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[Jaromir Jagr]

jagr does the same **** on the baseball board he talks ****, stirs the pot, always against Miami and beats a dead horse. i swear him and bleakvern were separated at birth. its his modus operandi. just calling it as it is.

So I have one guy calling me a Richt slurper and another guy saying I'm always against Miami. Only on CIS.

 

[Loose Cannon]

Now I get it. The rankings mean nothing right now because you know how things will play out. Why didn't you just say that in the beginning. It would have saved us 16 pages because nobody can possibly argue with that.

The rankings DON'T mean anything right now. Only a novice football fan would argue that they do.

No. Only a novice would think that these rankings aren't a starting point, or that everything will be thrown out next Tuesday and the committee will just give everyone a clean slate next week. We are 10th. We have to get to 4th. We cannot do that with our remaining 5 games without things happening that are outside of our control. This is not supposed to be the case.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Then refute his argument. Explain how the 4 of the one loss teams and 2 of the undefeated teams currently ranked ahead of us don't have to have 2 losses for us jump them if both ND and VTech lose out and end up 8-4.Explain how we jump a 1 loss, Bama, UGA, OSU, Oklahoma, TCU, and Penn State, if our best wins manage to go 8-4. Now assume Clemson beats NC State, but loses to FSU, and NC State at 10-2 gets to the ACCCG. We beat them and our best win is a 10-3 team ranked mid teens?

We need to win out, have ND and VT win out, have Clemson beat NC State and FSU and not **** the bed against The Citadel like they did against Syracuse, beat Clemson, and have 2 of the teams ahead of us get to 2 losses.

All of these are likely, but not guaranteed. That's the problem with an undefeated P5 team opening the CFP rankings at 10. We absolutely should be able to run the table and be in without help, but that is not the case.

Refute his argument? Sure. If we beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 3[/URL] Virginia Tech, #3 Notre Dame, and [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=4]#4 [/URL] Clemson, we will move up to [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] with the most impressive final five weeks in the country.

Typical nonsense.

If we beat those three teams, they will all be ranked lower. Again, as I have ALWAYS pointed out, we would need all three of those teams to continue winning (besides when we beat them) for those victories to be as impressive as they could be. So, again, something that is OUT OF OUR CONTROL.

Next...

Georgia has a chance to beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 4[/URL] Auburn and #2 Alabama.
Alabama has a chance to beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 4[/URL] Auburn, [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 9[/URL] LSU, and #1 Georgia.
Notre Dame has a chance to beat #1 0 Miami and #2 1 Stanford.
Clemson has a chance to beat #2 9 NC State and (presumably) #1 0 Miami.
Oklahoma has a chance to beat #1 1 OK State and #8 TCU, plus somebody good in the Big 12 championship.
Ohio State has a chance to beat #2 4 Michigan State and (if Ped State falters) somebody good in the Big 10 championship, likely #9 Wisconsin.
Ped State has a chance to beat #2 4 Michigan State and somebody good in the Big 10 championship, likely #9 Wisconsin.
TCU has a chance to beat #5 Oklahoma, plus somebody good in the Big 12 championship.
Wisconsin has a chance to beat either #6 Ohio State or #7 Ped State in the Big 10 championship.
Oklahoma State has a chance to beat #5 Oklahoma, #1 5 Iowa State, plus somebody good in the Big 12 championship.
Washington has a chance to beat #2 2 Stanford, #2 5 Washington State, and either #1 7 USC or #2 2 Arizona in the Pac 12 championship.
Virginia Tech has a chance to beat #1 0 Miami and a good team in the ACC-CG, likely #4 Clemson or #2 0 NC State.

Plenty of teams have plenty of opportunities for "quality wins". And we have no guarantee that our quality wins will be "as high of a quality" by the end of the year if those teams lose more games (as with the win over loss-happy F$U). And we have no guarantee that we will be playing Clemson. Clemson does not even CURRENTLY lead the Atlantic Division, NC State does. Finally, we have no guarantee that WINNING those games will produce the desired impression, as we could ONCE AGAIN be criticized for winning by small margins.

