Bruce Feldman Says a Loss to UL puts Golden on THE HOT SEAT

[maurice3p]

@schadjoe: University of Louisville senior wide receiver Devante Parker suffered a left foot injury at practice.

Miami wins 31-7

 

[niner]

Didn't know where to put this, but the USA Today's Paul Myerberg reported just a moment ago...

@PaulMyerberg: Uh oh. Louisville says potential AA WR Devante Parker suffered a foot injury at practice Friday night. Severity unknown.

He wont experience the beat-down we bout to give his boys

 

[The Franchise]

So Golden is not on the hot seat now, but if he loses a game roughly half this board expects him to lose, then he is on the hot seat?

just not buying it

Not saying the seat shouldn't be warm, just not buying a loss at UL lights the match.

Not sure where you are getting those numbers from. Most think he should win this game.

I didn't say they think he should lose, I said they expect him to.

Those who expect him to lose expect him to lose because they think he sucks and isn't qualified to be UM's HC. They don't expect him to lose because they think UL should be a better program than UM.

 

[The Franchise]

@schadjoe: University of Louisville senior wide receiver Devante Parker suffered a left foot injury at practice.

Miami wins 31-7

Petrino should have given them the day off like Al did. Advantage Al.

 

[WhatTheHell]

This is so idiotic.

If Golden proves he's not the guy this season, you do not retain him. Period. I don't give a **** if, in YOUR mind, there's as small as a 1% chance of finding the right guy, that's still 1% more than what we would have with a proven failure as a coach.

This line of thinking is so bizarre.

Well that's the real issue. What "proves" he's not the guy? Losing to UL? To you and the other hot heads, you were convinced last year he's not the guy. To a lot of us though, its not that simple. Losing to UL is not going to "prove" anything to me. How we play the season is what is going to show me something. If this defense can show major improvement, if it looks like whatever this guy claims he's been trying to do is finally starting to come together, and with the talent he's lining up, yeah, I can give the guy another year to see if it finally clicks.

The problem here, is that we are not going to have a consensus here. We are GOING to lose games. So barring one of two extremes taking place this season, either a total collapse, or one of these QBs gets hot, the Defense clicks and we suddenly catch fire and make an unexpected major run, we are likely to still be having this argument come next January.

LMAO at "hot heads." He gets slayed by good teams and his teams **** themselves in big games. As of today, there's more overwhelming evidence that he's not than guy, than there is indicated he is the answer.

He needs to win the Coastal this season. He's been here 4 seasons. His classes are better than what VT, UNC, and Duke brought in over that time.

You have posters on here saying this is Miami's most talented roster in 10 years. If he can't win the Coastal with it, we've seen enough. You don't let some guy hang around hoping he can prove himself. Again, you guys seem to forget this is big time college football, not some local rec league.

 

[Angry Ibis]

So Golden is not on the hot seat now, but if he loses a game roughly half this board expects him to lose, then he is on the hot seat?

just not buying it

Not saying the seat shouldn't be warm, just not buying a loss at UL lights the match.

Not sure where you are getting those numbers from. Most think he should win this game.

I didn't say they think he should lose, I said they expect him to.

Those who expect him to lose expect him to lose because they think he sucks and isn't qualified to be UM's HC. They don't expect him to lose because they think UL should be a better program than UM.

I know exactly why they expect him to lose.

There is a difference in losing the fans vs. the team, and also losing the fans vs. the administration.

He won't lose any after one game.
- he already lost the fans
- administration won't react after one game
- teams don't lose faith one game into a season

He has to win games to stick around. Losing the Louisville game will not create the drama many are starting in here.

 

[Miami82]

James and Shalala love Golden

Plus he is setting us up to be elite in 2015 and beyond....he's not going anywhere

To be elite, you have to have coaches that can out x and o other teams. We do not have that on this staff.

I tend to agree with this. We've had issues on defense since Golden arrived. It's his defense. So far it's been a major liability. Coley isn't innovative it seems, but it's only year two. He needs a triggerman. I want to believe Kaaya is that man. We didn't touch the middle of field with Morris, so there is hope for Coley.

Agreed, Coley was handcuffed with Morris. The 3 games I went to last year was frustrating with Morris not taking what the D was giving him.

This year will be rough as well with a Frosh, but what an ideal situation to walk into with the talent on the O. If the O-line is just decent we should be putting up 35 a game.

 

[Miami82]

So Golden is not on the hot seat now, but if he loses a game roughly half this board expects him to lose, then he is on the hot seat?

just not buying it

Not saying the seat shouldn't be warm, just not buying a loss at UL lights the match.

Not sure where you are getting those numbers from. Most think he should win this game.

I didn't say they think he should lose, I said they expect him to.

Those who expect him to lose expect him to lose because they think he sucks and isn't qualified to be UM's HC. They don't expect him to lose because they think UL should be a better program than UM.

I know exactly why they expect him to lose.

There is a difference in losing the fans vs. the team, and also losing the fans vs. the administration.

He won't lose any after one game.
- he already lost the fans
- administration won't react after one game
- teams don't lose faith one game into a season

He has to win games to stick around. Losing the Louisville game will not create the drama many are starting in here.

