Butch Davis - Haters cost us 4 crappy coaches

[5Rings&an Asterisk]

Butch had just signed a new contract and was perfectly happy with the salary of that contract and wanted to stay at Miami and had already told the team he was staying. the buyout clause became an issue because what Miami was offering was much lower than the standard buyout rate given to most coaches and considering what Butch had accomplished and done to save the program, what Miami was doing was a complete insult and deliberately disrespectful .... guess who was behind this bull**** ?

Stop rationalizing it. If Butch was so happy here and didn’t want to leave then the buyout should have been irrelevant. Butch’s goal was the NFL. There’s nothing wrong with that, so were several of the guys that were here before him, just be honest. Butch knew he was gone after winning a ring and was trying to protect his interest. You can’t get mad at the school for looking out for it’s own interest.

 

[JD08]

Money talks. I'll never begrudge Butch his opportunity to make more. Anyone here who says they wouldn't switch to more prestigious job with a 400% raise is a flat out liar. The powers that be were butthurt that he left the way he did and thus the long misery.

The messed up part is that the same people with questions about whether he could still be effective are the same people pushing an unproven Mario.

 

[Ammok]

The messed up part is that the same people with questions about whether he could still be effective are the same people pushing Coker, Shannon, Golden, Richt, Diaz and an unproven Mario.

FIFY

 

[Mico Jones]

BBB

Funny how our fans keep bashing the best coach we had in 30 years that built the most talented team in NCAA history. These same people were high fiving the CMR hire.

Plus he took the job under difficult circumstances that most up and coming ambitious coaches would avoid.

 

[UM is About Winning!]

So, Les Miles, Nick Saban, and Mack Brown are not too old to coach, but Butch Davis is because there is still a grudge that he supposedly left UM at the altar.

Then, let's try this scenario....So, if Lincoln Riley moves onto the Dallas Cowboys, the way Steven A. Smith has been discussing, Oklahoma wouldn't take back Bob Stoops, if he wanted to return? Of course OK would take back Stoops! The last time he won was in 2000.

Would be because he is 59 years of age,. as compared to Butch's 67 years? So, 8 years is what is precluding the greatest turnaround specialist in modern day college football to return to a job he is passionate about? Have some logic and reason

 

[Dwinstitles]

Money talks. I'll never begrudge Butch his opportunity to make more. Anyone here who says they wouldn't switch to more prestigious job with a 400% raise is a flat out liar. The powers that be were butthurt that he left the way he did and thus the long misery.

The messed up part is that the same people with questions about whether he could still be effective are the same people pushing an unproven Mario.

I don’t trust Mario,will UM splurge like a Oregon does? I doubt it very much

People said MD father is a politician and he will play the bag game, I said yeah the man has never landed an elite recruit in his life.

 

[PanamaCityCanes]

So, Les Miles, Nick Saban, and Mack Brown are not too old to coach, but Butch Davis is because there is still a grudge that he supposedly left UM at the altar.

Then, let's try this scenario....So, if Lincoln Riley moves onto the Dallas Cowboys, the way Steven A. Smith has been discussing, Oklahoma wouldn't take back Bob Stoops, if he wanted to return? Of course OK would take back Stoops! The last time he won was in 2000.

Would be because he is 59 years of age,. as compared to Butch's 67 years? So, 8 years is what is precluding the greatest turnaround specialist in modern day college football to return to a job he is passionate about? Have some logic and reason

2000????? Bob Stoops was winning 11 games in 2016. That was three years ago. Butch's last impressive season was literally in 2000.

FYI, if he was the greatest turnaround specialist in modern day college football, wouldn't he be, you know, turning a a program around somewhere?

 

[Johnson3]

Butch is very close to Saban....Saban has always mentioned he coaches with a BD Philosophy....

Show me one quote where Saban says he coaches with a Butch Davis philosophy. That sounds like unbelievable BS.

Let me guess- you’re going to claim you personally know Saban and say that he told you that.

 

[SWFLHurricane]

Show me one quote where Saban says he coaches with a Butch Davis philosophy. That sounds like unbelievable BS.

Let me guess- you’re going to claim you personally know Saban and say that he told you that.

No but I'm personal friends with Butch for 24yrs...

 

[PanamaCityCanes]

Show me one quote where Saban says he coaches with a Butch Davis philosophy. That sounds like unbelievable BS.

Let me guess- you’re going to claim you personally know Saban and say that he told you that.

For real. Nick Saban coaches with a Nick Saban philosophy. Maybe Butch should try that instead of the other way around.

 

[Johnson3]

I typed “Nick Saban Butch Davis philosophy” into google, and couldn’t find a single relevant result.

 

[Johnson3]

That would be an great hire.....coach with a losing record the last 4 seasons..................GREAT HIRE

Babers is not a good coach. He had one good year last year, but has looked bad the rest of his career. Including this year.

 

[kryptonite]

I really don't get it.

And here we are.

Hope you Butch haters are enjoying this. If only . . .

They may be enjoying it, but not half as much as you are. You have such a boner for telling people how right you were and how wrong they were. Which would be annoying enough if there were literally any proof of what you say. I guess it's possible he might have done something if we'd hired him after Coker, but with each passing year if becomes more obvious that things have passed him by. There's been literally no reason to consider him except he used to coach here. Might as well go camp out at Howard's house and beg him to come back.