So, in reality, your "just win" approach is about as full of crap as...well, you get the picture.

As you can see, there is a TON of stuff that is out of our control. Winning does not guarantee us a Final Four spot. It just...doesn't...

Genius, if Notre Dame OR Virginia Tech OR Clemson beats Miami, we are out and none of this matters. That's how poorly you're doing here.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Now I get it. The rankings mean nothing right now because you know how things will play out. Why didn't you just say that in the beginning. It would have saved us 16 pages because nobody can possibly argue with that.

The rankings DON'T mean anything right now. Only a novice football fan would argue that they do.

No. Only a novice would think that these rankings aren't a starting point, or that everything will be thrown out next Tuesday and the committee will just give everyone a clean slate next week. We are 10th. We have to get to 4th. We cannot do that with our remaining 5 games without things happening that are outside of our control. This is not supposed to be the case.

If we win out, we are #2 . Feel free to prove me wrong with historical evidence.

 

[Loose Cannon]

No. The argument is that the committee already thinks Miami is not a better team than 6 SIX SEIS teams.

The committee already thinks that Miami is not better than NINE teams. We are #10 .

Two unimpressive wins against teams that don't finish the season impressively is not going to change their mind. The argument remains that Miami must win out, have ND and VT win out, Clemson run the table to get to the ACCCG, and at least two of the teams ahead of us get to two losses. If any of those do not happen, Miami is out. All of those have to play out for us to get in.

And that argument is terrible. If we beat VT, ND, and Clemson, and don't crap the bed against Pitt or UVA, we are in. We would be the #2 team in that scenario, while you idiots think we will be #6 .

Meant to say 6 one loss teams. Each of which have just as impressive and important chances to impress the committee ahead of them. Face it. When you're 10th and the committee has already established that there are 6 one loss teams better than you, you're going to have a few of those 6 lose. If Miami winning was enough, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Here's their argument: "If we go 12-0, we will get left out if Virginia Tech and Notre Dame combine to go 0-5 to end the season."

And people wonder why this board is such a mess.

Uh, no, that's not the argument.

That's only the argument if a very dumb person tries to summarize what has been said before.

I'm glad that, say, MIAMI has never, say, lost 3 more games after losing a close game. That just NEVER happens.

And to say that Virginia Tech can't lose to, say, Georgia Tech or Virginia on the road? As if that could NEVER happen? Ridiculous. If Miami beats #13 VaTech, they will move DOWN the CFP rankings. With another loss to Georgia Tech or Virginia, VaTech could EASILY be out of the rankings.

And, sure, #3 Notre Dame looks formidable. But a loss to Miami moves them down. And then let's not pretend like the game at Stanford on the road is a gimme. If Stanford beats Notre Dame, ND is likely outside the CFP Top 15.

And then it's entirely possible that NC State is who we face in the ACC-CG. They are currently #20 and in first place in the Atlantic, and while beating Clemson would move them up, losing to Miami will move them down.

So it's possible that, AT THE END OF THE SEASON, Miami might not have a win against a CFP Top 15 team. It's not that VaTech and Notre Dame have to go winless the rest of the way, but if they don't "win out" after losing to Miami, they will CERTAINLY not be as impressive of wins as they LOOK LIKE today. Not to mention if NC State wins the Atlantic.

I realize this stuff is probably too complex for you, but I believe in educating the learning disabled.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

These dudes think this is going to be the one year - ever - when three one-loss teams finish ahead of an undefeated major conference team. Like, literally, the first time ever.

 

[Loose Cannon]

Then refute his argument. Explain how the 4 of the one loss teams and 2 of the undefeated teams currently ranked ahead of us don't have to have 2 losses for us jump them if both ND and VTech lose out and end up 8-4.Explain how we jump a 1 loss, Bama, UGA, OSU, Oklahoma, TCU, and Penn State, if our best wins manage to go 8-4. Now assume Clemson beats NC State, but loses to FSU, and NC State at 10-2 gets to the ACCCG. We beat them and our best win is a 10-3 team ranked mid teens?

