CFP Info from Miami OH AD

[Cficane]

I think it’s more likely we move to 11 and BYU 12 than BYU staying at 11 after a loss. You aren’t setting that precedent by dropping a team outside the playoffs to begin with. You would set that precedent by dropping Bama.

I don’t know how us and ND will shake out. But dropping BYU won’t change much. The 11th ranked team and the 130th ranked team will each play the same number of playoff games. So dropping BYU if they lose is largely inconsequential imo.

SMU lost to Clemson 1x last year which was in the ACCCG. Also the team that SMU would have dropped for was a 9-3 Bama team that that was inconsistent offensively or 10-2 Miami who was terrible on defense. Do we really think that the committee would give BYU opportunity for a 3rd possible matchup against TT in playoff? Especially if Saturday's B12 championship game is similar to the previous match up earlier this season. I don’t think they would keep BYU ahead of Miami and wouldn’t be surprised if they dropped behind Vandy.

 

[jsy]

I think it’s more likely we move to 11 and BYU 12 than BYU staying at 11 after a loss. You aren’t setting that precedent by dropping a team outside the playoffs to begin with. You would set that precedent by dropping Bama.

I don’t know how us and ND will shake out. But dropping BYU won’t change much. The 11th ranked team and the 130th ranked team will each play the same number of playoff games. So dropping BYU if they lose is largely inconsequential imo.

i dont think they will drop them bc it keeps the fake barrier between us and notre dame
so they can use their excuse that we arent close enought to do h2h bc byu is between us and they need to evaluate us as a group
thats why i think its gonna be a convenient excuse for them not to drop byu

i just hope im wrong but we beat fsu h2h in 2000 and got screwed before so it wouldnt be the first

 

[jsy]

I think if BYU loses they are dropping below Vandy and just gunna be 1 ahead of Utah. I’m not worried about that aspect at all tbh.

What I think is the dumbass worry is if BYU loses and it comes down to ND and Miami (which is 100% what a BYU loss means) and they still choose ND. If you go by all the past rankings that’s what they will do . The only hope is all the media trashing of them can finally get them to actually value H2H when it comes down to choosing the final CFP spot when deciding between two teams with similar resume and one has that H2H win

thats why i think they wont drop them
i get the sense the committee has already made up their mind that they will get notre dame in no matter what
so even in byu loses if they keep them at 11 they can use that as the excuse to say h2h doesnt matter bc we arent close enough

 

[JD4]

thats why i think they wont drop them
i get the sense the committee has already made up their mind that they will get notre dame in no matter what
so even in byu loses if they keep them at 11 they can use that as the excuse to say h2h doesnt matter bc we arent close enough

Hoping for anything else is kind of silly right now. The CROOKED committee has proven they value big brands over results on the field. Proved by having a Notre dame team that Miami man handled above us after we did better against common opponents (except for 1 team with a walk on QB)

 

[Calinative]

thats why i think they wont drop them
i get the sense the committee has already made up their mind that they will get notre dame in no matter what
so even in byu loses if they keep them at 11 they can use that as the excuse to say h2h doesnt matter bc we arent close enough

Regardless it’s our best hope. I mean odds are what like 60%-70% that BYUoses? That means that’s our best case scenario ceiling in terms of odds.

Then it’s asking what are the odds the committee chooses us over ND h2h for final spot? Maybe 30% in our favor? Well that would mean a total odds of us making it of 18%-21% at best? …

 

[rberryjr]

I legit think most of the committee did not watch our last 4games.... the way they talk, they are stuck in SMU week....

and a point I haven't heard anyone mention, when they are feeling sorry for ND the first game of the season.... uhmmmm, I'm sorry, weren't they literally in the freaking National Championship the game before that first game??????? Miami, with a QB that hadn't played with the team until fall, and coming off a train wreck end of season loss in a crappy bowl game, somehow manhandled the team that went to the Championship....

I don't think the Committee watched the Miami ND game either. I keep hearing the narrative that we only won by 3 points. Put on the tape and you see Miami Dominating ND. They only scored on busted plays and garbage time

 

[Donny Donowitz]

Been on the board for a while, just more of a spectator than a poster. Class of 2010, then worked at the school for about 7 years. All that to say, I'm no one. Just happened to have an interesting connection in this rare instance.

Same for me. I rarely get anything. But when I do I tend to share. But I’m definitely not plugged in like some of these guys.

 

[Cficane]

I also disagreed with committees take on Data point for Ole Miss without Kiffin. I am not saying Ole Miss doesn’t deserve opportunity, but saying they don’t have a data point on a coach no longer coaching, when we saw a plethora of interim coaches this season take over multiple programs and I couldn’t think of any that made a team better. I understand the difference with the situations, but to say there isn’t a data point to look at is a BS statement in my opinion.

 

[Cficane]

I don't think the Committee watched the Miami ND game either. I keep hearing the narrative that we only won by 3 points. Put on the tape and you see Miami Dominating ND. They only scored on busted plays and garbage time

Agreed.

 

[TXCANE4]

So it’s subjective not objective….sweet. Hope Marco Rubio is serious when he says Trump needs to take over the committee if Miami gets screwed

 

[TrumpyCane]

I don't think you can call retarded people retarded.

