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Can a fix happen as it did at Michigan?

LeavingJesusland said:
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Kinda hot.
 
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Liberty City El said:



Yall better hope your boy Mario don’t end up like Harbaugh at Michigan...

His record at Michigan has been the pure definition of Fool’s Gold.
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Things become a lot easier to understand when you realize Harbaugh isn’t there to win a national championship. He’s there to cover against directional Michigan schools and make the boosters a ton of money. It’s the only reason he still has a job.
 
fraggle said:
Jim Harbaugh has had a rough go at Michigan even though he came there with high expectations. His problem was quality assistant coaches so his brother helped him out sending him a quality defensive coach from the Ravens. Manny did rapidly switch OC's when Enos was so pathetic, he tried himself as DC and that failed but it could be a one year shot that could be remedied. Having Lashlee as OC and finding a top defensive coach just might be a solution rather then starting all over from scratch. I think a one year gamble would be worth saving the progress we've seen since the rapid switch of head coaches has not rendered any improvement. I like our offense, I like the players we have and our main problem for many years is not having a Hurricane style defense. All it would take is fresh blood at the helm of the defense to remedy and simply adding a DC is a lot less expensive and could be a rapid fix. Manny has ben good at solving problems, what if he fires him self and brings in an innovative DC. I also think we need a new SC coach, one that understands the athletic aspect of sports. Every team has muscle bound individuals but we need to improve the athletic ability not brute strength.
The gator fired their assistants that are failing them, maybe that would be a solution?
Jim Harbaugh and Michigan
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Probably the wisest solution, and supported by more than would publicly agree with it on this thread/post. The nucleus of the team (J. Williams, tvd, Taylor, Knighton, K. Smith, A. Williams, Kinchens, Jalen Rivers, Chaney, etc. is strong, young and genuinely promising... Even with a weak recruiting class, hit the portal, which Diaz has been excellent at, and hire a DC with the money saved from not having to 'start from scratch" and you'll get results that'll be more than enough to compensate for the anticipated backlash until the on field results show...

Worst case scenario, you discharge Diaz after that season if it doesn't work out. Compare that with unloading everyone, and spending inordinate amounts of $ and possibly not getting the expected results (in light of the investment...). What would happen then (if $ is spent, and the team doesn't get results... Would it be just as easy to "start over" like it would with the alternative 1 year proposal? Question is: do those with the decision making have the backbone to do what's best despite the temporary backlash (not that there wouldn't be backlash if whomever was hired in a full-reset didn't produce anyway...).
 
VA_Cane_54 said:
I can definitely see where you’re coming from. Not to mention there’s so many high profile schools looking for coaches during this carousel waiting until next cycle for a coaching change may be the best option. Unless we get Mario or Lane what’s the point in settling.
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Respectfully staying with Manny is the definition of settling. Plus what better candidates are we expecting to be available next offseason? Are we expecting Saban to suddenly feel remorse for the way he left the Dolphins and want to make it up to the city by rebuilding the Canes program?
 
fraggle said:
Jim Harbaugh has had a rough go at Michigan even though he came there with high expectations. His problem was quality assistant coaches so his brother helped him out sending him a quality defensive coach from the Ravens. Manny did rapidly switch OC's when Enos was so pathetic, he tried himself as DC and that failed but it could be a one year shot that could be remedied. Having Lashlee as OC and finding a top defensive coach just might be a solution rather then starting all over from scratch. I think a one year gamble would be worth saving the progress we've seen since the rapid switch of head coaches has not rendered any improvement. I like our offense, I like the players we have and our main problem for many years is not having a Hurricane style defense. All it would take is fresh blood at the helm of the defense to remedy and simply adding a DC is a lot less expensive and could be a rapid fix. Manny has ben good at solving problems, what if he fires him self and brings in an innovative DC. I also think we need a new SC coach, one that understands the athletic aspect of sports. Every team has muscle bound individuals but we need to improve the athletic ability not brute strength.
The gator fired their assistants that are failing them, maybe that would be a solution?
Jim Harbaugh and Michigan
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nana changing GIF
 
Goulds Cane said:
What wins of note does he have at Michigan? What hardware has he won?
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1.) You said “Harbaugh has accomplished as much as Manny has”. You didn’t say specifically at Michigan, so miss me w that lol. Manuel will never accomplish 1/5 of what Harbaugh has accomplished as a HC. Harbaugh has an Orange Bowl victory (Stanford), a **** Super Bowl appearance as well as another OB appearance (L to FSU.)