We need to win out, have ND and VT win out, have Clemson beat NC State and FSU and not **** the bed against The Citadel like they did against Syracuse, beat Clemson, and have 2 of the teams ahead of us get to 2 losses.

All of these are likely, but not guaranteed. That's the problem with an undefeated P5 team opening the CFP rankings at 10. We absolutely should be able to run the table and be in without help, but that is not the case.

Refute his argument? Sure. If we beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 3[/URL] Virginia Tech, #3 Notre Dame, and [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=4]#4 [/URL] Clemson, we will move up to [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2][URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] [/URL] with the most impressive final five weeks in the country.

Typical nonsense.

If we beat those three teams, they will all be ranked lower. Again, as I have ALWAYS pointed out, we would need all three of those teams to continue winning (besides when we beat them) for those victories to be as impressive as they could be. So, again, something that is OUT OF OUR CONTROL.

Next...

Georgia has a chance to beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 4[/URL] Auburn and [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] Alabama.
Alabama has a chance to beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 4[/URL] Auburn, [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 9[/URL] LSU, and #1 Georgia.
Notre Dame has a chance to beat #1 0 Miami and [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 1 Stanford.
Clemson has a chance to beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 9 NC State and (presumably) #1 0 Miami.
Oklahoma has a chance to beat #1 1 OK State and #8 TCU, plus somebody good in the Big 12 championship.
Ohio State has a chance to beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 4 Michigan State and (if Ped State falters) somebody good in the Big 10 championship, likely #9 Wisconsin.
Ped State has a chance to beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 4 Michigan State and somebody good in the Big 10 championship, likely #9 Wisconsin.
TCU has a chance to beat #5 Oklahoma, plus somebody good in the Big 12 championship.
Wisconsin has a chance to beat either #6 Ohio State or #7 Ped State in the Big 10 championship.
Oklahoma State has a chance to beat #5 Oklahoma, #1 5 Iowa State, plus somebody good in the Big 12 championship.
Washington has a chance to beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 2 Stanford, [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 5 Washington State, and either #1 7 USC or [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 2 Arizona in the Pac 12 championship.
Virginia Tech has a chance to beat #1 0 Miami and a good team in the ACC-CG, likely #4 Clemson or [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 0 NC State.

Plenty of teams have plenty of opportunities for "quality wins". And we have no guarantee that our quality wins will be "as high of a quality" by the end of the year if those teams lose more games (as with the win over loss-happy F$U). And we have no guarantee that we will be playing Clemson. Clemson does not even CURRENTLY lead the Atlantic Division, NC State does. Finally, we have no guarantee that WINNING those games will produce the desired impression, as we could ONCE AGAIN be criticized for winning by small margins.

So, in reality, your "just win" approach is about as full of crap as...well, you get the picture.

As you can see, there is a TON of stuff that is out of our control. Winning does not guarantee us a Final Four spot. It just...doesn't...

We win out, we are #2 .

Feel free to prove me wrong with historical evidence.

Because college football games are won with historical evidence and committees look to past years rankings to determine what should happen this year...

And here I thought this was a football discussion.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Here's their argument: "If we go 12-0, we will get left out if Virginia Tech and Notre Dame combine to go 0-5 to end the season."

And people wonder why this board is such a mess.

Uh, no, that's not the argument.

That's only the argument if a very dumb person tries to summarize what has been said before.

I'm glad that, say, MIAMI has never, say, lost 3 more games after losing a close game. That just NEVER happens.

And to say that Virginia Tech can't lose to, say, Georgia Tech or Virginia on the road? As if that could NEVER happen? Ridiculous. If Miami beats #13 VaTech, they will move DOWN the CFP rankings. With another loss to Georgia Tech or Virginia, VaTech could EASILY be out of the rankings.

