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Yes. Coaching trumps all.
 
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RightSaidFred said:
Do you understand what an outlier is?
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We’ve recruited 41 blue chips between ‘16-‘19. (1- 5* & 40-4*)

We’ve out recruited 1/2 of teams that’s in the Top 25

However what’s really screwed us is the class of 16, who are supposed to be our Sr. leaders. It wasn’t a big class, but what compounded matters is the shear amount of blue chips that were lost from this class:
Mullins-Transferred
Allison-Transferred
Jackson-Gone
Homer-Gone
Bruce-Kicked off team
Richards-Injured/Retired

So out of the blue chips recruited from that class, Shaq, and Bethel are here, and unfortunately for Bethel, this staff never found a position for him; is he a DT or DE? McCloud was a fringe 4 star and now he’s receiving RS.

Two guys who were considered blue chips from ‘16 are contributing v. the nine we recruited.
As a matter of fact, that whole ‘16 class collapsed:
James-kicked off team
Haskins-kicked off team
Wright-kicked off team
Young-Injured/Retired
Martin-JAG
Johnson-transferred
Harris-transferred

19 players recruited/6 still here/4.5 contributing this season.

Fortunately for 2017, our blue chips are here, w the exception of DJ Johnson (transferred) and Dean (graduates). The only JAG appears to be Herbert, but the jury is out. 7 of the 10 blue chip guys are still here and contributing. The only guys from 17 that bounced was Feagles, Smith, Weldon, but we’re still missing guys like Steed & Wilder due to injuries.

Our problem has been a combo of a plethora of things, but hopefully the 17 class stick around a bit
 
Rellyrell said:
We’ve recruited 41 blue chips between ‘16-‘19. (1- 5* & 40-4*)

We’ve out recruited 1/2 of teams that’s in the Top 25

However what’s really screwed us is the class of 16, who are supposed to be our Sr. leaders. It wasn’t a big class, but what compounded matters is the shear amount of blue chips that were lost from this class:
Mullins-Transferred
Allison-Transferred
Jackson-Gone
Homer-Gone
Bruce-Kicked off team
Richards-Injured/Retired

So out of the blue chips recruited from that class, Shaq, and Bethel are here, and unfortunately for Bethel, this staff never found a position for him; is he a DT or DE? McCloud was a fringe 4 star and now he’s receiving RS.

Two guys who were considered blue chips from ‘16 are contributing v. the nine we recruited.
As a matter of fact, that whole ‘16 class collapsed:
James-kicked off team
Haskins-kicked off team
Wright-kicked off team
Young-Injured/Retired
Martin-JAG
Johnson-transferred
Harris-transferred

19 players recruited/6 still here/4.5 contributing this season.

Fortunately for 2017, our blue chips are here, w the exception of DJ Johnson (transferred) and Dean (graduates). The only JAG appears to be Herbert, but the jury is out. 7 of the 10 blue chip guys are still here and contributing. The only guys from 17 that bounced was Feagles, Smith, Weldon, but we’re still missing guys like Steed & Wilder due to injuries.

Our problem has been a combo of a plethora of things, but hopefully the 17 class stick around a bit
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Every school has to deal with injuries, transfers and kids not panning out. Seems the not panning out happens more here for reasons I don't know. We aren't doing much of anything right. Not winning, not developing the way we should, recruiting is good but not getting the true difference makers (missing on the elite). We are sending guys to the league but not in the first two rounds.

If we aren't recruiting like a top 5 program then we need top notch coaching to get the most out of the players we do get but we have a staff filled with green coaches.
 
Very interesting, however this kind of information misses the nuance of recruiting. Every so called 4 & 5 star really aren't bonafide ' Balla's. Coaching matters as much maybe even more. Ex: UCF, Wisconsin, UVA, Utah, etc.

Another example is L. Cager who transfered to UGA. Currently, he is balling out.
 
moshated305 said:
Every school has to deal with injuries, transfers and kids not panning out. Seems the not panning out happens more here for reasons I don't know. We aren't doing much of anything right. Not winning, not developing the way we should, recruiting is good but not getting the true difference makers (missing on the elite). We are sending guys to the league but not in the first two rounds.

If we aren't recruiting like a top 5 program then we need top notch coaching to get the most out of the players we do get but we have a staff filled with green coaches.
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Couldn’t agree more
 
Go down this list and count how may teams are outperforming their recruiting rankings over the last four years.

Hint: There are virtually none.

Clemson and Wisconsin are the only outliers. They both have a couple of things in common: Coaching continuity and a culture of players developing, then staying four and even five years.

www.sbnation.com

Updated 4-year recruiting rankings for all 130: SEC dominates

UGA’s nearly tied Bama as the SEC’s gap grows. Meanwhile, A&M’s 2019 class ranks sixth-best in the SEC, but would have led two other power conferences.
www.sbnation.com www.sbnation.com
 
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Swampcity said:
Very interesting, however this kind of information misses the nuance of recruiting. Every so called 4 & 5 star really aren't bonafide ' Balla's. Coaching matters as much maybe even more. Ex: UCF, Wisconsin, UVA, Utah, etc.

Another example is L. Cager who transfered to UGA. Currently, he is balling out.
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One good game is balling out?
 
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Swampcity said:
It's more than one good game, it was a marquee game. Remember, "Big time players make big time plays in big time games".

To your point, it's coaching.
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Then that means he was better coached last year, had 6 TDS in first 5 games for us in 2018 and had 50 more yards for us through 4 games than he has now for Georgia through 4. Then he did Jack **** the rest of the year. He is a JAG. Sorry the facts don't fit your narrative that we suck at everything.
 
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