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Calling For Coach Richt To Be Fired

I’m in the middle , I don’t want Richt fired, (shouldn’t even be a discussion) but I question his decisions and rightfully so. If you don’t you’re a blind homer that will accept mediocrity, or pretty much anything.

Hiring his son is , was and always has been a bs move, kid has no resume. Purely nepotism, nothing more.

Then mix in the green offensive staff and a coach who hasn’t called plays in awhile. Hence the offense has been a mess. He continues to roll out a terrible qb , even though it’s year three. No grad transfers,transfers or jucos.

There’s other questionable roster management issues , rolling with a punter with the yips, a true Fr kicker and no te depth. I *****ed about all these things in the off season.

We overachieved last year , pretty much got lucky a few games which covered up some roster flaws. Mark didn’t inherit a great roster, so it’s going to take one , maybe two more classes to get the depth to Miami caliber.

Basically if you’re ok with a bunch of 9-11 win years , with the occasionally 12 wins then Richt is your guy. If not, then he’s not, dude has been coaching almost 20 years , this is who he his.

After Al, Randy , Coker I’m ok with that.

For now.
 
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Honestly, who you going to get if you fire Richt? The last home run hire they had, was Butch Davis in 1995. After that, it has been dud after dud. If Richt fails(which he more than likely will), just fold the program or stop pretending that Miami is still a relevant program.
 
MiamiHotline said:
Honestly, who you going to get if you fire Richt? The last home run hire they had, was Butch Davis in 1995. After that, it has been dud after dud. If Richt fails(which he more than likely will), just fold the program or stop pretending that Miami is still a relevant program.
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Being scared to fire your coach because you'll lose recruits and the fear of "not being able to get anyone better" isn't a great one.

I think there are some notable issues that - by Year 3 - are clear issues that are some indicators to a ceiling to our potential under Richt.

Both Quarterbacks - one regressed under Richt, the other just stinks and up to this point, refuses to play the young QBs he has recruited.
Lack of focus on the run game - a hallmark of Richt's offense and one of the reasons he can't get over the hump.
OL recruiting - Its not up to snuff nationally...needs a few classes full of Scaife and Reed types to get there.
DL recruiting - Its not up to snuff in conference, nevermind nationally...outside of a commitment to the run game, Richt's biggest knock, IMO.
Missing on big time local recruits - from Surtain Jr. to Campbell to Frank Ladson to Jerry Jeudy...its alarming.
A young staff surrounding him for the most part and none are particularly intriguing coaches long term.

Then from a statistical measure, 3rd down on offense and defense is gross. Rush attempts per game is horrendous. These are good metrics for good teams. Bad metrics for average to less than average teams.

If you don't think any of the above will change or get to national championship level, then I understand if you are calling for his head this early.
 
Who is calling for Richt to be fired?

I think the fans who are being critical of the situation recognize 2 things:

1. Changes need to be made to the staff - particularly OC, QB coach and most of the defensive staff
2. Richt is unlikely to fire himself (as OC) or his son

Therefore the program appears to have an artificial ceiling under Richt that will likely lead to his ouster at some point. It's only natural to be frustrated with a situation like this but firing Richt right now will do more harm than good. Miami needs Richt to continue to build the program and stockpile talent. If he fails to get over the hump then his dismissal would create one of the most desirable job openings in recent years.

The worst thing the fans can do is create another toxic atmosphere with banners flying and boycotting attendance and any other irrational desperate behaviors that only harm the program. (Not that it wasn't warranted and required with the previous regime)
 
Gatorhater said:
Here is the thing. Regardless of wether you like or dislike Mark, his coaching experience come from two places, FSU and UGA. Both showed tolerance for long serving coaches to continue to fail in the cruicial games that cost them NCs. Bowden would neve have lasted all those years before he was finally basically given and piety NC(the second one was deserved). UGA didn’t even know what a title was so Mark got a very run with nothing to show. He cannot help but be tainted by that. He thinks he has time but he doesn’t. This year’s upcoming recruiting class shows that.

If he does not get he *** in gear and make whatever chances will get results, regardless of his own thinking, he will be gone in two or three years. He needs to be a different Mark, because the old Mark just does not cut it. Maybe all this heat from fans so quick will wake him up to the fact that he is not some great success story by Miami standards. JJ did not bring the wishbone with him to Miami. Mark did bring his offense and it sucks. Many did the same thing, although he talks running Miami defense, in truth it is his failed Manny defense.