And, sure, #3 Notre Dame looks formidable. But a loss to Miami moves them down. And then let's not pretend like the game at Stanford on the road is a gimme. If Stanford beats Notre Dame, ND is likely outside the CFP Top 15.

And then it's entirely possible that NC State is who we face in the ACC-CG. They are currently #20 and in first place in the Atlantic, and while beating Clemson would move them up, losing to Miami will move them down.

So it's possible that, AT THE END OF THE SEASON, Miami might not have a win against a CFP Top 15 team. It's not that VaTech and Notre Dame have to go winless the rest of the way, but if they don't "win out" after losing to Miami, they will CERTAINLY not be as impressive of wins as they LOOK LIKE today. Not to mention if NC State wins the Atlantic.

I realize this stuff is probably too complex for you, but I believe in educating the learning disabled.

Lame insults. Middle school kids are better.

Could you show me the year in which an undefeated team from a major conference finished behind three one-loss teams? Thanks in advance.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Because college football games are won with historical evidence and committees look to past years rankings to determine what should happen this year...

And here I thought this was a football discussion.

Just show me when it has happened. Thank you.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Then refute his argument. Explain how the 4 of the one loss teams and 2 of the undefeated teams currently ranked ahead of us don't have to have 2 losses for us jump them if both ND and VTech lose out and end up 8-4.Explain how we jump a 1 loss, Bama, UGA, OSU, Oklahoma, TCU, and Penn State, if our best wins manage to go 8-4. Now assume Clemson beats NC State, but loses to FSU, and NC State at 10-2 gets to the ACCCG. We beat them and our best win is a 10-3 team ranked mid teens?

We need to win out, have ND and VT win out, have Clemson beat NC State and FSU and not **** the bed against The Citadel like they did against Syracuse, beat Clemson, and have 2 of the teams ahead of us get to 2 losses.

All of these are likely, but not guaranteed. That's the problem with an undefeated P5 team opening the CFP rankings at 10. We absolutely should be able to run the table and be in without help, but that is not the case.

Refute his argument? Sure. If we beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 3[/URL] Virginia Tech, [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3]#3 [/URL] Notre Dame, and [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=4]#4 [/URL] Clemson, we will move up to [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2][URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] [/URL] with the most impressive final five weeks in the country.

Typical nonsense.

If we beat those three teams, they will all be ranked lower. Again, as I have ALWAYS pointed out, we would need all three of those teams to continue winning (besides when we beat them) for those victories to be as impressive as they could be. So, again, something that is OUT OF OUR CONTROL.

Next...

Georgia has a chance to beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 4[/URL] Auburn and [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] Alabama.
Alabama has a chance to beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 4[/URL] Auburn, [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 9[/URL] LSU, and #1 Georgia.
Notre Dame has a chance to beat #1 0 Miami and [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 1 Stanford.
Clemson has a chance to beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 9 NC State and (presumably) #1 0 Miami.
Oklahoma has a chance to beat #1 1 OK State and #8 TCU, plus somebody good in the Big 12 championship.
Ohio State has a chance to beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 4 Michigan State and (if Ped State falters) somebody good in the Big 10 championship, likely #9 Wisconsin.
Ped State has a chance to beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 4 Michigan State and somebody good in the Big 10 championship, likely #9 Wisconsin.
TCU has a chance to beat #5 Oklahoma, plus somebody good in the Big 12 championship.
Wisconsin has a chance to beat either #6 Ohio State or #7 Ped State in the Big 10 championship.
Oklahoma State has a chance to beat #5 Oklahoma, #1 5 Iowa State, plus somebody good in the Big 12 championship.
Washington has a chance to beat [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 2 Stanford, [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 5 Washington State, and either #1 7 USC or [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 2 Arizona in the Pac 12 championship.
Virginia Tech has a chance to beat #1 0 Miami and a good team in the ACC-CG, likely #4 Clemson or [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] 0 NC State.

