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Bruce Feldman - The College Football Playoff rankings reveal has become a clown show by any metric

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coffeecane said:
There is an enormous push to flip them. Not sure they will but this is getting into credibility and the national narrative is to flip them. Go raiders.
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I'm still having a hard time finding any credible college football media people(besides NBC people) have had made a case for ND to stay ahead... hopefully i'm not in an echo chamber/bias bubble of just getting fed to me..

have you seen any?
 
coffeecane said:
If the Times and Trump both agree on something...well just sayin.
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I wish I could write a comment to the idiot ND fans in the comment section that refer to the Louisville and SMU losses as reasons ND should be ahead of Miami.

Have they ever heard of a football organization called the National Football League (NFL for short in case they are only familiar with the abbreviated version)? It happens to be a professional football league where players play football as their primary occupation. In that league, teams have a 16 game schedule- sometimes they play a 1 win team , sometimes they might play an undefeated team. And you know what happens if two teams are competing for a playoff spot and one team has two losses to the two worst teams in the league but a win over the other potential playoff team, and the other team has only two early season losses- one to the other potential playoff team and the other a close loss to an undefeated opponent, and then won 14 in a row? Absolutely no one gives a **** about the winning streak or if one team lost to bad teams during the season. The tiebreaker is always head to head wins- as it is in literally every other sport.

Yet apparently Notre Dame fans think the college football should be the one sport where there is no objective standard and teams should be picked for the post season based on an arbitrary and capricious “eyeball test.” Well that is interesting. You see- they base their argument for getting in over Miami on the Canes losing to two 8 win teams. Those are “bad losses” in their justification. And bad losses means teams should be penalized. And yet there was a cfb team last year that had the worst loss of any playoff contender. They lost at home to Northern Illinois. That single loss is far more embarrassing and disqualifying than two losses to 8-4 teams. But that team still ended up being seeded higher than other teams with far less embarrassing losses. Surely, these Notre Dame fans would agree that the team with the home loss to Northern Illinois should have put them at the back of the line for making the playoffs. They have to admit that team had the luck of the Irish - and a highly biased playoff committee - to have ignored such an ignominious loss.
 
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The great hypocrisy in all this is that if the tables were flipped, ND and fans would be absolutely outraged (and rightfully so). They're trying to justify their position now because they know deep down they lost the H2H, but they're a bunch of spoiled snobs who think they're above the rules. And thus far, the committee is affirming their beliefs.
 
Yoyo423 said:
I'm still having a hard time finding any credible college football media people(besides NBC people) have had made a case for ND to stay ahead... hopefully i'm not in an echo chamber/bias bubble of just getting fed to me..

have you seen any?
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legitimately - no

EVERYONE from On3 (some whom I think are clowns but besides the point)
Josh Pate
Joel Klatt
Greg Mcelroy
Crain & Co
lead Sports Illustrated writers
Bruce F ^
"most" major TV people (from what I've seen online)


all of the above are legitimate football people (particularly in comparison to the ret@rds on the committee.

I don't wanna set myself up for disappointment but... the above *seems* on the undeniable Miami IN trajectory (provided BYU loss).


I personally think if BYU and Bama loses, they drop each team one place - ND up to #9 and Bama in at #10 and we're left out

Miami in? BIWISI
 
BoludoCane21 said:
legitimately - no

EVERYONE from On3 (some whom I think are clowns but besides the point)
Josh Pate
Joel Klatt
Greg Mcelroy
Crain & Co
lead Sports Illustrated writers
Bruce F ^
"most" major TV people (from what I've seen online)


all of the above are legitimate football people (particularly in comparison to the ret@rds on the committee.

I don't wanna set myself up for disappointment but... the above *seems* on the undeniable Miami IN trajectory (provided BYU loss).


I personally think if BYU and Bama loses, they drop each team one place - ND up to #9 and Bama in at #10 and we're left out

Miami in? BIWISI
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You forgot our favorite Paul finebaum
 
BoludoCane21 said:
legitimately - no

EVERYONE from On3 (some whom I think are clowns but besides the point)
Josh Pate
Joel Klatt
Greg Mcelroy
Crain & Co
lead Sports Illustrated writers
Bruce F ^
"most" major TV people (from what I've seen online)


all of the above are legitimate football people (particularly in comparison to the ret@rds on the committee.

