Calling For Coach Richt To Be Fired

[deleted19096]

Manny got continuously outsmarted at Texas with overwhelming better talent than his opponents, why would he be better here with more or less equal talent than his opponents. I just can't figure it out on either guy

Miami got two guys that were outsmarted at their previous stops, yay.

 

[CaneDog66]

This is a legit question so please don’t think I’m sticking up for Richt here. Who would you hire as HC and subsequently DC and OC if you were Blake James? I know some have stated Butch Davis, either in humor or being perfectly honest. Personally I would’ve loved to have picked up Fuentes but the timing was completely off given when he was hired to when we were looking for a new head coach. Defensively I would have really liked to see Aranda here and see what he could’ve done with SF talent. On offense, I’m not sure who I would hire as I am not that up to speed on that side of the ball but I would certainly make the HC look at offensive concepts which are more relevant to today’s offenses. What say you?

 

[Earnest T. Bass]

Wow, 4 AM. I guess what Dunkin Donuts commercial wasn't lyin'!

Can we stop with the fire Mark Richt stuff? 99.8% of this board thinks that's an idiotic, asinine idea so you're addressing a very small base with this discussion. So why even bring something like this to the surface?

Did you even watch the LSU game? If you bother to actually open any threads besides your own and read what the fans are actually saying, the consensus amongst this board is not that we should be firing the head coach, but rather we should have seen some element of progress starting off the third year of his campaign as head coach.

Very clearly, we did not. We failed on a very large stage, and lost the game in the same fashion we have been losing games for over a decade. We were unprepared. We were out-coached. We made the exact same mistakes that we made in losing the last three games of 2017. That is not a debate. That is a fact.

He deserves valid criticism for that. He deserves to be questioned as to why he is starting a holdover from the last regime at quarterback when there are three young guys on the roster who certainly could not have done much worse. We lost the last four games. That's not a debate. This is also a fact.

There are multiple plays on both offense and defense that are broken down by people who take the time to do such work. Specifically, there were several plays on both sides of the ball that showed a lack of preparation by the coaching staff as a whole. We had terrible reads by the quarterback. We had missed blocking assignments by running backs. We had misalignments by the defensive personnel. We had poor tackling. These are all fundamental football issues that our opponent didn't have. This too is not a debate. These too are facts.

Oh, and their quarterback was on a different football team last year and he seemed to get the game plan under control and make some decent throws when he had to.

Again, if you bother to actually read the general view of the board this is the opinion not just of the fans, but of the brass and people whose job it is to provide content on this free website. But, you won't.

To suggest that the haters on this site make up a very small portion of the membership is patently false. ****, when you review the game day threads of last year one would come away believing that the Canes started the season 0 and 10, not 10 and 0.

I guess you also believe that Gator, FSU and Notre Dame fans who despise the Canes make-up a very small percentage of their collective fans bases.

I can't force you to accept reality. You believe there is no Mount Everest amount of negativity on this site because you've made it clear by your comments that you are a member in good standing of the mob and their uninformed, twisted views. You and the others only see a dark cloud in a silver lining. You've convinced yourselves that you know more about College football than Richt, Diaz, et al...believe me you don't...not even close!

This same phenomenon is not uncommon in business during good times and bad times where water cooler gangs will convince themselves they have all the answers. During these times I bring the "experts" in and open the books, give them time to study them, and then ask them to explain what they would do differently. In very few instances do they come back with material suggestions as the normal response is a deafening silence. In other words, more times than not they/you have no idea what you are talking about.

Hopefully, you are very good at what you do to make a living...stick to the things you know and allow college football to be your happy place...an escape from the daily stresses that life delivers to all of us.

 

[simplycanes]

To suggest that the haters on this site make up a very small portion of the membership is patently false. ****, when you review the game day threads of last year one would come away believing that the Canes started the season 0 and 10, not 10 and 0.

I guess you also believe that Gator, FSU and Notre Dame fans who despise the Canes make-up a very small percentage of their collective fans bases.

I can't force you to accept reality. You believe there is no Mount Everest amount of negativity on this site because you've made it clear by your comments that you are a member in good standing of the mob and their uninformed, twisted views. You and the others only see a dark cloud in a silver lining. You've convinced yourselves that you know more about College football than Richt, Diaz, et al...believe me you don't...not even close!