Plenty of teams have plenty of opportunities for "quality wins". And we have no guarantee that our quality wins will be "as high of a quality" by the end of the year if those teams lose more games (as with the win over loss-happy F$U). And we have no guarantee that we will be playing Clemson. Clemson does not even CURRENTLY lead the Atlantic Division, NC State does. Finally, we have no guarantee that WINNING those games will produce the desired impression, as we could ONCE AGAIN be criticized for winning by small margins.

So, in reality, your "just win" approach is about as full of crap as...well, you get the picture.

As you can see, there is a TON of stuff that is out of our control. Winning does not guarantee us a Final Four spot. It just...doesn't...

We win out, we are #2 .

Feel free to prove me wrong with historical evidence.

Historical evidence? I can prove you wrong with one sentence.

An undefeated Alabama or Georgia, plus an undefeated Wisconsin, would put undefeated Miami at #3 .

See how easy that was?

And I haven't even gotten started on the SIX 1-loss teams ahead of us currently, or the THREE 1-loss teams immediately behind us, several of which could push us anywhere from 5th to 7th.

You base your entire argument on 3 wins by Miami which, while impressive with today's rankings, could look very different in a month (and one of which would not even happen if we face NC State in Charlotte).

Again, that is the VERY DEFINITION of "not everything being in Miami's control".

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Historical evidence? I can prove you wrong with one sentence.

An undefeated Alabama or Georgia, plus an undefeated Wisconsin, would put undefeated Miami at #3 .

See how easy that was?

And I haven't even gotten started on the SIX 1-loss teams ahead of us currently, or the THREE 1-loss teams immediately behind us, several of which could push us anywhere from 5th to 7th.

You base your entire argument on 3 wins by Miami which, while impressive with today's rankings, could look very different in a month (and one of which would not even happen if we face NC State in Charlotte).

Again, that is the VERY DEFINITION of "not everything being in Miami's control".

Miami will pass Wisconsin by next Tuesday with a win this week. Tell me that wasn't your strong finish.

If Miami runs the table, we are a lock along with the SEC champion.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Here's a list of the top 15 teams remaining on Wisconsin's schedule:





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[Jaromir Jagr]

Wisconsin. SMH. Dude thinks we would finish behind Wisconsin.

 

[Loose Cannon]

Here's their argument: "If we go 12-0, we will get left out if Virginia Tech and Notre Dame combine to go 0-5 to end the season."

And people wonder why this board is such a mess.

Uh, no, that's not the argument.

That's only the argument if a very dumb person tries to summarize what has been said before.

I'm glad that, say, MIAMI has never, say, lost 3 more games after losing a close game. That just NEVER happens.

And to say that Virginia Tech can't lose to, say, Georgia Tech or Virginia on the road? As if that could NEVER happen? Ridiculous. If Miami beats #13 VaTech, they will move DOWN the CFP rankings. With another loss to Georgia Tech or Virginia, VaTech could EASILY be out of the rankings.

And, sure, #3 Notre Dame looks formidable. But a loss to Miami moves them down. And then let's not pretend like the game at Stanford on the road is a gimme. If Stanford beats Notre Dame, ND is likely outside the CFP Top 15.

And then it's entirely possible that NC State is who we face in the ACC-CG. They are currently #20 and in first place in the Atlantic, and while beating Clemson would move them up, losing to Miami will move them down.

So it's possible that, AT THE END OF THE SEASON, Miami might not have a win against a CFP Top 15 team. It's not that VaTech and Notre Dame have to go winless the rest of the way, but if they don't "win out" after losing to Miami, they will CERTAINLY not be as impressive of wins as they LOOK LIKE today. Not to mention if NC State wins the Atlantic.

I realize this stuff is probably too complex for you, but I believe in educating the learning disabled.

Lame insults. Middle school kids are better.

Could you show me the year in which an undefeated team from a major conference finished behind three one-loss teams? Thanks in advance.

Why does it have to have already happened before it becomes plausible? It ain't like we've had this playoff committee thing for thirty **** years. What's this? Year 4? Are we ready to go ahead and say that things that have not happened in the last three years cannot possibly happen ever?

