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@Dawgcane this is what I was referring to re: Richt
He was too busy defending tRicht with a downvote, disagree vote, dumbpost downvote... Those are his weapons. And he upvotes people heaping praise on this program killer.

It's like talking to an inductee at Jonestown, Guyana. @Dawgcane drinks tRicht's Kool-Aid by the gallons.

@Dawgcane, why do you like Richt so much?

We saw a stat that said 1 top 20 offense in 18 years. He had Bobo there for a time and Bobo didnt set the world on fire given the talent and resources and he's not looking good at CSU, obviously. Why would we want Bobo?

Compare that guy or your guy's offensive performances at UGA and/or Miami to Leach or Yost with their lesser resources. Prima Facie evidence of Richt's corchery. Facts you dont want to accept but ignore or excuse.

This locker room has gone to ****. Kids are going... And more will go. Recruits have bailed. More will not choose us but yet you downvote, disagree vote, dumb vote the understandable shots at Richt. Even ones that aren't over the top. Why dawg?

He's a total failure... The mismanagement of players, the locker room, game situations, recruiting, corching selections, schemes... Why are you more of a Richt fan than a fan of a team, any team?

Does there come a point where you actually say he's awful, over the hill and needs to go or do you keep justifying why it's not really his fault and if he just has this or that, he'll be dominating?
 
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@RVACane Man guess you missed my post right above yours, how about rereading was talking about Bobo record at UGA.

You can not let your fixation about a coach affect your loyalty to the Canes which wishing team loses, staying home, trying run recruits off, may help in short term give a coach a headache, but also cripples program 2-3 years down road regardless of who is coaching then.
 
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@RVACane Man guess you missed my post right above yours, how about rereading was talking about Bobo record at UGA.
Ok, I have now read it. I'll assume that the 1 year Richt broke into the top 20 on offense was with Bobo... Ok... The other years, with or without Bobo, he didnt break top 20 with this 30 year old playbook.

Why do you continue to ignore our reality and defend him with your votes at a minimum? Our situation is atrocious and as i mentioned above, there are tons of examples of how we have been emasculated by this man. So i ask again... Why are you a bigger fan of Richt than a team, any team??? How do you see him reversing this disaster?
 
I graduated from Colorado state in 2017 was friends with some kids on the football team and went to quite a few games. Kids liked Bobo and he is much more innovative offensively then Richt and actually fielded some good offenses at CSU the issue was really defensively we could not stop a nose bleed. Not saying I would want him here over a guy like Yost or another air raid innovative OC because that’s the offense we should be running here but he would be an upgrade over richt forsure
 
I graduated from Colorado state in 2017 was friends with some kids on the football team and went to quite a few games. Kids liked Bobo and he is much more innovative offensively then Richt and actually fielded some good offenses at CSU the issue was really defensively we could not stop a nose bleed. Not saying I would want him here over a guy like Yost or another air raid innovative OC because that’s the offense we should be running here but he would be an upgrade over richt forsure
The fear is that he would run Richt's system and not have complete autonomy....and yeah, we'd prefer Yost and some others who would be a complete change.
 
How have you supported the Canes this year? How have I supported the Canes this year? Will not even ask how many home and away games you been to, just as big a travel problem for me as you.

You know the QB problems this year, you know the young receiver problems , Ol, injuries , and last and most important coaching decisions that has had an effect on player problems.

Lets look at this time next year and see the young guys having another years experience how improved they are. It appears from what 1 or 2 of the 87 trustees said Richt is going to be here through next year so rag on him all you want just cut the kids busting their butt for the U some slack.

Go Canes
 
How have you supported the Canes this year? How have I supported the Canes this year? Will not even ask how many home and away games you been to, just as big a travel problem for me as you.

You know the QB problems this year, you know the young receiver problems , Ol, injuries , and last and most important coaching decisions that has had an effect on player problems.

Lets look at this time next year and see the young guys having another years experience how improved they are. It appears from what 1 or 2 of the 87 trustees said Richt is going to be here through next year so rag on him all you want just cut the kids busting their butt for the U some slack.

Go Canes
Richt created the QB problems and made them worse with Rosier in there. When he's not suspending the guys he recruited, they're not being developed. Richt hired his unqualified kid to coach them. Richt hired Searels. There are guaranteed dozens of teams with lower recruited O Line talent playing better than our O Line. After the punting display last year, Richt came into the season with Feagles. Recruiting strategy is horrendous. They got lucky with Jarren last year and with Bandy before that. The scheme does not work or he cannot recruit and develop players to execute it. And, yeah... We get that Richt isn't getting tossed this year. If we let up then we are capitulating. The school needs to know it's not acceptable.
 
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Y’all better pray that Bobo wins out. We can’t afford him getting fired. If he did, It’s a guarantee Richt would want him.
 
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I doubt they fire him off one horrible year especially when he was too sick to even coach early in the season and during fall practice. Plus, they don’t want to pay that big buyout. Bozo will most likely get another year.
 
I doubt they fire him off one horrible year especially when he was too sick to even coach early in the season and during fall practice. Plus, they don’t want to pay that big buyout. Bozo will most likely get another year.
That's like the equivalent of Jeff Spicoli skating by with a D in Mr. Hand's class in Fast Times at Ridgemont High... I'll take it.
 
BOBO sounds like a clown college thing.could you image a recruit visit in home HI IM BOBO could you see a reaction if one of the people in the house was high or intoxicated :qr12zehp37hu.jpg::sjfd4ytbgaemgtvaw2.jpg::laughing-1::y-u-no:
 
How was the offense at UGA with Bobo and Richt? We saw a stat recently that Richt has had 1 top 20 offense in 18 years so I'm guessing that this would not be the best hire.