It is not the fans complaining about Mark that threaten his success, it is the echo camber of supporters who continue to pat him on the back and tell him his is doing good. We were on the verge on it all happening last year including monster fan response that turned the Rock into the old OB for ND on prime time. Did he grab that and drive it home, no. Instead we sit here with four nasty beat downs in a row. There will be no repeat of last years excellent recruiting class. Heck the early signing period saved that one. Aside from one great DT and a lucky surprise DT, who did Mark close on in February? LSU was the biggest game of Mark life and he didn’t even notice. That is the problem.
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The man took a Miami program that was swirling around the toilet drain about to be flushed into oblivion and somehow, someway he led the Canes to their first ACC Coastal Division title EVER, notched a 10 win season despite major injuries to many of his top performers, and took the Canes to the Orange Bowl, the first Major Bowl appearance since January 1, 2004.

Then, belittling his resume is patently absurd. And all that other gobblygook you are blathering on about is as worthless as teats on a boar hog.

Look I get it...it makes you feel good to be *****ing about something, if not anything about Miami's football program. In recent days Mark Richt has been the target you cats have been unloading your hate on, but you will soon move on to your next innocent victim. You and your gang are the ones who pass around attaboys to one another for slamming the coaches, kids, administrators, etc. and then you are rewarded with praise. Yet, if anyone DARES to have something positive to say about the program this site goes into a meltdown.

You simply don't know what you don't know.

PS: He also donated ONE MILLION DOLLARS to the football program, but of course that doesn't mean anything to you and the other CIS tricycle riding ***** Angels...Vroom! Vroom!
 
Earnest T. Bass said:
The CIS site is mostly (not all) a home for those who do nothing but complain and belittle. Reading many of the posts after the LSU game drove home the point that the haters, who claim to be UM fans, were giddy as they ravaged the football program from stem to stern.

After a UM loss, the number of posts appears to outnumber, by a wide margin, the posts after a UM win. That alone should tell you all you need to know.

It is clear that some are not in an earthly orbit when calling for the firings of Coach Richt and Coach Diaz. Our competitors have to be thrilled by our 'useful idiots' who are working overtime to destroy the program.

Employ your wildest imagination and try to visualize the catastrophic damage to the program if Coach Richt were fired. Recruits and their families would be afraid to sign on with the Canes knowing full and well the program has zero stability...and sanity! The media would have a field day shredding the program and knee-slapping laughing at us. Any coach of substance being offered the UM head coaching job after the firing of Coach Richt would think...these clowns need a net thrown over them and should be lobotomized?...the answer is not no. But, **** NO!!!

And those calling for the hiring of Butch Davis, why not Jimmie Johnson or Howard Schnellenberger? At least they won National Championships. The rich irony is, the mob (whose collective knowledge of the program could be fit on the head of a sewing needle), based on the early records of Schnellenberger, Johnson and yes Davis would have been howling for banner planes to fly to help fire those bums.

Now, I realize that the normal suspects will be down-voting this entry, along with the dumb, boring, etc. designations, not to mention the not terribly bright insults, but those actions do one thing...they prove my case. But where are the clowns--Send in the clowns--Don't bother, they're already here!
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I don't disagree with you but the problem becomes when the head coach can't fire his staff because of personal feelings or reasons. The great coaches always wanna get better even if it's firing someone because they see someone else that can help them get better. You cannot say you don't agree with this because you know it's true. We need a better DC and we need an actual OC. If we did both we would be so much better.
 
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Wow, 4 AM. I guess what Dunkin Donuts commercial wasn't lyin'!

Can we stop with the fire Mark Richt stuff? 99.8% of this board thinks that's an idiotic, asinine idea so you're addressing a very small base with this discussion. So why even bring something like this to the surface?

Did you even watch the LSU game? If you bother to actually open any threads besides your own and read what the fans are actually saying, the consensus amongst this board is not that we should be firing the head coach, but rather we should have seen some element of progress starting off the third year of his campaign as head coach.

Very clearly, we did not. We failed on a very large stage, and lost the game in the same fashion we have been losing games for over a decade. We were unprepared. We were out-coached. We made the exact same mistakes that we made in losing the last three games of 2017. That is not a debate. That is a fact.

He deserves valid criticism for that. He deserves to be questioned as to why he is starting a holdover from the last regime at quarterback when there are three young guys on the roster who certainly could not have done much worse. We lost the last four games. That's not a debate. This is also a fact.

There are multiple plays on both offense and defense that are broken down by people who take the time to do such work. Specifically, there were several plays on both sides of the ball that showed a lack of preparation by the coaching staff as a whole. We had terrible reads by the quarterback. We had missed blocking assignments by running backs. We had misalignments by the defensive personnel. We had poor tackling. These are all fundamental football issues that our opponent didn't have. This too is not a debate. These too are facts.