2.) Even at Michigan, three 10 win regular seasons and two seasons with at least 9 regular season wins. He could very well have an 11 win regular season this year.

So nah, he aint Saban or anything close...but saying that man has done “as much as” the worst coach this University has seen in 40+ years is disrespectful lol. And I’m sure (hope) you were exaggerating, but still...Manny couldn’t hold Harbaugh’s nuts even if he took them out for him. Manny can’t win 9 games if his life depended on it and will never get another HC job again, so ...yeah.

Please don’t rebuttal with “yeah neither of them have a natty ring”. Neither has Mario, Lincoln Riley, or Ryan Day. Have they accomplished “as much as” Manny to?
 
AtlAtty said:
Harbaugh has the advantage of having played at Michigan, and for Bo.
If we got Mario he would probably get similar homecoming treatment as harbaugh has at Michigan.

FYI, Harbaugh was a creep. I was in high school in Ann Arbor when he was the starting QT at Michigan and this guy would show up at high school parties and hit on the girls. Completely ruined it for the rest of us.
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sounds like you got cucked
 
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Manny's biggest problem is Manny, and he can't fix that.

You hear about what our practices look like, you see the lack of discipline, you see the lack of preparation, you see his defense confused a split second before the snap, you see all the fake swag, and most of all, you see the results. No new DC or OC or LB coach is going to change it.
 
fraggle said:
Jim Harbaugh has had a rough go at Michigan even though he came there with high expectations. His problem was quality assistant coaches so his brother helped him out sending him a quality defensive coach from the Ravens. Manny did rapidly switch OC's when Enos was so pathetic, he tried himself as DC and that failed but it could be a one year shot that could be remedied. Having Lashlee as OC and finding a top defensive coach just might be a solution rather then starting all over from scratch. I think a one year gamble would be worth saving the progress we've seen since the rapid switch of head coaches has not rendered any improvement. I like our offense, I like the players we have and our main problem for many years is not having a Hurricane style defense. All it would take is fresh blood at the helm of the defense to remedy and simply adding a DC is a lot less expensive and could be a rapid fix. Manny has ben good at solving problems, what if he fires him self and brings in an innovative DC. I also think we need a new SC coach, one that understands the athletic aspect of sports. Every team has muscle bound individuals but we need to improve the athletic ability not brute strength.
The gator fired their assistants that are failing them, maybe that would be a solution?
Jim Harbaugh and Michigan
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Manny doesn’t know how to run a team or a program. He’s taking L’s because - without a mentor model - failing is the process of learning.

Nobody can predict what kind of coach Manny might be in 10 years after he takes his lumps and figures out his plan and process through the experiences of his failures.

But it can be predicted with 99% certainty that Manny will not be up to the task next year. And probably not even the year after.

He makes decisions out of fear. And that will only get worse as the blade of the guillotine gets ever closer.

The best thing for Manny (if he can get it) is to go somewhere else and learn to be a head coach - whether as a mentee or a lower tier HC without the pressure to compete for championships.

The best thing for Miami is for Manny to go somewhere else.
 
fraggle said:
Jim Harbaugh has had a rough go at Michigan even though he came there with high expectations. His problem was quality assistant coaches so his brother helped him out sending him a quality defensive coach from the Ravens. Manny did rapidly switch OC's when Enos was so pathetic, he tried himself as DC and that failed but it could be a one year shot that could be remedied. Having Lashlee as OC and finding a top defensive coach just might be a solution rather then starting all over from scratch. I think a one year gamble would be worth saving the progress we've seen since the rapid switch of head coaches has not rendered any improvement. I like our offense, I like the players we have and our main problem for many years is not having a Hurricane style defense. All it would take is fresh blood at the helm of the defense to remedy and simply adding a DC is a lot less expensive and could be a rapid fix. Manny has ben good at solving problems, what if he fires him self and brings in an innovative DC. I also think we need a new SC coach, one that understands the athletic aspect of sports. Every team has muscle bound individuals but we need to improve the athletic ability not brute strength.
The gator fired their assistants that are failing them, maybe that would be a solution?
Jim Harbaugh and Michigan
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"Manny has ben good at solving problems,"

what if Manny is the problem that Manny can't solve??