 

[CanefaninBuckeyeland]

Everything is set up for us to be the first team out. Both Bama and BYU will drop one spot if/when they lose. BA will then be the buffer for ND. They will say a three loss SEC runner up is better than a two loss UM. This will also protect ND. The whole "competitive grouping",or whatever, was only used in anticipation of UM dropping another game.

You almost have to admire the commitment to keeping ND in the playoff.

 

[aelmiami]

i dont think they will drop them bc it keeps the fake barrier between us and notre dame
so they can use their excuse that we arent close enought to do h2h bc byu is between us and they need to evaluate us as a group
thats why i think its gonna be a convenient excuse for them not to drop byu

i just hope im wrong but we beat fsu h2h in 2000 and got screwed before so it wouldnt be the first

I could see that. But I guess my argument to that would be why bump Bama up to 9? I’ve made my thoughts pretty well known. But dropping ND only creates more problems for the committee. Because if BYU loses no one will expect them to stay at 11 or move up. A loss cooks them. So if they drop that’s putting us right next to ND.

If they wanted a barrier between us they’d keep ND as far from us as possible. They aren’t. I don’t believe it’s ratings driven. I could be completely wrong. But it’s a what 30 minute show before NFL Sunday starts? It’s not like it’s 7 PM on a Saturday. I just don’t buy that. Seems like they are setting up for us to jump ND if BYU loses.

 

[aelmiami]

SMU lost to Clemson 1x last year which was in the ACCCG. Also the team that SMU would have dropped for was a 9-3 Bama team that that was inconsistent offensively or 10-2 Miami who was terrible on defense. Do we really think that the committee would give BYU opportunity for a 3rd possible matchup against TT in playoff? Especially if Saturday's B12 championship game is similar to the previous match up earlier this season. I don’t think they would keep BYU ahead of Miami and wouldn’t be surprised if they dropped behind Vandy.

Remember BYU was up by 4 TDs in the fourth quarter vs TT. Like it wasn’t close. Another bad loss would just prove they are a good team. But more in tier of like USC, Iowa, Tennessee etc.

An instance like that would 100% warrant being dropped. SMU lost in what OT or the end of the game to a playoff team. There’s a vast difference between those two scenarios.

 

[Yoyo423]

I think the fact they didn't move us up at all after we blew out pitt on the road in the cold by 31 points said a lot. They could have easily had us jump ND this past week and they didn't because they never intended to.

We did everything and more of what they asked after we first were punished at #18.

Consistent on both sides
Dominated every opponent by more than ND
Showed up in the cold under pressure and controlled the entire game against Pitt

They never intended on us jumping ND and they just assumed we'd lose again or somebody else would drop out and we'd both get in.

You'll notice they don't use metrics anymore when talking about ND and Miami. Just ND "looks better" or we "think they're the better team. Because they can't.

 

[CanefaninBuckeyeland]

I could see that. But I guess my argument to that would be why bump Bama up to 9? I’ve made my thoughts pretty well known. But dropping ND only creates more problems for the committee. Because if BYU loses no one will expect them to stay at 11 or move up. A loss cooks them. So if they drop that’s putting us right next to ND.

If they wanted a barrier between us they’d keep ND as far from us as possible. They aren’t. I don’t believe it’s ratings driven. I could be completely wrong. But it’s a what 30 minute show before NFL Sunday starts? It’s not like it’s 7 PM on a Saturday. I just don’t buy that. Seems like they are setting up for us to jump ND if BYU loses.

Because if it comes down to protecting Bama or ND, they'd sacrifice ND in a heartbeat.

 

[Mikeiavelli]

Valid point.

If "losing the SEC-CG" won't cause Alabama to drop, why does anyone think BYU will drop after losing the B12-CG?

We are rooting inconsistently.

I want Team A to win because they won't drop, but I want Team B to lose because they will drop.

Make it make sense...

"We are rooting inconsistently."

Goes hand in hand with the inconsistent nature of the committee. I think rooting inconsistently is the way to go.

 

[Cane_lover]

Here is the thing that I haven't heard a single person throw out.

"The committee said they will not punish teams for Conference Championship game performance."

Which means BYU when they lose will still remain 11, keeping us at arms length from ND. The whole if we are next to each other they will flip us narrative DOA.

This whole thing is a shame

Here is the thing that I haven't heard a single person throw out.

"The committee said they will not punish teams for Conference Championship game performance."

Which means BYU when they lose will still remain 11, keeping us at arms length from ND. The whole if we are next to each other they will flip us narrative DOA.

This whole thing is a shame.

If Bama and BYU lose, I think they move Bama between us and we are out. I think we need byu to lose and Bama to win. Then Bama and Georgia can swap places and we can swap with byu and be next to ND.

 

[Wdcanes56]

I've been saying for weeks. I thought our only chance to get in was to back into the ACC championship game and win it. Now, this committee will ***** us like always. When was the last time Miami actually caught a break?

 

[Glow]

These morons really think running up the score on bad teams is meaningful and don't understand that in college football the game is totally different when elite NFL talent fronts are involved.