Bottom line doing well 20 years ago doesn't mean you'd do well now, and our HC sucking doesn't mean some other guy is better. Manny had to be better than Richt who had to be better than al...

 

[UMFarArcher]

I really don't get it.

They may be enjoying it, but not half as much as you are. You have such a boner for telling people how right you were and how wrong they were. Which would be annoying enough if there were literally any proof of what you say. I guess it's possible he might have done something if we'd hired him after Coker, but with each passing year if becomes more obvious that things have passed him by. There's been literally no reason to consider him except he used to coach here. Might as well go camp out at Howard's house and beg him to come back.

Bottom line doing well 20 years ago doesn't mean you'd do well now, and our HC sucking doesn't mean some other guy is better. Manny had to be better than Richt who had to be better than al...

Yeah, well, when you're right - you're right. Don't mind bringing it up again and again as I listen to our fourth round of buyer's remorse from the very clever guys.

And I'll go you one better - these hot, young coaches - they've PROVEN their "fresh, new, sanitized, revolutionary" approaches to coaching will do diddly-schitt, either.

So, given a choice between a proven man - and an unproven man - one has to be fully retarded to go with the unproven man.

I enjoy the outright stupidity of youth - Manny, Golden, Radar, and even Richt - never learned the most important rule in life.

"Never start believing your own boulschitt."

 

[UMFarArcher]

2000????? Bob Stoops was winning 11 games in 2016. That was three years ago. Butch's last impressive season was literally in 2000.

FYI, if he was the greatest turnaround specialist in modern day college football, wouldn't he be, you know, turning a a program around somewhere?

When he was terminated from UNC - he was paid - and paid well - to sit on his butt. Then he picked up some coin as a commentator. He'd turned around the UNC program - and then got screwed his last season there - a sacrifice to hopefully head off the NCAA sanctions - which Butch had nothing to do with.

What if - what if - he didn't want to coach for others - that offered him? What if he was comfortable? I know for a fact that when JJ left Dallas - he could have gotten another coaching job - but he didn't.

I don't see everyone jumping on our other coaches - for their own lack of success they reached at UM. Why is that? Howard as good as said - I screwed up. Cinderella never got to go to the ball again.

 

[Southcane]

If you guys think Butch would have done worse (with the talent we had) than last 4 coaches we had............ you need your heads to be examined.

 

[mirednmediocrity2]

BOT didn’t want him

BOT allowed the orange bowl to get torn down

BOT want your money but don’t give a god**** about winning football

BOT doesn’t care about academics, either. We are now tied in that category with Free Shoes.
BOT needs to be investigated.

 

[kryptonite]

Yeah, well, when you're right - you're right. Don't mind bringing it up again and again as I listen to our fourth round of buyer's remorse from the very clever guys.

And I'll go you one better - these hot, young coaches - they've PROVEN their "fresh, new, sanitized, revolutionary" approaches to coaching will do diddly-schitt, either.

So, given a choice between a proven man - and an unproven man - one has to be fully retarded to go with the unproven man.

I enjoy the outright stupidity of youth - Manny, Golden, Radar, and even Richt - never learned the most important rule in life.

"Never start believing your own boulschitt."

The problem with the "proven" man is that either he's proven to be what we want but doesn't want this job or he wants the job but hasn't proven he can do what we want.

 

[PanamaCityCanes]

When he was terminated from UNC - he was paid - and paid well - to sit on his butt. Then he picked up some coin as a commentator. He'd turned around the UNC program - and then got screwed his last season there - a sacrifice to hopefully head off the NCAA sanctions - which Butch had nothing to do with.

What if - what if - he didn't want to coach for others - that offered him? What if he was comfortable? I know for a fact that when JJ left Dallas - he could have gotten another coaching job - but he didn't.

I don't see everyone jumping on our other coaches - for their own lack of success they reached at UM. Why is that? Howard as good as said - I screwed up. Cinderella never got to go to the ball again.

Right, we don't need a competitor, we need a guy who has been content sitting on his butt.

 

[ItsAUThing.com]

And here we are.

Hope you Butch haters are enjoying this. If only . . .

I wanted Butch back in 2016 when Mark Richt was hired—but even that might've been too little, too late. The real time to bring him back was post-Coker, but North Carolina hired him right before LC was let go.

Butch Davis would be 69 years old during the 2020 football season. Bringing him back for what would be a 3-5 year rebuild ... that's rough. Conversely, he was late 50's when he was hired by the Tar Heels and still in his prime.

Cut a lot of corners recruiting the way he did in Chapel Hill—and no way he could recruit at Miami the way he did 20 years ago; different time and place.

Also tough for a guy to come back to a place he once had success—duplicating that. Anything short of what he pulled last go-around—which is what he would be judged by—would be brutal to accomplish.

The shame is that Butch ever left in the first place—as well as burning bridges the way he did when he bailed out. He's admitted that if he could do it all over again, he would've stayed—and Miami would've been in great hands for years to come, as Larry couldn't handle the gig.

Honestly, blame Butch more than the "Butch haters" as (1) he left the program when he shouldn't have and (2) he burned bridges in a way the admin and BOT soured on his *** in a way they wouldn't take him back.