Bruce Feldman Says a Loss to UL puts Golden on THE HOT SEAT

[DJWilliams55]

If the admin thinks we could go 11-1 with ease, they aren't living in reality. Getting to 9 with this schedule would be an achievement and getting to 8 practically requires a win at Louisville.

There is more or less no realistic path at all to 11 or even 10. If he is pimping a possible 11 win team he's digging his own grave because there is no way they can almost run the table. The reality is this could be a very good football team and STILL have 2 losses at the end of September.

In fact, a couple bad bounces and this thing could easily go off the rails by early October. There's only like 3 or 4 sure wins on this schedule and I'm including Pitt there. All the rest should be competitive non-blowouts and are susceptible to an especially good coaching job by the opponent negating a moderate talent advantage for Miami.

Goldens problem is by the end of the season he is going to have to argue that this team is better than last year (and it very likely is much better than last year) even though we finished with 1 or 2 less wins than last year. At 1 win less, he can prolly survive, at 2 less, it is a lot murkier.

Seriously, it is VERY easy to come up with some plausible combination of 5 losses from this schedule. It doesn't require bending over backwards at all.

FSU, VT, UL, NEBRASKA, GT (since it's over there), DUKE and UNC could all be lose able games and CINCY could be a battle.

 

[stoopid311]

While I disagree with Feldman, you guys seem to be taking "hot seat" and making it "should be fired". They're not synonymous.

 

[Miami82]

While I disagree with Feldman, you guys seem to be taking "hot seat" and making it "should be fired". They're not synonymous.

Losing to UL won't get him fired if he finishes the rest of the season strong. I think most are saying there is a big difference between losing a close game and losing like we did in the bowl. That's my take anyway.

 

[The Franchise]

Great recruiting + bad head coaching = Ron Zook.

All the dudes who only care about recruiting need to realize at some point within 4 years you need to see that recruiting prowess pay off on the football field.

Agreed. And, I'm still not sold on Golden as a great recruiter. Good recruiter, yeah. Thus far, good recruiter + bad coaching = Al Golden

Good point. I'm not sold on him being a great recruiter either.

 

[The Franchise]

Antwan, are you stalking me. Sorry dude, I don't swing that way. Great coaches will do more with less moron. You might as well post to your name, I'm new to CFB. Other than it is obvious.

You're the reason why there should be a qualifying test to post on message boards. You really think that coaches are judged by their less-talented years. Let's put it this way.......Nick Saban is a Hall of Famer because he won championships, not because he was somewhat competitive when the talent was down. But you don't get that.

Didn't he lose to Louisiana Monroe in his first year?

Exactly. But Miami82 judges coaches when they have less talent.

That was certainly less with less

Anyone want to look up Saban's record at Mich St his first few years? Wasn't all that impressive

Saban can't carry Dantonio's jock strap if you compare what each guy did at MSU.

 

[The Franchise]

If the admin thinks we could go 11-1 with ease, they aren't living in reality. Getting to 9 with this schedule would be an achievement and getting to 8 practically requires a win at Louisville.

There is more or less no realistic path at all to 11 or even 10. If he is pimping a possible 11 win team he's digging his own grave because there is no way they can almost run the table. The reality is this could be a very good football team and STILL have 2 losses at the end of September.

In fact, a couple bad bounces and this thing could easily go off the rails by early October. There's only like 3 or 4 sure wins on this schedule and I'm including Pitt there. All the rest should be competitive non-blowouts and are susceptible to an especially good coaching job by the opponent negating a moderate talent advantage for Miami.

Goldens problem is by the end of the season he is going to have to argue that this team is better than last year (and it very likely is much better than last year) even though we finished with 1 or 2 less wins than last year. At 1 win less, he can prolly survive, at 2 less, it is a lot murkier.

Seriously, it is VERY easy to come up with some plausible combination of 5 losses from this schedule. It doesn't require bending over backwards at all.