I don't wanna set myself up for disappointment but... the above *seems* on the undeniable Miami IN trajectory (provided BYU loss).


I personally think if BYU and Bama loses, they drop each team one place - ND up to #9 and Bama in at #10 and we're left out

Miami in? BIWISI
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I said it a few times in a couple different threads- the downstream effects will be immense and costly to the tv networks if committee ignores H2H. ESPN has to know this and be telling Yurachek he has to flip Miami and ND.

No AD with a brain cell will schedule big OOC games. Just focus on conference games early and win streaks before the first playoff rankings are released. Two years in a row Miami screwed itself by losing just before the first playoff rankings. That initial rank is by far the most critical. That’s the snapshot the committee seems to use to say whether passing the eyeball test, and if you start too far behind you will never catch up. It’s funny- people keep saying we can’t ever get into the playoffs going 10-2. Wrong. Committee has firmly established that when you lose is more important than if you lose. If we had lost to GT and Syracuse in game 1-2 last year , then reeled off 6 wins in a row against 3 more conference opponents and 3 cupcakes by 30+ pts, I guarantee we would have been ranked higher in the initial playoff rankings and would have got in as an at large.
 
Handsome Squidbum said:
I said it a few times in a couple different threads- the downstream effects will be immense and costly to the tv networks if committee ignores H2H. ESPN has to know this and be telling Yurachek he has to flip Miami and ND.

No AD with a brain cell will schedule big OOC games. Just focus on conference games early and win streaks before the first playoff rankings are released. Two years in a row Miami screwed itself by losing just before the first playoff rankings. That initial rank is by far the most critical. That’s the snapshot the committee seems to use to say whether passing the eyeball test, and if you start too far behind you will never catch up. It’s funny- people keep saying we can’t ever get into the playoffs going 10-2. Wrong. Committee has firmly established that when you lose is more important than if you lose. If we had lost to GT and Syracuse in game 1-2 last year , then reeled off 6 wins in a row against 3 more conference opponents and 3 cupcakes by 30+ pts, I guarantee we would have been ranked higher in the initial playoff rankings and would have got in as an at large.
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I think when you win matters, unless it is head to head. Losing early is always preferable to losing late. Look at FSU /ND in 1993. ND really got screwed there. That was in a time when it was a hard fast rule you could not lose late. In our case we were stumbling mid season and changed our offense, as the committee said we needed to do, and also stepped up on D. We were given a homework assignment for the final 4 games and got a 100 all the way down to the final throttling of Pitt. I said before the game that was the committee's worst nightmare. They want ND so bad they cant get themselves to see the teams are both playing at a high level. They just want ND in because they like them, head to head be damned.
 
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Probably an unpopular opinion amongst fellow Cane fans and alums, but I have no problem with ND being one of the 12 playoff teams as long we are part of the dance. If anything, what I find galling is the number of SEC teams in the playoffs and the manipulation done all year to ensure they get so many of their teams in this contest. This, I find disgusting.
 
MedleyCane said:
Probably an unpopular opinion amongst fellow Cane fans and alums, but I have no problem with ND being one of the 12 playoff teams as long we are part of the dance. If anything, what I find galling is the number of SEC teams in the playoffs and the manipulation done all year to ensure they get so many of their teams in this contest. This, I find disgusting.
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I do not disagree.

Either we both we both get in or Miami gets in but it cannot just be the Catholics.
 
MedleyCane said:
Probably an unpopular opinion amongst fellow Cane fans and alums, but I have no problem with ND being one of the 12 playoff teams as long we are part of the dance. If anything, what I find galling is the number of SEC teams in the playoffs and the manipulation done all year to ensure they get so many of their teams in this contest. This, I find disgusting.
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most won't disagree with you.... we should be ahead of ND... and most would agree, ND over BYU and even Bama....
 
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