This same phenomenon is not uncommon in business during good times and bad times where water cooler gangs will convince themselves they have all the answers. During these times I bring the "experts" in and open the books, give them time to study them, and then ask them to explain what they would do differently. In very few instances do they come back with material suggestions as the normal response is a deafening silence. In other words, more times than not they/you have no idea what you are talking about.

Hopefully, you are very good at what you do to make a living...stick to the things you know and allow college football to be your happy place...an escape from the daily stresses that life delivers to all of us.

So basically you have nothing to add. The usual. I presented you facts out of an attempt to engage you in a real conversation about what is actually going on with our fan base, the team and this board but as usual you deny yourself the opportunity.

I know you post out of an absurd need for self-importance and vanity so I don't expect any different. But, please stop trying to tell us, or merely imply that you have some level of personal success of the rest of us don't. I assure you, you do not.

Since you want to play that game, you're more than welcome to join me at any football game on our schedule, I'm sure you'll be more than impressed with where and among whom I'm able to sit. We are amongst the largest supporters of this University. Offer stands.

 

[nystateofmind]

How many times has Mark barebacked you this week, OP?

 

[tcgrad1014]

Unless my math is wrong, there are 4 active head coaches in cfb who have won a national championship. Saban won his first in year 9. Urb in year 2 with a major program. Jimbo in year 4. Dabo in year 8.

Richt is in his 18th year of being a head coach at a major program. If it hasn't happened by now it isn't happening.

Richt is a B/B+ coach. He'll win 9 to 10 games a year. Our previous 3 hires had no major program HC experience and they all sucked. Richt was the safe, stable choice. But what you see is what you get.

 

[Salt]

The CIS site is mostly (not all) a home for those who do nothing but complain and belittle. Reading many of the posts after the LSU game drove home the point that the haters, who claim to be UM fans, were giddy as they ravaged the football program from stem to stern.

After a UM loss, the number of posts appears to outnumber, by a wide margin, the posts after a UM win. That alone should tell you all you need to know.

It is clear that some are not in an earthly orbit when calling for the firings of Coach Richt and Coach Diaz. Our competitors have to be thrilled by our 'useful idiots' who are working overtime to destroy the program.

Employ your wildest imagination and try to visualize the catastrophic damage to the program if Coach Richt were fired. Recruits and their families would be afraid to sign on with the Canes knowing full and well the program has zero stability...and sanity! The media would have a field day shredding the program and knee-slapping laughing at us. Any coach of substance being offered the UM head coaching job after the firing of Coach Richt would think...these clowns need a net thrown over them and should be lobotomized?...the answer is not no. But, **** NO!!!

And those calling for the hiring of Butch Davis, why not Jimmie Johnson or Howard Schnellenberger? At least they won National Championships. The rich irony is, the mob (whose collective knowledge of the program could be fit on the head of a sewing needle), based on the early records of Schnellenberger, Johnson and yes Davis would have been howling for banner planes to fly to help fire those bums.

Now, I realize that the normal suspects will be down-voting this entry, along with the dumb, boring, etc. designations, not to mention the not terribly bright insults, but those actions do one thing...they prove my case. But where are the clowns--Send in the clowns--Don't bother, they're already here!

I recall from champs to chumps banner regarding Butch. And now the same guys calling Butch a god are clamoring to fire Richt. It's priceless!

 

[nobeastofburden]

People celebrate after wins, and misery loves company when we lose. What you fail to see is the sunshine pumpers of the last 20 years never seem to see the problems.

 

[Dwinstitles]

No one is saying to fire Richt yet but to believe he wont win a title here is ok, some people just dont think he has what it takes to win a championship here and make us elite again. If he keeps that up he will get fired maybe not this season but next year those talks will start if the losses pile up. I like the guy but I just dont think he wins a title here and thats what I want in a coach, a coach that can bring miami to elite status and to win a title.

 

[Dwinstitles]

People celebrate after wins, and misery loves company when we lose. What you fail to see is the sunshine pumpers of the last 20 years never seem to see the problems.

Bruh when the problems present themselves and they are there long no one wants to look, the sunshine guys just ignore it until they become mopers on our side. We just ahead of the curve.

 

[Silver King]

'Come on Man' or just deliriously unrealistic expectations in only 2.5 years of recruiting, after what this program had disintegrated to (Avoiding the Death Sentence) that we were forced to put up with the last 15 years?

The handful of coaches who have won recent championships; Saban, Dabo, Meyer have talent filled programs (uninterrupted by any recent NCAA sanctions) that recruit the blue-chippers themselves, because of those titles.

