

4-3 works better with florida athletes. it just does. u can get lbs that are 210-220 let them run to ball. u can get de's at 250. dts at 290. in a 3-4 base u need lbs inside at 250 u need dts taht go 310 or bigger. de's at 280. thats not just a 2 gap but 1 gap also.

4-3 allows for smaller faster players to excel. 1 gap vs 2 gap is a diffrent argument then 3-4vs 4-3 u can run 2 gap in 4-3 and 3-4 or 1 gap also but to me a 4-3 penatrating d is best for south florida athletes its what they play in hs. and its easy to learn.\

nothing against aranada or any dc richt hires. i trust richt to get the guy he wants. that said wisconsin athletes vs florida athletes is nite and day. some guys are better fits for certain area's

narduzzi did well at pitt cause his mich st d fits the players from ohio, pennsylvania area. miami should get a guy from sec used to southern athletes.

Do you even read the site?????

You must have an IQ of 20.......how many times does it need to be explained that Aranda's defense uses smaller players than a typical 3-4???? His ILBs are 230 and 220. He has NO DL bigger than 300 lbs. One is 300, another is 280, and the third is 260.

And finally, NARDUZZIS DEFENSE IS THE MIAMI DEFENSE. for fvcks sake we need an IQ test on signup.

i read that. and? with south florida's speed a 4-3 d fits best. u are just saying this **** cause u want aranada. wisconsin is never gonna get the kind of speed miami gets. never.

miami will always be able to play a basic penatrating d with speed that doesnt' require much scheme because of talent. i read the whole **** thread and others. just because it doesn't require 400 lb dt's doesn't mean it is meant for south florida kids.

plus no way they hire aranada. richt is gonna hire some sec 4-3 based coach. i could be wrong but i doubt it. i watch the denver broncos they are my fav team. they have at biggest dl guy a 310 nt. the rest of there dl goes 300 or lower. so ? wade phillips also runs a 1 gap 3-4 but doesn't mean that scheme fits miami athletes.

i will say i did love what orlando did for houston to fsu today though. im not sayign aranada is a bad dc, just he may not be a good fit at miami.

that said orlando won game with scheme and fsu was just outcoached. tom herman himself said couldn't hold up mano a mano and fsu never did run well up the middle. they never really tried either.

 

[kalinis]

i want to clear something up. im not against a 3-4 1 gap d. im not anti aranda. if miami hires him ill be excited and happy. i don't see it happening. i don't think he leaves wisconsin. he had a chance to last year and didn't

i think south florida is made for a 4-3 where lb's flow to ball. i think a 3-4 1 gap would work with right coach. that said if u go small on dl with a 3-4 u can be run on and u can wear down.

im not saying aranda is a bad dc , or 3-4 1 gap is a bad scheme. not at all. im just saying that i think richt hires a 4-3 coach that a 4-3 is easier to sell to south florida kids who play it in hs and that the talent in south florida is tailor made for a 4-3 thats it.

 

[DLINKDAGR8]

Spread offenses are designed to dictate numbers in the box and get linebackers off the field... So all the. Exotic looking LB blitzes kinda lose punch. As opposed being able to keep your front intact with 4 ...

Gary Patterson plays an odd front

Proof?

Cuz this, to my knowledge, is false AF.

He goes in and out of both but it DOESN'T FREAKING MATTER.

That right there is a 30 front and the only difference is the weak side LB is standing instead of in a stance

Hey how do you make screen shots like that. I be wanting to make screens to show where kayaa should be putting the ball to receivers on a few throws. The kid missed about 10 td's this year cause the boys had to wait on the ball lol. Some people think I'm bashing him but I'm not.

Sorry for derailing the thread, carry on!

 

[DLINKDAGR8]

Im partial to 34 period at this level because of physical maturity, complexity and lack of free agency

I believe if Al and D'no knew how to "adjust" and made the defense simple for the boys we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Yet he never learned to adjust in 5 years.

So we're having this conversation. I will say with Al beefing up the troops I believe the physical maturity is there. With Al gone I believe there's a new sense of urgency and a determination to succeed. With the right coach we can run any defense we want and be relentless!

Aranda is the goods my friend!

 

[DLINKDAGR8]

Next ****got that compares a 3-4 NFL defense to what a college can do im gonna punch you in the face through this screen

This

Alot of people are using NFL examples for some reason and I'm not sure why. I'm not questioning aggressiveness or passiveness. If you start to look at it on a college level, what are the recruiting bases for the teams that run it well? Nick Saban gets brought up alot. He hasn't had a south Florida front 7 commit since he got to Alabama. When you look at Stanford do we recruit from the same pool that they do? We know Wisconsin isn't getting the same type of player. Why ask your recruiting base to play in a defense that doesn't fit what they've done?

and this.

SFL athletes just don't fit the prototypes for 3-4. How many SFL HS play 3-4? It's nothing against the scheme. I actually like the 3-4 better in the NFL, but they also have the luxury of selecting from a more matured, larger, more athletic, non-regionalized talent pool.

You do know everybody on the team isn't from from south florida right... **** since yall wanna take nfl coaches out for comparison how about taking s fl out of the equation since majority of the defense is/was from other parts of the country.

Point is don't matter your where you from height or size if you can play they will find a spot for you and let your talent speak for itself...

Owens, jenkins, willis, muhammad, trent harris, juwon young, corn elder, rashawn jenkins, norton, shaq, pinkney, Michael jackson etc... isn't from "sfla" but damnit they can contribute in any scheme if "coached" properly

 

[DuffleBagYoda]

Al put bad weight on guys...

Also (over)simplifying the 34 imo negates its advantages