what makes you think Manny is capable of hiring a DC that won't run Manny's scheme??
Basically Blake Baker 2.0
 
AmherstCane said:
The best thing for Manny (if he can get it) is to go somewhere else and learn to be a head coach - whether as a mentee or a lower tier HC without the pressure to compete for championships.
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I understand the greed and allure - especially for a dude who gets so excited - but he missed a real chance to develop some long-term skills at Temple. He probably wasn't ready for that, either, but no one would have really cared. So it goes.
 
LuCane said:
I understand the greed and allure - especially for a dude who gets so excited - but he missed a real chance to develop some long-term skills at Temple. He probably wasn't ready for that, either, but no one would have really cared. So it goes.
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People rarely act rationally. You’re 1000% right… but if Manny was really so self-aware as to turn down the Miami job, that would mean he might have actually had a chance at succeeding.

I would bet everything I own that Manny never hesitated for a millisecond before taking this job. And it’s that exact lack of self-awareness that is his undoing.

I - along with many others - mistook his firing of Enos to signify that he possessed a level of self awareness sufficient to give him even a scintilla of a chance of success here.

When he fought back against the prospective hiring of Alonzo, that should have told me everything I needed to know. He doesn’t even realize what he lacks. Hard knocks will be the only way for him to learn… sadly for him, most graduate from the school of hard knocks before they get their dream job. And Manny is nowhere close to getting his diploma from that school.
 
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VA_Cane_54 said:
I can definitely see where you’re coming from. Not to mention there’s so many high profile schools looking for coaches during this carousel waiting until next cycle for a coaching change may be the best option. Unless we get Mario or Lane what’s the point in settling.
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Thank You. My reasoning is that Diaz has made adjustments, has been good at using the portal, has good recruiting talent, and did not hesitate to get Lashlee. The losses are all that are being observed and with good reason yet his ability to change and adapt is being ignored. Sure it has been painful yet I am optimistic that things can and will improve given time for him to adjust and become the coach we deserve. If he were idle through this transition then fire the bum. You would not fire an employee that is progressing, especially in a tough profession like college sports. He is not so consumed with himself that he cannot adapt ala Golden. The fanbase is now making it almost impossible for him to do the creative changes required. Firing is the simple solution and then we have another couple years of what if we had kept....or is it here we go again. How is it going for VT and NC when those hires were super? super bad! When Fuentes lost Beamer's DC he has collapsed, Mack has failed with a star QB...and we are not getting Cristobal So we add another coach to the failing cycle of the last 20 years...sad!
By the way, now pro teams are using a turnover chain. That's innovation!
 
fraggle said:
Thank You. My reasoning is that Diaz has made adjustments, has been good at using the portal, has good recruiting talent, and did not hesitate to get Lashlee. The losses are all that are being observed and with good reason yet his ability to change and adapt is being ignored. Sure it has been painful yet I am optimistic that things can and will improve given time for him to adjust and become the coach we deserve. If he were idle through this transition then fire the bum. You would not fire an employee that is progressing, especially in a tough profession like college sports. He is not so consumed with himself that he cannot adapt ala Golden. The fanbase is now making it almost impossible for him to do the creative changes required. Firing is the simple solution and then we have another couple years of what if we had kept....or is it here we go again. How is it going for VT and NC when those hires were super? super bad! When Fuentes lost Beamer's DC he has collapsed, Mack has failed with a star QB...and we are not getting Cristobal So we add another coach to the failing cycle of the last 20 years...sad!
By the way, now pro teams are using a turnover chain. That's innovation!
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Let me make it short.... he had his chance to fix it last year... he rolled the dice and didn't.
 
The problem here isn’t a coordinator, and I’m not sure what progress you are wanting to be saved. Miami’s problem is one of apathy and culture… which starts at the top.

There have been former players and coaches who have spoken openly about what goes on inside the program. Only a new HC Will force that change.
 
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