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Offensive PPG vs P5 Opponents

TeamOCPPG vs P5 Teams
2016 MiamiRicht/Brown29.3
2017 MiamiRicht/Brown25.91
2018 MiamiRicht/Brown21.7
2019 MiamiEnos25.55
2020 MiamiLashlee34.3
2021 MiamiLashlee34
2022 Miami*Gattis16.4

Another data point showing how historically bad this offense is. This number is so bad that I have a hard time believing that this group of players is the driver in the decline of production.

Defensive PPG vs P5 Opponents

TeamDCPPG vs P5 Teams
2016 MiamiDiaz21.8
2017 MiamiDiaz20.91
2018 MiamiDiaz21.2
2019 MiamiBaker/Banda23
2020 MiamiBaker/Banda28.3
2021 MiamiDiaz31.8
2022 Miami*Steele23
*YTD 2022

Steele hasn't been a home run but in my opinion he's been "good enough" to retain. In my opinion the defense is giving us a chance to win but the offense is just doing nothing to help.
 

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I hate to be the guy that moves the goal posts but if you take away the turnovers offensively Steele and defense have been **** near elite.

Yes I know it’s part of the game but this offense is not only so bad at scoring points but it’s also that bad at not turning it over…. Including Mario’s dumb *** going for it every 4th and short

The d line and Steele have been plenty good enough. Flagg is horrific in space and our db’s are putrid at assignment football…. And yet we’re still only giving up 23 with all of those factors above
 
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Allabouttheu95 said:
I hate to be the guy that moves the goal posts but if you take away the turnovers offensively Steele and defense have been **** near elite.

Yes I know it’s part of the game but this offense is not only so bad at scoring points but it’s also that bad at not turning it over…. Including Mario’s dumb *** going for it every 4th and short

The d line and Steele have been plenty good enough. Flagg is horrific in space and our db’s are putrid at assignment football…. And yet we’re still only giving up 23 with all of those factors above
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I tend to agree here. We're turning the ball over at the same clip that Richt did during his last year. That offense scored 5.3 pts more per game though which at least gave that defense a chance to keep us in the game.

TeamOCGiveaways PG
2016 MiamiRicht/Brown0.8
2017 MiamiRicht/Brown1.5
2018 MiamiRicht/Brown2
2019 MiamiEnos1.4
2020 MiamiLashlee1.1
2021 MiamiLashlee1.5
2022 MiamiGattis2
 
Canesrule230 said:
I tend to agree here. We're turning the ball over at the same clip that Richt did during his last year. That offense scored 5.3 pts more per game though which at least gave that defense a chance to keep us in the game.

TeamOCGiveaways PG
2016 MiamiRicht/Brown0.8
2017 MiamiRicht/Brown1.5
2018 MiamiRicht/Brown2
2019 MiamiEnos1.4
2020 MiamiLashlee1.1
2021 MiamiLashlee1.5
2022 MiamiGattis2
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That doesn’t even account for special team giveaways…
 
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Allabouttheu95 said:
That doesn’t even account for special team giveaways…
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Yea and you can drill into the data and parse it out, it probably makes it worse. I'm just trying to give a high level view of how historically bad this offense is. I keep hearing the narrative that this group of kids is the problem and I have a hard time believing that given the recent hard data.
 
Considering that offensive production the defense has been overall solid for the most part, they've been out there constantly fighting an uphill battle, on the field and in their minds watching this **** show of an offense.
 
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Canesrule230 said:
Yea and you can drill into the data and parse it out, it probably makes it worse. I'm just trying to give a high level view of how historically bad this offense is. I keep hearing the narrative that this group of kids is the problem and I have a hard time believing that given the recent hard data.
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Absolutely. I appreciate you putting the data in here. I was in no way giving you **** with my comment… was more so pointing out how bad it’s been with turnovers and how relatively good The d has played when you take it into account.
 
Fresh off the press!

TeamOCPPG vs P5 Teams
2016 MiamiRicht/Brown29.3
2017 MiamiRicht/Brown25.91
2018 MiamiRicht/Brown21.7
2019 MiamiEnos25.55
2020 MiamiLashlee34.3
2021 MiamiLashlee34
2022 MiamiGattis15.17

I'm going to do some research later this week to put into perspective how bad this offense is historically against other teams. If there's anyone who still wants Gattis around... why? At this point I don't know what value we get out of keeping Gattis around any longer.

TeamDCPPG vs P5 Teams
2016 MiamiDiaz21.8
2017 MiamiDiaz20.91
2018 MiamiDiaz21.2
2019 MiamiBaker/Banda23
2020 MiamiBaker/Banda28.3
2021 MiamiDiaz31.8
2022 MiamiSteele27.67

Obviously tonight was a bad night for Steele. We'll see how he does the rest of the season but today was not encouraging.
 
Canesrule230 said:
Fresh off the press!

TeamOCPPG vs P5 Teams
2016 MiamiRicht/Brown29.3
2017 MiamiRicht/Brown25.91
2018 MiamiRicht/Brown21.7
2019 MiamiEnos25.55
2020 MiamiLashlee34.3
2021 MiamiLashlee34
2022 MiamiGattis15.17

I'm going to do some research later this week to put into perspective how bad this offense is historically against other teams. If there's anyone who still wants Gattis around... why? At this point I don't know what value we get out of keeping Gattis around any longer.

TeamDCPPG vs P5 Teams
2016 MiamiDiaz21.8
2017 MiamiDiaz20.91
2018 MiamiDiaz21.2
2019 MiamiBaker/Banda23
2020 MiamiBaker/Banda28.3
2021 MiamiDiaz31.8
2022 MiamiSteele27.67

Obviously tonight was a bad night for Steele. We'll see how he does the rest of the season but today was not encouraging.
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Steele is goofy AF.. This guy got Tecory Couch playing LB against 2 TE?! Nothing else to see really..
 
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