FSU, VT, UL, NEBRASKA, GT (since it's over there), DUKE and UNC could all be lose able games and CINCY could be a battle.

There's no possible way you can spin that UM could have a "very good team" (your words) and have 2 loses in September. Impossible. We aren't even playing any "very good" opponents in September.

 

[demcanes26]

If the admin thinks we could go 11-1 with ease, they aren't living in reality. Getting to 9 with this schedule would be an achievement and getting to 8 practically requires a win at Louisville.

There is more or less no realistic path at all to 11 or even 10. If he is pimping a possible 11 win team he's digging his own grave because there is no way they can almost run the table. The reality is this could be a very good football team and STILL have 2 losses at the end of September.

In fact, a couple bad bounces and this thing could easily go off the rails by early October. There's only like 3 or 4 sure wins on this schedule and I'm including Pitt there. All the rest should be competitive non-blowouts and are susceptible to an especially good coaching job by the opponent negating a moderate talent advantage for Miami.

Goldens problem is by the end of the season he is going to have to argue that this team is better than last year (and it very likely is much better than last year) even though we finished with 1 or 2 less wins than last year. At 1 win less, he can prolly survive, at 2 less, it is a lot murkier.

Seriously, it is VERY easy to come up with some plausible combination of 5 losses from this schedule. It doesn't require bending over backwards at all.

FSU, VT, UL, NEBRASKA, GT (since it's over there), DUKE and UNC could all be lose able games and CINCY could be a battle.

There's no possible way you can spin that UM could have a "very good team" (your words) and have 2 loses in September. Impossible. We aren't even playing any "very good" opponents in September.

If Heaps win the job, Miami will have 18 JR and SR starters, plus 3 SO starters that we believe have great potential. AQM, Coley and Isidora. If Al Golden only win 7 games he deserves to be fired.

 

[DJWilliams55]

If the admin thinks we could go 11-1 with ease, they aren't living in reality. Getting to 9 with this schedule would be an achievement and getting to 8 practically requires a win at Louisville.

There is more or less no realistic path at all to 11 or even 10. If he is pimping a possible 11 win team he's digging his own grave because there is no way they can almost run the table. The reality is this could be a very good football team and STILL have 2 losses at the end of September.

In fact, a couple bad bounces and this thing could easily go off the rails by early October. There's only like 3 or 4 sure wins on this schedule and I'm including Pitt there. All the rest should be competitive non-blowouts and are susceptible to an especially good coaching job by the opponent negating a moderate talent advantage for Miami.

Goldens problem is by the end of the season he is going to have to argue that this team is better than last year (and it very likely is much better than last year) even though we finished with 1 or 2 less wins than last year. At 1 win less, he can prolly survive, at 2 less, it is a lot murkier.

Seriously, it is VERY easy to come up with some plausible combination of 5 losses from this schedule. It doesn't require bending over backwards at all.

FSU, VT, UL, NEBRASKA, GT (since it's over there), DUKE and UNC could all be lose able games and CINCY could be a battle.

There's no possible way you can spin that UM could have a "very good team" (your words) and have 2 loses in September. Impossible. We aren't even playing any "very good" opponents in September.

They have road games at UL and at Nebraska and they have a good Duke team coming to Miami. All three could be good back and forth games between two good clubs goin at it and with the way the ball bounces, Miami could win 1 and lose 2. They could also win 2 and lose 1. It is a stretch to say they could win all 3. I think winning at Nebraska will be difficult. But there is a very thin line between 1-1 or 2-0 in the other two games. I don't think we will lose all 3.

But this is a tough opening month with a lot of 50/50 contests.

 

[bomb]

The program would really have to regress for AG to be on the hot seat. He's steadily improved things incrementally each year all while we had the death penalty hovering over us. We've only known our fate for far less than a year now, and we're currently on probation and under scholarship restrictions. We've also given up bowl and ACCCG games which hurt recruiting. With all that, which he inherited and didn't cause, and everything he's endured, he's going to have a long *** leash. The recent rash of recruiting commitments is going to help his case as well. Honestly, I think we're a lot closer to "lucky to have him" than he is from the "hot seat" right now.