Those coaches/programs aren't going anywhere. That is until one gets busted like we did; has a scandal that gets a coach fired-like OSU just avoided (which shows how improbable that is); or retirement - and Saban just signed a deal where he'll be older than Methuselah when that contract ends.

I'm pretty sure none of them will leave their job for Miami.

So who in the **** is available that's better than putting up a 700+ winning percentage in the same conference that included 9 of the last 12 National Champions, and one of the most dominant programs ever? By the way, he was also the same guy that recruited a lot of the play-makers on a GA team that made it to the final last season.

Last year we had 30 turnovers in 10 wins, we had only 1 in 4 loses; we got turnovers again and we broke a losing streak, but we have holes to fill and recruiting by this guy will eventually fill them.

3-5 years would be working a miracle to bring this program back to prominence from wence it came; let alone winning a National Title.

 

[CaneFan79]

To suggest that the haters on this site make up a very small portion of the membership is patently false. ****, when you review the game day threads of last year one would come away believing that the Canes started the season 0 and 10, not 10 and 0.

I guess you also believe that Gator, FSU and Notre Dame fans who despise the Canes make-up a very small percentage of their collective fans bases.

I can't force you to accept reality. You believe there is no Mount Everest amount of negativity on this site because you've made it clear by your comments that you are a member in good standing of the mob and their uninformed, twisted views. You and the others only see a dark cloud in a silver lining. You've convinced yourselves that you know more about College football than Richt, Diaz, et al...believe me you don't...not even close!

This same phenomenon is not uncommon in business during good times and bad times where water cooler gangs will convince themselves they have all the answers. During these times I bring the "experts" in and open the books, give them time to study them, and then ask them to explain what they would do differently. In very few instances do they come back with material suggestions as the normal response is a deafening silence. In other words, more times than not they/you have no idea what you are talking about.

Hopefully, you are very good at what you do to make a living...stick to the things you know and allow college football to be your happy place...an escape from the daily stresses that life delivers to all of us.

Remember the superiority of Northwestern's facilities!

 

[Consigliere]

Richt is in his 18th year of being a head coach at a major program. If it hasn't happened by now it isn't happening.

Richt is a B/B+ coach. He'll win 9 to 10 games a year. Our previous 3 hires had no major program HC experience and they all sucked. Richt was the safe, stable choice. But what you see is what you get.

I don't think there are many coaches who coached, as an HC for 15+ years, and then won big all of the sudden. I am not sure if there are any coaches who have substantially exceeded their resume after such a big sample. Even if there were some, that doesn't mean that Richt is going to be one of them.

 

[John77]

I don't think there are many coaches who coached, as an HC for 15+ years, and then won big all of the sudden. I am not sure if there are any coaches who have substantially exceeded their resume after such a big sample. Even if there were some, that doesn't mean that Richt is going to be one of them.

Mack Brown only one I can think of

 

[Consigliere]

'Come on Man' or just deliriously unrealistic expectations in only 2.5 years of recruiting, after what this program had disintegrated to (Avoiding the Death Sentence) that we were forced to put up with the last 15 years?

Is it "unrealistic" to expect to beat teams with inferior talent (e.g. Pitt) or coaching? How many years does that take? How come Pete Carroll didn't need 2.5 recruiting classes to win a championship?

Also, how many years of recruiting does it take to make an obvious coaching change?

Good coaches win. Good coaches make changes and correct obvious issues. Good coaches don't hire their atrocious family members as coaches.

The handful of coaches who have won recent championships; Saban, Dabo, Meyer have talent filled programs (uninterrupted by any recent NCAA sanctions) that recruit the blue-chippers themselves, because of those titles.

Is this a "cloud" sighting? Wow.

So who in the **** is available that's better than putting up a 700+ winning percentage in the same conference that included 9 of the last 12 National Champions, and one of the most dominant programs ever? By the way, he was also the same guy that recruited a lot of the play-makers on a GA team that made it to the final last season.

1. Winning Percentage? Seriously. We're trying to win the conference, make the playoffs and win championships.
2. Richt last won the conference (SEC) in 2005. Why didn't he do it again after that?
3. The SEC fielded 9/12 NCs but none of them were Richt. It isn't an accomplishment to lose to the champions. It really isn't an accomplishment to lose consistently to those champions.
4. You can't coach players after you're fired. And when he was coaching them, he wasn't getting it done either. It doesn't matter who the coach is at UGA because it isn't Richt anymore.

