CFP moving to 24 teams

[Da Jumbo Mutombo]

I just don't understand the "But my regular season is meaningless now" crowd.

- A huge percentage of teams in the NFL make the playoffs (isn't it like 40%)?. NFL seems to be doing fine in terms of viewership and popularity of regular season games.
- 21% of NCAA division 1 basketball teams make the March Madness field. March Madness is arguably the greatest tournament in sports.

Moving to 24 team CFP means 17% of FBS teams make the playoff. I have a feeling fans will still pack stadiums, people will still watch televised games, and all will be fine.

One of the buggest fallacies and red herring arguments is that "ppl will still watch" so it's not bad for the sport.

Wrong. People will watch football bc the sport itself is great. Ppl feel connection to schools either by childhood connection, alumni status, etc.

So yea, theyre going to watch no matter what.

And that in no way excuses all decisions and makes them good or "not bad". Its flawed logic.

 

[Jonnyblaze]

Anyone feel CFP leaked this to get reactions?

Seems it doesn't have much support..

What "support" does it need?

The only support it needs is the "we're doing it because we get more money" crew that makes the decisions.

Don't worry though because they'll gladly pass the cost along to the fans in the form of higher ticket, concession, and jersey prices.

The sad reality is that the fans will continue to participate and spend the money. They are fully aware of that, and that’s why they’ll do whatever they want.

I’m one of those who’s a realist. I might not like what’s happening, but I realize I’m part of the problem because I give them my money for season tickets, merch, and watch games all the time.

 

[88]

If an 8-4 Rutgers and a 9-3 vanderbilt played, i would 100% watch it, as would you. stop cappin.

You’re trading big games from best teams who might be best in the nation for fringe teams trying to stay in or peak into the top 24.

You’re trading three months of drama for one month.

Fans still watching, 80% less excitedly is irrelevant. No cappin’

 

[Colombie]

Speaking of people watching, I could see the playoff selection show being dragged out into a five hour ESPN verbal diarrhea fest. Revealing slowly which crappy teams are in each bracket and then revealing the rest of the big dog selections at the end.
Heck, they can even drag it out into a few days of broadcasts like the NFL draft does.

It is going to be bad.

 

[Tony4Canes]

What "support" does it need?

The only support it needs is the "we're doing it because we get more money" crew that makes the decisions.

Don't worry though because they'll gladly pass the cost along to the fans in the form of higher ticket, concession, and jersey prices.

Understand

At some point, games will be unaffordable to attend and then maybe schools will notice drop in money

I'm not going to ND game due to all the high prices for a ticket, room etc.

 

[skyman]

hate watching stuff like this will never be the same

 

[Jonnyblaze]

Speaking of people watching, I could see the playoff selection show being dragged out into a five hour ESPN verbal diarrhea fest. Revealing slowly which crappy teams are in each bracket and then revealing the rest of the big dog selections at the end.
Heck, they can even drag it out into a few days of broadcasts like the NFL draft does.

It is going to be bad.

5 hours might not even do it.

 

[Colombie]

5 hours might not even do it.

Yup. Hence I said they may do multiple days of it like the draft.

 

[Tempest]

One of the buggest fallacies and red herring arguments is that "ppl will still watch" so it's not bad for the sport.

Wrong. People will watch football bc the sport itself is great. Ppl feel connection to schools either by childhood connection, alumni status, etc.

So yea, theyre going to watch no matter what.

And that in no way excuses all decisions and makes them good or "not bad". Its flawed logic.

How would you define good or bad for the sport when it comes to this topic?

 

[Gsugradcanefan]

You’re trading big games from best teams who might be best in the nation for fringe teams trying to stay in or peak into the top 24.

You’re trading three months of drama for one month.

Fans still watching, 80% less excitedly is irrelevant. No cappin’

Everytime there is a change in post season rules people claim it will make the regular season less relevant when historically that's not the case. They said it about the BCS, about the 4 team playoff, the 12 team and now the 24 and none of those changes actually negatively impacted the regular season. We're still seeing high ratings numbers. College football fans just hate any type of change.

 

[hurricaneman]

If they're **** bent on making more money they should move the bowl structure to the beginning of the season and have the first 2 weeks be inter-conference bowl games. That's needed anyway to establish conference strength.

Rank the conference teams in order, top to bottom, at the start of the season and have each equivalent ranked teams play each other across the conferences.

This way you're not adding more games but you're making the current games much more valuable while also solving a big bias problem within the sport. None of that goes away with a 24 team structure.

 

[Da Jumbo Mutombo]

How would you define good or bad for the sport when it comes to this topic?

I dont need to define it for my point to stand. I'll let yall define it.

But just bc people will continue to watch is not an indicator of whether its good or bad. Thats my point. Flawed logic.

 

[88]

Everytime there is a change in post season rules people claim it will make the regular season less relevant when historically that's not the case. They said it about the BCS, about the 4 team playoff, the 12 team and now the 24 and none of those changes actually negatively impacted the regular season. We're still seeing high ratings numbers. College football fans just hate any type of change.

Wrong, the regular season is already devalued compared to BCS or 4 team playoff. If you dont have the foresight to realize what happens at 24 god be with you

 

[Tempest]

I dont need to define it for my point to stand. I'll let yall define it.

But just bc people will continue to watch is not an indicator of whether its good or bad. Thats my point. Flawed logic.

Until a better metric is provided, it's the best gauge we have. People watching/attending games is the best measurement for interest in the sport.

If the argument is about the health and well-being of the players themselves, then more games in a 12 month period in a violent collision sport is probably not "good for the sport".

 

[Tempest]

Wrong, the regular season is already devalued compared to BCS or 4 team playoff. If you dont have the foresight to realize what happens at 24 god be with you

Unless you're on the mope squad, increasing from 4 to 12 team CFP just gave you the most joy from watching Miami in over 20 years. I don't mean this guarantees everything is roses with 24, but it's not fair to say increasing to 24 automatically ruins the sport.

 

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[Colombie]

Everytime there is a change in post season rules people claim it will make the regular season less relevant when historically that's not the case. They said it about the BCS, about the 4 team playoff, the 12 team and now the 24 and none of those changes actually negatively impacted the regular season. We're still seeing high ratings numbers. College football fans just hate any type of change.

In most cases you are right. But you and others have to come to the realization that it has changed things drastically in many ways.

Take a couple years ago when Michigan beat O$U. In years past that would have been an epic bragging rights statement game. Knocking out your hated rival from a Conference championship AND any possibility of a National Championship.

Due to expansion it was essentially just a little blip on a team’s resume during a National Championship run.
It is just not the same and not all changes are great.

 

[Cribby]

Thank god the sec and b10 can get 16 - 18 teams in the playoff