Oh, and their quarterback was on a different football team last year and he seemed to get the game plan under control and make some decent throws when he had to.

Again, if you bother to actually read the general view of the board this is the opinion not just of the fans, but of the brass and people whose job it is to provide content on this free website. But, you won't.
 
Earnest T. Bass said:
The CIS site is mostly (not all) a home for those who do nothing but complain and belittle. Reading many of the posts after the LSU game drove home the point that the haters, who claim to be UM fans, were giddy as they ravaged the football program from stem to stern.

After a UM loss, the number of posts appears to outnumber, by a wide margin, the posts after a UM win. That alone should tell you all you need to know.

It is clear that some are not in an earthly orbit when calling for the firings of Coach Richt and Coach Diaz. Our competitors have to be thrilled by our 'useful idiots' who are working overtime to destroy the program.

Employ your wildest imagination and try to visualize the catastrophic damage to the program if Coach Richt were fired. Recruits and their families would be afraid to sign on with the Canes knowing full and well the program has zero stability...and sanity! The media would have a field day shredding the program and knee-slapping laughing at us. Any coach of substance being offered the UM head coaching job after the firing of Coach Richt would think...these clowns need a net thrown over them and should be lobotomized?...the answer is not no. But, **** NO!!!

And those calling for the hiring of Butch Davis, why not Jimmie Johnson or Howard Schnellenberger? At least they won National Championships. The rich irony is, the mob (whose collective knowledge of the program could be fit on the head of a sewing needle), based on the early records of Schnellenberger, Johnson and yes Davis would have been howling for banner planes to fly to help fire those bums.

Now, I realize that the normal suspects will be down-voting this entry, along with the dumb, boring, etc. designations, not to mention the not terribly bright insults, but those actions do one thing...they prove my case. But where are the clowns--Send in the clowns--Don't bother, they're already here!
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Hey supper fan, all you need to worry about is not showing the bulge under your cheerleading skirt. Beyond that stfu.
 
I wish Richt was more creative on Offense, we have a ton of skill players. we need to double down on recruiting the trenches that is were it is won or lost. Richt has done an awful lot for a Program that had Coker, Shannon
then Golden. when the game was exploding money, facilities, coaches salaries, well developed S & C programs
Donna and Dee were harvesting money and not reinvesting in anything, so in essence its a double whammy
and we are paying to this day.
Richt has turned us into a relevant program again rather than a dumpster fire. be thankful.
we need an OC as well as more money for staff also reevaluate our S & C program we get pushed around by any body
thats decent Clemson, LSU, Wisconsin. no explosive strength period.we a top 10-20 team at the moment
and a some time away from the top tier.....
 
Richt shouldn’t be fired but there are some changes that need to be made. First off his son coaching quarterbacks with him is a joke and a waste of a coaching position, why should we as supporters of the program have to deal with two coaches at one position and one of our coaches at that position being trained to coach that position on the job when we could use a good coach elsewhere. “We shouldn’t be the experiment at this level” Richt should be able to make a call and get his son on a staff where he deserves to be, not at this level. As far as Richt as an oc I have wanted him to hire someone els for awhile but after really looking at it I don’t think he is as bad calling plays as we have thought, if he had a quarterback that that Completed more then 45% of his passes he would look a lot better. IMO the best oc in the game would look incompatent with rosier running his offense. That being said it’s on Richt to replace rosier and this needs to happen before North Carolina.
 
Earnest T. Bass said:
The CIS site is mostly (not all) a home for those who do nothing but complain and belittle. Reading many of the posts after the LSU game drove home the point that the haters, who claim to be UM fans, were giddy as they ravaged the football program from stem to stern.

After a UM loss, the number of posts appears to outnumber, by a wide margin, the posts after a UM win. That alone should tell you all you need to know.

It is clear that some are not in an earthly orbit when calling for the firings of Coach Richt and Coach Diaz. Our competitors have to be thrilled by our 'useful idiots' who are working overtime to destroy the program.

Employ your wildest imagination and try to visualize the catastrophic damage to the program if Coach Richt were fired. Recruits and their families would be afraid to sign on with the Canes knowing full and well the program has zero stability...and sanity! The media would have a field day shredding the program and knee-slapping laughing at us. Any coach of substance being offered the UM head coaching job after the firing of Coach Richt would think...these clowns need a net thrown over them and should be lobotomized?...the answer is not no. But, **** NO!!!

