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Clarification on how Canes can play in OB

Leaf said:
Miami wouldn’t be ranked, even at 8-4. For God’s sake, we’d have 3 losses to unranked teams, including a GT team that’ll probably finish 1-10 vs everybody else. And we probably wouldn’t have a win vs anybody that even finishes in also receiving votes.

The only hope for the Orange Bowl is that Clemson makes the playoffs, everybody in the ACC except Clemson finishes unranked, and the Orange Bowl decides that since every option is bad they might as well take the local team.
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Why do people here hate math? Look at this link: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-college-football-predictions/


That is the current CFP ranking. There are a lot of ****** teams in the top 30 now. If Miaimi wins out there is a strong chance they are in the top 25 of the CFP. Just plug in the next two games of the 5 teams ahead of them and the teams below them. It is a computer poll, so losing 4 games very close is helpful. Losing to Florida close is helpful.
 
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I find it very unlikely that the OB committee would pick Miami over ND. Theyre like Alabama in respect to getting benefit of the doubt in ranking.
 
No one else in the ACC deserves the game at this point either and we have wins over Pitt, UVA and Lville, 3 of the top 5-6 teams in the conference, plus ratings and attendance wise it’s the best matchup the OB can hope for considering how bad the conference is.

The Gtech loss was awful of course but keep in mind it’s a good chance 10
of the 12 teams on our schedule go to bowls this year, not an elite schedule at the top but a lot tougher than it looked to start the year... and anyone that thinks an OB berth is bad should log off immediately, you think these kids care that we don’t “deserve” it? **** no, that’s a win for recruiting regardless of outcome.
 
scrantoncane said:
I don't think the sample size is large enough to say that "most" recruits sign in December - last year was the first year for that. It was a novelty. I think the early signing period is more for fringe players, where the team says "prove it and sign now or we open your spot."

The big fish will have their spot held for them, and have no incentive to sign early. Why not wait and make sure your OC/DC/primary recruiter doesn't bolt after the bowl game to take a new job?

Makes no sense for the player to sign early, so long as he has the leverage to keep his spot held open.
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The trends are clearly showing that ESD is not a novelty or for fringe players

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National Signing Day ain't what it used to be. Here's why

National Signing Day for Michigan and Michigan State isn't what it used to be. It's the same around the country. The hot new signing day is December.
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"According to CBS Sports, roughly 80 percent of prospects who committed entering the early signing period signed their National Letters of Intent. Among the expected number of all FBS signees, 65 percent signed in December.

The split is more pronounced with the highest-rated recruits.

Out of the top 250 players in the nation, per the 247Sports Composite rankings, just 35 remain unsigned and 11 are uncommitted."
 
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Mr. Crabs Cane said:
The trends are clearly showing that ESD is not a novelty or for fringe players

www.freep.com

National Signing Day ain't what it used to be. Here's why

National Signing Day for Michigan and Michigan State isn't what it used to be. It's the same around the country. The hot new signing day is December.
www.freep.com

"According to CBS Sports, roughly 80 percent of prospects who committed entering the early signing period signed their National Letters of Intent. Among the expected number of all FBS signees, 65 percent signed in December.

The split is more pronounced with the highest-rated recruits.

Out of the top 250 players in the nation, per the 247Sports Composite rankings, just 35 remain unsigned and 11 are uncommitted."
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Was about to post this, a very high percentage signed in December the first year and it went even higher the next. Most recruits want to get it over with and stop the constant calls, texts, etc. All the ESPN shows and media coverage has moved to Dec and you hardly notice anything going on in February anymore
 
duke4heisman said:
Was about to post this, a very high percentage signed in December the first year and it went even higher the next. Most recruits want to get it over with and stop the constant calls, texts, etc. All the ESPN shows and media coverage has moved to Dec and you hardly notice anything going on in February anymore
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They also know if they don’t come in December they’re already starting behind everyone who did.
 
JD08 said:
I find it very unlikely that the OB committee would pick Miami over ND. Theyre like Alabama in respect to getting benefit of the doubt in ranking.
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They can’t pick ND. It has to be one ACC team. ND can only be the opponent
 
Someone from the ACC has to go to the Orange Bowl. Obviously assume Clemson goes to the playoff. So they *HAVE* to take the next highest ranked team. Problem is, there will probably not be a ranked team at the end of the year. Notice I said probably. It's not definite. But the candidates are:

Wake Forest -- 7-2, playing Clemson this week
Virginia -- 7-3, most likely playing Clemson in Charlotte
VT -- 6-3, will lose a 4th game at least either to UVA or Clemson if they win the Coastal
Louisville -- 5-4.....no
Pitt -- 6-3, still has 3 toss-up games left, and if somehow they get to Charlotte, they'll get another loss as well


Miami -- 6-4....2 winnable games left to finish 8-4....no loss by more than 1 score. Local to the OB, will fill the stadium (or at least more than most of the teams above would).

I think there's a good shot Miami gets the OB with 2 big wins over FIU and Duke. Let's win em both by 20+ (well, FIU by 40+) and see what happens.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Someone from the ACC has to go to the Orange Bowl. Obviously assume Clemson goes to the playoff. So they *HAVE* to take the next highest ranked team. Problem is, there will probably not be a ranked team at the end of the year. Notice I said probably. It's not definite. But the candidates are:

Wake Forest -- 7-2, playing Clemson this week
Virginia -- 7-3, most likely playing Clemson in Charlotte
VT -- 6-3, will lose a 4th game at least either to UVA or Clemson if they win the Coastal
Louisville -- 5-4.....no
Pitt -- 6-3, still has 3 toss-up games left, and if somehow they get to Charlotte, they'll get another loss as well


Miami -- 6-4....2 winnable games left to finish 8-4....no loss by more than 1 score. Local to the OB, will fill the stadium (or at least more than most of the teams above would).

I think there's a good shot Miami gets the OB with 2 big wins over FIU and Duke. Let's win em both by 20+ (well, FIU by 40+) and see what happens.
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Who do you think gets into the OB between a 3 loss WF team, 4 loss UVA team that makes it to the ACCCG and a 4 loss Miami team?

That's a very realistic scenario. The other being VT riding this hot streak that they're on and winning out before losing to Clemson. And therefore undoubtedly getting the OB bid.
 
streetja said:
Who do you think gets into the OB between a 3 loss WF team, 4 loss UVA team that makes it to the ACCCG and a 4 loss Miami team?

That's a very realistic scenario. The other being VT riding this hot streak that they're on and winning out before losing to Clemson. And therefore undoubtedly getting the OB bid.
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I would imagine Miami just due to the geographical relevance.

Wake Forest has one of the smallest enrollments in the FBS. I'd imagine the OB committee will do everything they possibly can to keep them out of the game. It'll be someone from the Coastal, IMO.
 
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