Last year we had 30 turnovers in 10 wins, we had only 1 in 4 loses; we got turnovers again and we broke a losing streak, but we have holes to fill and recruiting by this guy will eventually fill them.

3-5 years would be working a miracle to bring this program back to prominence from wence it came; let alone winning a National Title.

[/QUOTE]

1. How long does it take to make obvious coaching changes?
2. How long does it take until we routinely beat inferior teams?
3. Aren't there obvious issues that you're concerned with?

 

[tcgrad1014]

Mack Brown only one I can think of

Brown won his title in year 17 at a major conference program. He's the anomaly, and Richt is already past 17 years.

 

[Silver King]

Ok arm-chair geniuses, then tell me who it is out there - that's remotley available - that YOU want to hire that will step in and make us instant National Champions in a year or two? I'm waiting fellas. Or, who were you asking for over this past 15 years - because no one in their right mind would have come here with those sanctions on the program.

 

[ncncanes]

Ok arm-chair geniuses, then tell me who it is out there - that's remotley available - that YOU want to hire that will step in and make us instant National Champions in a year or two? I'm waiting fellas. Or, who were you asking for over this past 15 years - because no one in their right mind would have come here with those sanctions on the program.

Couldnt agree more --- no one in the top 25 wants this job
--- that is how we ended up with AG

We have done a poor job on OL - get that fixed in the next few years and we can get to the playoffs

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

Is it "unrealistic" to expect to beat teams with inferior talent (e.g. Pitt) or coaching? How many years does that take? How come Pete Carroll didn't need 2.5 recruiting classes to win a championship?

Also, how many years of recruiting does it take to make an obvious coaching change?

Good coaches win. Good coaches make changes and correct obvious issues. Good coaches don't hire their atrocious family members as coaches.



Is this a "cloud" sighting? Wow.



1. Winning Percentage? Seriously. We're trying to win the conference, make the playoffs and win championships.
2. Richt last won the conference (SEC) in 2005. Why didn't he do it again after that?
3. The SEC fielded 9/12 NCs but none of them were Richt. It isn't an accomplishment to lose to the champions. It really isn't an accomplishment to lose consistently to those champions.
4. You can't coach players after you're fired. And when he was coaching them, he wasn't getting it done either. It doesn't matter who the coach is at UGA because it isn't Richt anymore.

1. How long does it take to make obvious coaching changes?
2. How long does it take until we routinely beat inferior teams?
3. Aren't there obvious issues that you're concerned with?[/QUOTE]


Pete Carroll is one of the better coaches in the history of the sport at all levels.

Richt is not an elite coach, but he is a good coach. My hope with him is that he compiles enough talent to get over the hump one year. I wouldn’t say it’s likely, but coaches have had success at Miami that they have not had anywhere else.

 

[boxtonenyc]

'Come on Man' or just deliriously unrealistic expectations in only 2.5 years of recruiting, after what this program had disintegrated to (Avoiding the Death Sentence) that we were forced to put up with the last 15 years?

The handful of coaches who have won recent championships; Saban, Dabo, Meyer have talent filled programs (uninterrupted by any recent NCAA sanctions) that recruit the blue-chippers themselves, because of those titles.

Those coaches/programs aren't going anywhere. That is until one gets busted like we did; has a scandal that gets a coach fired-like OSU just avoided (which shows how improbable that is); or retirement - and Saban just signed a deal where he'll be older than Methuselah when that contract ends.

I'm pretty sure none of them will leave their job for Miami.

So who in the **** is available that's better than putting up a 700+ winning percentage in the same conference that included 9 of the last 12 National Champions, and one of the most dominant programs ever? By the way, he was also the same guy that recruited a lot of the play-makers on a GA team that made it to the final last season.

Last year we had 30 turnovers in 10 wins, we had only 1 in 4 loses; we got turnovers again and we broke a losing streak, but we have holes to fill and recruiting by this guy will eventually fill them.

3-5 years would be working a miracle to bring this program back to prominence from wence it came; let alone winning a National Title.

so much fail in this post its beyond belief.

OSU hadnt won a title in decades and when they got the right coach it took 2 seasons. Same with USC and UF. Bama was 3 seasons.

This idea that bc we havent won a title since 2001 means it will take 5+ years to come back is just not true at all.

Get the right coach and by year two or three you will have a championship level team. Pretty simple.

Mark Richt in year 3 wont even win the ACC. And this is a guy who has an established ceiling as a coach. But some idiots think hes magically going to be better here?