You are kidding yourself AI if he loses this game like he did the bowl game. Now I don't think that will happen, but if it did it would play out bad for him.

 

[INCaneFan]

Feldman is now getting ripped on a Miami board? When did pigs start flying or he'll freeze over?

 

[Angry Ibis]

Not sure where you are getting those numbers from. Most think he should win this game.

I didn't say they think he should lose, I said they expect him to.

Those who expect him to lose expect him to lose because they think he sucks and isn't qualified to be UM's HC. They don't expect him to lose because they think UL should be a better program than UM.

I know exactly why they expect him to lose.

There is a difference in losing the fans vs. the team, and also losing the fans vs. the administration.

He won't lose any after one game.
- he already lost the fans
- administration won't react after one game
- teams don't lose faith one game into a season

He has to win games to stick around. Losing the Louisville game will not create the drama many are starting in here.

You are kidding yourself AI if he loses this game like he did the bowl game. Now I don't think that will happen, but if it did it would play out bad for him.

So you mean CIS and other Cane websites will be flooded with anti-Golden rhetoric and upheaval? Former players and local coaches and media will hate on him?

 

[SmokeyRone]

Why are "The people who give money to the program" stupid enough to want Golden if Labor Day is Russell Bowl Part Duex? I'd then say said folks want the program to fail, and we don't need that kinda money.

I predict an empty stadium for FAMU and Arky St. if so. Those must be big donations if the butts in the seats have no say.

And if any of you think a 2-2 Canes team is gonna muster 30,000 for Duke, then you are taking the pot.

Winning is the answer for Golden. Losing early and often and he is fin.

 

[Angry Ibis]

Why are "The people who give money to the program" stupid enough to want Golden if Labor Day is Russell Bowl Part Duex? I'd then say said folks want the program to fail, and we don't need that kinda money.

I predict an empty stadium for FAMU and Arky St. if so. Those must be big donations if the butts in the seats have no say.

And if any of you think a 2-2 Canes team is gonna muster 30,000 for Duke, then you are taking the pot.

Winning is the answer for Golden. Losing early and often and he is fin.

You expect a full house with a win at Louisville?

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

The seat is neither hot nor cold right now. It is a weird in between state of flux. In the opinion of the admin, if he loses to Louisville in a respectable showing (10 points or less) his seat will barely start to warm up. If he gets his brain bashed in like the Russell Athletic Bowl, the seat will officially be classified as warm. The Board of Trustees in particular wants to win immediately. Getting embarrassed on national TV again will melt away their already waning faith. While I hope/expect a 34-31 Miami win, if we assume the team loses, margin of defeat and quality of play will be the most closely analyzed factor rather than just the score alone.

President Shalala was ****ed about Penn State. It made her look incompetent. Her employee was MIA and not responding to the school. I've said it before and I'll say it again but her quote of, "We don't know anything yet." to the media about 5 hours after Blake James said he was chit chatting with Al regularly should tell you all you need to know.

The admin loved Golden. LOVED him. They gave him the world while here, by their standards, and he dealt with the NCAA during that saga. Penn State was viewed as a betrayal by them. The unity that they thought they had developed was tarnished. The office, both the athletic office and academic office, was flooded with bashing Al Golden emails when he came back. In Miami history, coaches that have left since we've been The U have either been pro football bound or fired. For Golden to look at another college job, alma mater or not, after getting the sweetest, highest paying contract for a football coach in school history, and getting placed on a pedestal after winning nothing was infuriating to many.

The admin knows the team is good enough to win 11 games with relative ease. Golden has personally pumped up how great the team is to them with quality, highly sought after players at every position. Questions at various positions including OL and QB mean nothing to the admin. Every team has questions and they know he was supposed to, by his own analysis, have above average talent at both positions. The man in charge told them how good the team is going to be this year. Therefore, the admin expects to win this year and win big. He talked a big game. They think it's time for him to deliver. Many people on here are pretty split on whether he will or wont.

Assuming the season does tank, fan response would be a major contributor as to whether Golden was retained. A lot of boosters were enraged about Penn State. These boosters are fans of the University of Miami first and foremost and it appeared to them that Golden made the school look bad in favor of an inferior institution in Penn State. Golden still has some important, high profile people on his side, but they want wins now. Season ticket sales be damned. If people stop going if the season tanks, which I hope it doesn't, and there is a USF like showing for the Pittsburgh game, the fanbase is clearly unhappy and the sports admin will have to act. The fans have dictated team direction. Coker was fired when we wanted him fired. Shannon was fired when we wanted him fired. Golden will go the same route when he loses the fans completely. And so far, the fans have been right in these scenarios.