And those calling for the hiring of Butch Davis, why not Jimmie Johnson or Howard Schnellenberger? At least they won National Championships. The rich irony is, the mob (whose collective knowledge of the program could be fit on the head of a sewing needle), based on the early records of Schnellenberger, Johnson and yes Davis would have been howling for banner planes to fly to help fire those bums.

Now, I realize that the normal suspects will be down-voting this entry, along with the dumb, boring, etc. designations, not to mention the not terribly bright insults, but those actions do one thing...they prove my case. But where are the clowns--Send in the clowns--Don't bother, they're already here!
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I appreciate the thought, but you fail to realize that when people feel personally hurt, reason takes a vacation. You cannot be rational with such people, or expect them to think through things. You have to treat them like children throwing a tantrum. Just let them vent, until they tire themselves into silence. Then, when they wake up from their nap, you take them to Chuckie Cheese (Sav. St.), at which point they will delight in life again. Be aware though, that if the toy claw machine (Rosier) is out of order, they will still grumble on the the way home.
 
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Agree with this post 100%.
The people saying Richt and Manny should get fired are laughable. Yes we did lose this last game on national tv, there needs to be some changes and I don't think Malik is the answer but fired cmon. What richt has done in the past couple of years regarding changing the program, donating money, bringing back former players into the fold, developing most players to where they are, recruiting and let's not forget showing out and talking to the little kids at local parks goes along way.
 
Canesfreak89 said:
Richt shouldn’t be fired but there are some changes that need to be made. First off his son coaching quarterbacks with him is a joke and a waste of a coaching position, why should we as supporters of the program have to deal with two coaches at one position and one of our coaches at that position being trained to coach that position on the job when we could use a good coach elsewhere. “We shouldn’t be the experiment at this level” Richt should be able to make a call and get his son on a staff where he deserves to be, not at this level. As far as Richt as an oc I have wanted him to hire someone els for awhile but after really looking at it I don’t think he is as bad calling plays as we have thought, if he had a quarterback that that Completed more then 45% of his passes he would look a lot better. IMO the best oc in the game would look incompatent with rosier running his offense. That being said it’s on Richt to replace rosier and this needs to happen before North Carolina.
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I agree with everything but Richt is not a good OC (In addition, very few good coaches at this level can do both at a high level).

We’ve known this for awhile and there is a tremendous amount of data at UGA that proves this. They averaged more points per game and gained more yards after Richt stepped down from OC.

Then in two seasons at UM, the offense regressed and still looks bad. In addition in year 3, knowing your QB has an “accuracy problem”, continuing to go with him and throw the ball so many times is on the OC/HC.

The time to make changes, at both OC and QB coach should have happened after last season, if not sooner, but the combination of a tremendous ego and/or apathy from our tranny ***ing short bus riding AD leaves us where we are today. The sad part is when given the opportunity to get help this off-season, he didn’t even need to fire his son, he choose to add an unqualified defensive coach at LB.

So in total you have:

1. Two DB coaches
2. Two LB coaches (Patke and Diaz)
3. Jon Richt (who wouldn’t have a job at this level). So combined Patke and Richt, you have at least two coaches who aren’t qualified at this level, and
4. No offensive coaches who know how to diagnose an offense and call plays.

And yes, a better OC would get more out of this offense. Especially if given 3 years to coach it up. This doesn’t mean that said OC has to go with Rosier either.

Please note Jon Richt should have never been a coach to begin with. In addition, who adds a defensive coach over offense or STs where there are more serious and obvious issues?
 
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ajkreider said:
I appreciate the thought, but you fail to realize that when people feel personally hurt, reason takes a vacation. You cannot be rational with such people, or expect them to think through things. You have to treat them like children throwing a tantrum. Just let them vent, until they tire themselves into silence. Then, when they wake up from their nap, you take them to Chuckie Cheese (Sav. St.), at which point they will delight in life again. Be aware though, that if the toy claw machine (Rosier) is out of order, they will still grumble on the the way home.
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Your comment is well taken, but those cats are ALWAYS personally hurt and their reason is perpetually vacationing in a far, far, far away land. Win or lose, once they've tired of maligning someone or something associated with the UM football program the herd simply identifies another target to eviscerate...it NEVER ends!
 
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LoungeLord said:
Hey supper fan, all you need to worry about is not showing the bulge under your cheerleading skirt. Beyond that stfu.
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Look at you! Let me help you, the word you were trying to spell is 'super', not supper. Let's use 'super' in a sentence, LoungeLord projects a 'super' lack of intelligence. See, it's not that hard, well in fairness, it's probably very hard for someone such as yourself who boasts a single digit IQ.
 
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