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Can Miami elevate Mario

HTXCane said:
9 wins, 12 wins, and 10 wins in 4 seasons. The other season was a mess for the PAC 12 with Covid. We have won 10 games once in the 17 seasons we have been in the ACC.
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You're preaching to the choir here. I'm not convinced Manny would kill it, because I'm not convinced anyone would until I see it. But I have no doubt that he's one of if not the best coach who might even consider Miami. I was just pointing out that what people seem to think is that with all that money anything less than a NC is a failure, and what does that mean with our (presumably) smaller budget. It's stupid to act like he couldn't fail just like it's stupid to act like his record says he will fail.

Basically, everybody's stupid right now.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Didn't do better?

He won conference championships.

And who has won national championships the last 15 years outside of Nick and Dabo and Urban?

Did you think we were getting Jimbo? Rehiring Orgeron? Rehabbing Chizik?

Honestly, are there ANY other guys who have "done better" over the past 15 years? Who are still alive and/or not retired (sorry, Mack)?
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Jesus. Again, I'm not saying this. If I recall, I was responding to somebody asking what the objection to him could be. I'm not saying it's my objection, just it's something people seem to think. I'm very aware that there's like 3 guys and everybody else and we'll never be in the hunt for those 3.
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
Everyone thinks he has it just because of Phil Knight…it’s been said over and over - when has Oregon ever spent on athletic hires? Trick question: they haven’t. This contract extension they offered is cheap as well - 7 mil without taxes? Child’s play.
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I was actually pretty surprised to see what Mario makes and assumed that $7 mil couldn't be right. Surely they'll offer him more than that? My other assumption is that Oregon spends a sht ton on the team in other ways. Mario may be a great recruiter, but I have to think there's a lot of money involved in getting that much talent to that part of the country.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Finally, someone with an interesting and thought-provoking way of expressing a question with good perspective.

I think that Mario is such a strong recruiter that he will deliver on JJ's comment about "Jimmies and Joes". However, in order to deliver on Erickson's "innovative playcalling", he is going to need to get a very modern OC. I respect Mario, but his impact on offense, and as an offensive coordinator, has been focused on the O-line and the run game. We have a stable of 3 fantastic QBs, I would think that Mario would be best-served by hiring an OC who can utilize those 3 QBs. As for defense, I don't think that Mario has to hire a Venables-level DC to succeed, but someone who knows how to use SoFla talent and let kids play to their abilities.

I think Mario will do very, very well at Miami, and like JJ and Erickson and Butch and Coker, this may very well be the pinnacle of his collegiate coaching career (no idea if he has any future NFL thoughts). His first big test will be the OC hire.
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I don't get this argument about Mario and coordinators. Any HC (in my opinion) needs great coordinators. Even if you're a guru, you still need somebody doing a lot of the planning work and calling the plays in-game (I'm looking at you Manny). And as I've said before, you can fire a coordinator, but guys with their own system rarely change it when they're failing (I'm looking at you al/Richt/Mannt). To me a HC who doesn't have a particular system but can recruit players and coaches is the best option. That's why I'd choose Mario of Lane, I think that lack of a real strength on either side of the ball is a strength in itself.

And as for your comment about a DC...well, I think Manny knows how to use SFLA talent, he just hasn't been getting enough of it at certain positions. When he had a strong, disruptive DL, his D was good enough to have won at least 9 games this season. ****, look how much winning we got done with Rosier. I have nothing good to say about the guy this year, but that doesn't mean he doesn't know how to use talent so much as he hasn't been landing much of it.
 
Mario has recruited well at Oregon, by Oregon standards. He has to recruit nationally as the PNW doesn’t have the depth and talent of South Florida, Southern California, and Texas. Recruiting at Miami is a different animal, and I believe he would succeed in this regard.

And yes, he would need excellent hires at OC and DC. But so does any top program. Name a program winning big, consistently with an alleged X/O guru but with a bad staff? I’ll check replies later.
 
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HTXCane said:
If you look at what FIU was before he got there, he was more than fine. Winless the season before. Never had a winning season. He essentially had to build that program from the ground up.
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What did he do at FIU once he got the most talent in that conference? Temple got better under Golden too
 
Tru C said:
Its simple. He will need an excellent staff to reach full potential.

Dan Mullen OC
T Rob DC (got scolded for this)

Will Muschamp

Start with that
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Keep Dan Mullen as far away from here as possible.

I think UM moves on from T-Rob.

Muschamp is a solid DC option.
 
PIPO said:
Keep Dan Mullen as far away from here as possible.

I think UM moves on from T-Rob.

Muschamp is a solid DC option.
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You don’t like Dan Mullen as an OC? Wow, I am shocked, I haven’t see anyone say that. May I ask why? Is it more of a personality preference?
 
Muschamp at DC almost happened last year per @Cribby right? Would be a **** of a hire. Leach to OC lol.
 
Tru C said:
You don’t like Dan Mullen as an OC? Wow, I am shocked, I haven’t see anyone say that. May I ask why? Is it more of a personality preference?
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I have some real concerns on his ability to coach up QBs, from his first stint as QB coach under Meyer at UF, to his tenure at UF as HC.

But the bottom line is I don’t see his personality sitting well or mixing well with Mario.
 
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It really has nothing to do with Miami.

Mario can recruit. But it’s not even about that. Even if he recruits at a Manny level (which wasn’t bad but wasn’t great), he’d have more than enough talent at his disposal to win the coastal most years and consistently challenge for ACC championships. Once we’re consistently talked about in November and December, croots will flock our way.

Mario can build a program and culture, so I’m not worried about that either.

Mario’s tenure, if he comes, will rise and fall with his coordinator hires. He needs an electric OC and top-notch DC. Anything less and… well you saw the results last night.
 
canesplaymaker said:
I think he did incredible this season with a terrible qb. With TVD he is in the CFP
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I'm not bagging on Mario but this is a question in my mind. Why didn't he fix the QB situation if Brown was so bad? Is it lack of awareness? Poor assessment of who Brown really is? It's something that concerns me. After TVD and Garcia, can he identify and bring the next guy in?
 
We need the coach to elevate Miami, not the other way around.

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