Whoever said that finding another coach would be difficult is full of it and should go root for another team. This is and should be a destination job, not a stepping stone. When Golden was missing, multiple coaches and outstanding coaches at that were inquiring about the position. This is very different from past coaching changes. Nobody wanted to replace Shannon because talent was thin and expectations unfair. If anything would scare coaches away, it would be the firing of Coker with his 59-15 record, national championship, and high graduation rates. From the admin's perspective, they are dedicated to winning, a point many people here debate. They just pumped in $40,000,000 to upgrade the facilities and make us competitive recruiting wise. The buyout would not stunt that amount of money. Do you think a school with limited financial resources is going to invest that much while having a coach that isn't winning and fans have lost faith in? If so, then I guess the admin isn't dedicated to winning, which I can tell you is an outright falsehood. Furthermore, the admin doesn't feel we would be starting over. This isn't Shannon taking over for Coker where talent was thin or Golden taking over for Shannon where talent was even thinner. The roster is stacked, almost top to bottom, with an enormous amount of talent. 2015 is satisfactory to most and 2016 is ridiculously good. While early, many in the admin believe the class could be maintained enough with certain delicate changes.

People making the Butch comparisons with banners and records need to stop. The situations aren't even close to similar.

So I'll say it again. Golden is on a neutral, room temperature seat right now. Losing to Louisville wont heat it up anymore than a rough loss would. Getting blown out, again, would be giving it some noticeable warmth. But the admin is cautiously optimistic that this season will be an overwhelming success, as they should be. They expect wins this year and they think that Al Golden will deliver them this year.

 

[theibisrules]

Why are "The people who give money to the program" stupid enough to want Golden if Labor Day is Russell Bowl Part Duex? I'd then say said folks want the program to fail, and we don't need that kinda money.

I predict an empty stadium for FAMU and Arky St. if so. Those must be big donations if the butts in the seats have no say.

And if any of you think a 2-2 Canes team is gonna muster 30,000 for Duke, then you are taking the pot.

Winning is the answer for Golden. Losing early and often and he is fin.

You expect a full house with a win at Louisville?

Was it a full house after we beat Florida?

 

[SmokeyRone]

No, but we are talking Radio, 2010 USF attendance early if it is Russell Bowl 2.0. And you know it.

 

[Angry Ibis]

Why are "The people who give money to the program" stupid enough to want Golden if Labor Day is Russell Bowl Part Duex? I'd then say said folks want the program to fail, and we don't need that kinda money.

I predict an empty stadium for FAMU and Arky St. if so. Those must be big donations if the butts in the seats have no say.

And if any of you think a 2-2 Canes team is gonna muster 30,000 for Duke, then you are taking the pot.

Winning is the answer for Golden. Losing early and often and he is fin.

You expect a full house with a win at Louisville?

Was it a full house after we beat Florida?

No.

 

[Angry Ibis]

No, but we are talking Radio, 2010 USF attendance early if it is Russell Bowl 2.0. And you know it.

That also happens when you play FAMU, Arky St and Duke as your first 3 home games.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Oldman made one good point that no one here wants to touch, but lets get real, that's the big motherf*cking problem we have.

What the **** makes ANYONE think that we are going to get the right coach next time? Al Golden and Randy Edsall were the finalists for this job. Randy Shannon was who they picked before that. And that was a few years from back to back MNC appearances, a Title, and one of the longest win streaks in Div. 1 Football. And RANDY F*CKING SHANNON was the best we could do.

If AG has to go, then he has to go. But be careful what you wish for. I have ZERO faith that UM is going to get any top level coach that can walk in here and get this program firing on all cylinders overnight. Its going to be yet ANOTHER "rebuilding process" and more "steps, and pillars" and bullsh*t.

I dont think a loss in the UL game fires up the hot seat, unless its some kind of embarassing bloodbath. But he needs to show something this year. He needs to show that this "process" is working and he's building something. That the players are buying in and learning the "system" and "scheme" and all that sh*t. That's what I need to see, and I think that's what most of the level headed fans want to see. I want to be able to see that this is going somewhere. That we are taking the next step. There are always going to be the hot heads that want to WIN NOW OR DIE. You cant run a program with that mindset. Not unless you can drop 5 million a year on an HC. It took Butch some time to get it just right. And even then, it was that scrawny kid from Cali that was the missing piece that brought it all together.

Hopefully AG's cake is finally ready to bake, and another kid from Cali is the piece we have been waiting for.

Hopefully you know more about fornicating than what's available in coaches. And I'm pretty sure you do, but we'll not go there.

This administration has truly screwed the pooch three times in a row. They know they can't afford to bet on a "possible." They HAVE to go with a known factor, one who's proven to be able to build a program to National Championship caliber. Who knows the local flora and fauna, how things work down here, how to evaluate talent without peer, and how to recruit like no one in college football.

One who will come for the money that is available, and one who WANTS the job.

Butch Davis.

Choke on it.

 

[Angry Ibis]

No, but we are talking Radio, 2010 USF attendance early if it is Russell Bowl 2.0. And you know it.

Does that mean you won't be there to tailgate with?

 

[oduke1]

**** Feldman. How soon we forget his BS Pee Wee rehash article he whored out a full year after the Yahoo hatchet job.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...s-how-hurricanes-program-unraveled-in-scandal

After he was fired from ESPN, he became total CBS/SEC lacky, bashing UM to promote himself. Now he's a weak sauce job hopper.

We should claw back his Miami book money.