His defense has been historically bad the last two years. If it doesn't improve, he should be firmly on the hot seat. End of story.

I don't care about recruiting and the Cloud and all that, there is no excuse for the defense being as bad as it has been.

I agree. But I am just saying that his job isn't going to be in jeopardy. You don't make the hires and fires at the U. None of us do. He is going to have a long leash because of what's transpired and because he has improved the program, especially on the talent front. Can we take another step forward this year? I hope so.

 

[bomb]

Great recruiting + bad head coaching = Ron Zook.

All the dudes who only care about recruiting need to realize at some point within 4 years you need to see that recruiting prowess pay off on the football field.

Agreed. And, I'm still not sold on Golden as a great recruiter. Good recruiter, yeah. Thus far, good recruiter + bad coaching = Al Golden

Dynasty, what's good, sir?!?!

Onto your point, couldn't that have been said about Butch around 1998 or 1999? I know some will hate to hear this, but this story still has to be written in regards to Golden. Wasn't Butch oh-and-10 in his first five years vs FSU and Vatech? When the players got better, suddenly so did his success as a coach

Bottom line, the quality of players matters and all indications are that Golden is improving the material he has to work with

This roster still isnt complete, but just look at the upgrade at defensive back from the time he got here. Yes, other positions( like DT) are lagging behind but I think it's hard to argue that this staff hasn't upgraded the talent across the board

But regardless, it's time he starts putting up results in the W and L column

We are deep and very good at a lot of positions.
But he has failed at recruiting DTs
And we have a battle bn a third school transfer and true freshman at qb. And all of us are praying our Memphis transfer comes back quick from an acl tear.
I wouldn't call that across the board.

Not that it changes your overall point but does anyone really care if Ryan Williams comes back? He's pretty much irrelevant now that Heaps is here and given Kaaya's strong performance this summer.

What is going to be really interesting is the Williams/Heaps battle for 2nd string. It really was a close race with Heaps and HBK. Waters said he thought Heaps was going to get it. How good is HBK? Better than Williams right now? I hope so. Because I was not excited about Williams at QB this year. Low ceiling IMO.

 

[arcane]

Turning this around, I'd say a win at Louisville pretty much guarantees Golden will be here until his current contract ends in 2019.

 

[weownfsu]

Turning this around, I'd say a win at Louisville pretty much guarantees Golden will be here until his current contract ends in 2019.

 

[Angry Ibis]

Turning this around, I'd say a win at Louisville pretty much guarantees Golden will be here until his current contract ends in 2019.

Holy ****. I don't know what scares me more that ******* face or that someone thinks a Louisville win = 2019.

 

[NateDogg]

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[Insanecane]

I see this team at yet another mediocre 7-5. And that is being generous.

It is not unrealistic to think we could have a worse record that that, especially if the team mails it in after getting blown out again at Nebraska, then by FSU, VT, and Duke.

 

[miamifan007]

 

[miamifan007]

Probably not. Neither will a loss to Nebraska. But not winning the Coastal outright this year SHOULD.

He should be fired if we don't make it to the ACCCG this year.

 

[cf3000]

Probably not. Neither will a loss to Nebraska. But not winning the Coastal outright this year SHOULD.

He should be fired if we don't make it to the ACCCG this year.

It's going to be tough as it is now. We already have 2 losses in the conference, unless someone thinks we have a chance vs FSU. Then we have to win every game in the coastal. We've never done that, obviously.

 

[nycane]

i dont get it. goldens 1st year aside from BC game, we played everyone close.

 

[NVA CANE]

i dont get it. goldens 1st year aside from BC game, we played everyone close.

Went 6-6 that year. Under a competent staff that would have been a 10 win season.