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supacane said:
Been saying it. Get this idea that our grandfathers college football exist. Forget NIL, the big tv money is where the players money should come from. Now u solved the transferring whenever u feel like it or being enticed by other schools

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If you do revenue sharing, title 9 kicks in, thus everyone has to get paid…you can’t get rid of NIL. It’s 3rd party. Pate is wrong in saying that it would change NIL, especially when we know SEC schools are still paying cash under the table. If there’s a way to cheat, it will be done.
 
bandhammer said:
If you do revenue sharing, title 9 kicks in, thus everyone has to get paid…you can’t get rid of NIL. It’s 3rd party. Pate is wrong in saying that it would change NIL, especially when we know SEC schools are still paying cash under the table. If there’s a way to cheat, it will be done.
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No it would changr NIL in the fact it couldnt be used to entice a kid to another school. U would just be getting it based on your value to whoeever is sponsoring you. If that makes sense
 
supacane said:
No it would changr NIL in the fact it couldnt be used to entice a kid to another school. U would just be getting it based on your value to whoeever is sponsoring you. If that makes sense
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It’s 3rd party. NIL has nothing to do with the university or the NCAA. John Ruiz can hire Jeremiah Smith to do anything for his company that he wants and pay him anything he wants. The change was a Supreme Court ruling. There’s not a thing anyone can do about it.
 
bandhammer said:
It’s 3rd party. NIL has nothing to do with the university or the NCAA. John Ruiz can hire Jeremiah Smith to do anything for his company that he wants and pay him anything he wants. The change was a Supreme Court ruling. There’s not a thing anyone can do about it.
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Papa, you are missing the point. The schools paying the players from the tv money doesnt affect NIL, it simply stop NIL being used to entice people to transfer if u are contractly obligated to the school. Not sure what you are not getting. NLI comes with money and a set length of time, whether 3 or 4 years. Every athlete gets money separate from NIL. So now a BMW dealership in Louisiana cant entice a kid in Miami with a NIL to transfer. They can still offer a NIL but there is no possibility of transferring
 
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Turn scholarships into contracts and turn student-athletes into employees. One of their employment benefits is free education, medical insurance, room, and board, training table, etc. Salary based on performance and the economy. Collective bargaining. Yes. this might require using this model for all scholarship sports, but so be it. I don’t know if you have to pay a college football player the same as a women’s volleyball player. Employees in one department make more money than employees in another department.

College athletes are professional athletes, despite what anyone says.
 
Major players are too greedy to ever let something so sensible and well thought out happen.
 
bandhammer said:
It’s 3rd party. NIL has nothing to do with the university or the NCAA. John Ruiz can hire Jeremiah Smith to do anything for his company that he wants and pay him anything he wants. The change was a Supreme Court ruling. There’s not a thing anyone can do about it.
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Theoretically, sure... but you don't think those SEC schools are working behind the scenes with these benefactors?
 
@supacane and @bandhammer
You are both correct. If athletes were being paid in some manner other than NIL, this could reduce the impact of NIL in that it would not be the sole income source. However, nothing can be done to stop NIL and companies paying athletes for marketing services.
I think non-NIL income would be a good thing and probably level the playing field a bit, but because NIL is legal, nothing will ever be equal. Not that it ever was.
 
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AtlAtty said:
@supacane and @bandhammer
You are both correct. If athletes were being paid in some manner other than NIL, this could reduce the impact of NIL in that it would not be the sole income source. However, nothing can be done to stop NIL and companies paying athletes for marketing services.
I think non-NIL income would be a good thing and probably level the playing field a bit, but because NIL is legal, nothing will ever be equal. Not that it ever was.
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Yeah but what im saying is its not about stopping NIL, its to stop the random transfers because of NIL. Ruiz sponsored bunch of athletes that are not in Miami or even in Florida like Gabe Taylor. Thats how it supposed to be. U not gonna be able to stop it used that way for high school recruiting but the random transfers is not fair to the institutions. U have to atleast have any idea of who u will definitely have next year and who u may not. Recruiting a whole roster annually is madness.
 
supacane said:
Papa, you are missing the point. The schools paying the players from the tv money doesnt affect NIL, it simply stop NIL being used to entice people to transfer if u are contractly obligated to the school. Not sure what you are not getting. NLI comes with money and a set length of time, whether 3 or 4 years. Every athlete gets money separate from NIL. So now a BMW dealership in Louisiana cant entice a kid in Miami with a NIL to transfer. They can still offer a NIL but there is no possibility of transferring
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I understand that but you’re not going to agree to a contract when players have the ability to go elsewhere and get more money. You think Caleb Williams Is going to agree to a contract with a university to get paid the same as some chick on the women’s rowing team when John Ruiz can fork over millions to him?
 
Trav said:
Theoretically, sure... but you don't think those SEC schools are working behind the scenes with these benefactors?
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Of course they are, and that’s why those schools are going to continue to get the best players. They had NIL before NIL. Now they will have 3-4 NIL’s lol
 
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bandhammer said:
I understand that but you’re not going to agree to a contract when players have the ability to go elsewhere and get more money. You think Caleb Williams Is going to agree to a contract with a university to get paid the same as some chick on the women’s rowing team when John Ruiz can fork over millions to him?
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U getn a contract whereever u go. Its for the whole nation.
 
bandhammer said:
If you do revenue sharing, title 9 kicks in, thus everyone has to get paid…you can’t get rid of NIL. It’s 3rd party. Pate is wrong in saying that it would change NIL, especially when we know SEC schools are still paying cash under the table. If there’s a way to cheat, it will be done.
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10000%. A rare miss by Pate here.
 
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BoxingRobes said:
Its a bad idea.

Title IX.
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The only way around this is having a separate governing body. If you aren’t NCAA affiliated it could change that. But legally speaking they still may have some recourse bc it would still be affiliated with the school? Does a new governing body negate Title 9? Lawyers help me out with this one.
 
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