 

[Loose Cannon]

Here's a list of the top 15 teams remaining on Wisconsin's schedule:





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Here's a list of top 15 teams on Wisconsin's schedule:















Still doesn't keep them from being ranked ahead of Miami.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Here's their argument: "If we go 12-0, we will get left out if Virginia Tech and Notre Dame combine to go 0-5 to end the season."

And people wonder why this board is such a mess.

Uh, no, that's not the argument.

That's only the argument if a very dumb person tries to summarize what has been said before.

I'm glad that, say, MIAMI has never, say, lost 3 more games after losing a close game. That just NEVER happens.

And to say that Virginia Tech can't lose to, say, Georgia Tech or Virginia on the road? As if that could NEVER happen? Ridiculous. If Miami beats #13 VaTech, they will move DOWN the CFP rankings. With another loss to Georgia Tech or Virginia, VaTech could EASILY be out of the rankings.

And, sure, #3 Notre Dame looks formidable. But a loss to Miami moves them down. And then let's not pretend like the game at Stanford on the road is a gimme. If Stanford beats Notre Dame, ND is likely outside the CFP Top 15.

And then it's entirely possible that NC State is who we face in the ACC-CG. They are currently #20 and in first place in the Atlantic, and while beating Clemson would move them up, losing to Miami will move them down.

So it's possible that, AT THE END OF THE SEASON, Miami might not have a win against a CFP Top 15 team. It's not that VaTech and Notre Dame have to go winless the rest of the way, but if they don't "win out" after losing to Miami, they will CERTAINLY not be as impressive of wins as they LOOK LIKE today. Not to mention if NC State wins the Atlantic.

I realize this stuff is probably too complex for you, but I believe in educating the learning disabled.

Lame insults. Middle school kids are better.

Could you show me the year in which an undefeated team from a major conference finished behind three one-loss teams? Thanks in advance.

Stop trying to out-buffoon yourself.

I also can't provide you with any historical evidence of SIX 1-loss Power 5 teams being ranked ahead of TWO undefeated Power 5 teams at the first BCS/CFP poll.

Yet it just happened.

So stop trying to use "the past" to justify your illogical arguments when we are clearly in unprecedented territory ALREADY.

Really, you are having THIS MUCH DIFFICULTY comprehending the unusual nature of this first CFP ranking?

Let's just turn the tables. Go out and find me any "historical evidence" of an undefeated Power 5 team being ranked behind SIX 1-loss Power 5 teams and THREE undefeated Power 5 teams (BCS or CFP polls are fine), and then that team (by going undefeated) managed to crack the Top 4. You can't, BECAUSE IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED. It's not the second part that has never happened, IT'S THE FIRST PART.

Never has an undefeated Power 5 team been ranked behind so many 1-loss Power 5 teams in the first BCS/CFP poll.

So bring me the "historical evidence" which proves your point, genius.

 

[DTP]

If you want to play semantics, it's possible for Miami to win out and not make the playoff but it's incredibly highly unlikely. An undefeated champion from a power 5 conference is a 99% shoo-in.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Wisconsin. SMH. Dude thinks we would finish behind Wisconsin.

It's not ME saying it, genius, it is the THIRTEEN PEOPLE on the CFP Committee who are CURRENTLY saying it.

Wisconsin has not beaten anyone of import, yet they are STILL ahead of us.

If we beat VaTech and Notre Dame on last second FGs, and Wisconsin wins by big margins, the CFP is not going to suddenly decide that Miami should jump Wisconsin.

 

[The Franchise]

You wanna know why the dopey committee is full of **** and has out-thought itself? Alabaga is clearly and unequivocally the best team in college football this year. They’d decapitate anyone else right now. They toy with opponents like Travis did Charla Nash.

If you’ve watched all the teams play you’d know this. The dopey committee is trying to justify its role in this dumb 4 team playoff, so they do stupid **** like put Georgia in front of Alabaga.