S&P+ rankings of the UGA offense under Bobo

2006 (pre Bobo) 57th

With Bobo as OC:
2007 16
2008 15
2009 32
2010 26
2011 39
2012 6
2013 8
2014 6

2015 (post Bobo) 81

2016 (Smart year 1) 93
 
S&P+ rankings of the UGA offense under Bobo

2006 (pre Bobo) 57th

With Bobo as OC:
2007 16
2008 15
2009 32
2010 26
2011 39
2012 6
2013 8
2014 6

2015 (post Bobo) 81

2016 (Smart year 1) 93
ESPN flashed a stat during the telecast of one of our last 2 games that said Richt has had 1 top 20 offense in 18 years. A lot of us saw it or know about it because we talked about it

I love facts, whether they prove me right or wrong, because they don't lie. Now here you come with S&P rankings which show otherwise and i dont doubt your work here

So I have a serious question about these stats, ESPN stats and what really went on at UGA on offense. Does anyone understand the discrepancy from what S&P looks at and what ESPN is looking at.

And the offense here is way worse than the production at Georgia but does Richt need the talents of guys like Chubb and Michel every year or it's a bust?
 
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My $0.02 on Bobo:

UGA was his first major coaching job. Richt brought him in as QB coach while Neil Callaway served as the "official" OC and Richt called the plays. Bobo started calling plays for the last few games of the '06 season and was named the official OC starting in 2007 until he left for Colorado State following the 2014 season.

He had some growing pains the first few years and I was not a fan at all. I have to say, though, that by 2013 or so he really won me over. He was still prone to getting a little cute at times, but imo, he had developed a really unique offensive approach. We essentially ran a hurry up no huddle, but with a traditional, pro style scheme that was heavily run based. 2014 was his best year, imo, and he did it with a QB, Hutson Mason, that was absolutely no threat to throw downfield or to run. Of course, it certainly helps to have a backfield of Todd Gurley, Nick Chubb, and Sony Michel; but in the era of spread offenses, I think a run based, pro style offense with elements of the no huddle made us very difficult to prepare for.

Bobo was also a top notch recruiter, though he could be set in his ways and preferred a pro style QB to a dual threat. His biggest mistake was not recruiting Deshaun Watson, who grew up 45 minutes from Athens, until it was far too late to matter.

In hindsight, and this is just my opinion, Bobo kept the program running from about 2011 until he left. Richt had vacated a lot of his leadership and Bobo picked up the slack. When he went to Fort Collins there was a power vacuum that Richt didn't fill. Jeremy Pruitt tried, but had/has such a different mentality than Richt that it never worked like it did with Bobo. Richt lost the team very quickly in 2015 once Bobo left.

Mike Bobo is a **** good OC, but he's not going to be Richt's savior...that can only come from Richt. He's the one that has to set the tone. OTOH, I would absolutely take him back in Athens. His scheme, combined with Kirby's emphasis on OL and a hard nosed, disciplined mentality, would be lethal, imo.
 
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Bobo will be the guy Rick hires if he is fired at CSU. It will be Bobo as OC and Callaway to replace Searles as OL corch...

I don’t see hiring a guy like Briles or Kingsbury as it would go against everything ultra conservative Rick stands for.
 
So I have a serious question about these stats, ESPN stats and what really went on at UGA on offense. Does anyone understand the discrepancy from what S&P looks at and what ESPN is looking at.
No.

An the offense here is way worse than the production at Georgia but does Richt need Chubbs and Michels evwry year or it's bust?
For Richt, the answer is yes. Richt's scheme is predicated on out-talenting people. It works great when you have Peter Warrick, but when you go up against equal or better talent, you're in big trouble.

Bobo was better at getting more out of his talent. It's hard to say 100% that that is the case, because as I mentioned earlier, his last and best year as OC, 2014, he had a backfield of Todd Gurley, Nick Chubb, and Sony Michel (and Keith Marshall, too). But the OL and QB were both subpar and it didn't hold us back.
 
S&P+ rankings of the UGA offense under Bobo

2006 (pre Bobo) 57th

With Bobo as OC:
2007 16
2008 15
2009 32
2010 26
2011 39
2012 6
2013 8
2014 6

2015 (post Bobo) 81

2016 (Smart year 1) 93

Those last 3 Bobo years he had Gurley if I'm not mistaken.

Makes a huge difference.
 
ESPN flashed a stat during the telecast of one of our last 2 games that said Richt has had 1 top 20 offense in 18 years. A lot of us saw it or know about it because we talked about it

I love facts, whether they prove me right or wrong, because they don't lie. Now here you come with S&P rankings which show otherwise and i dont doubt your work here

So I have a serious question about these stats, ESPN stats and what really went on at UGA on offense. Does anyone understand the discrepancy from what S&P looks at and what ESPN is looking at.

And the offense here is way worse than the production at Georgia but does Richt need the talents of guys like Chubb and Michel every year or it's a bust?

The S&P+ is based on offensive efficiency and factors out garbage time and measures by quality of opponent.

Link: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaaoff

I think the hope at Miami was Richt would recruit in guys like Chubb, Gurley, Michel etc... no? You don't beat Clemson with 3* kids you beat them with 4-5* kids like Richt landed at UGA. Miami has a friggin stable of four backs right now that all have starters ability. Just need the scheme, OL, QB, healthy HB's, WR without the drops to back them up.

My assumption is that the ESPN slappies always post total offense (who cares?) or scoring offense which is great but I'm more concerned with points per play as a stat nerd- and wins as a normal human.
 
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