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This board has been tough on Darrion Owens all year. Sight recognition is soooo important for a LB'er and you only develop it with live reps. The traffic and therefore looks LB's deal with is crazy. A year out of football for a LB'er is arguably the most detrimental other than maybe safety. He'll get faster as the reps come. Comped to where he was early in the year, progress has been made, great progress. I expect DO to be a #4 with little drop off next year.

Go Canes!
 
blackvern said:
Not gonna grade everybody just the ones who stood out good or bad...You get a better feel of how players perform when your at the game..

Mark Walton- Man is he a football player..not the greatest running back weve ever had but he is great at playing football. Definitely has the heart, strength and toughness. You cant work on vision thats natural but he can work on explosion.. He is tenth of a second away from being semi-elite. Definitely more explosive and stronger than last year if he can improve just as much next year he will be the best back in the ACC, Crossing my fingers
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6 months of doing these everyday should help Walton's vision significantly to see the cut back lanes and defenders closing in on him.

[video=youtube;bDmKRurak0U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDmKRurak0U[/video]

[video=youtube;aunC2sSjvC8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aunC2sSjvC8[/video]

[video=youtube;bloh0uLWAmQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloh0uLWAmQ[/video]

[video=youtube;ymGf0_5z7_A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymGf0_5z7_A[/video]
 
blackvern said:
Not gonna grade everybody just the ones who stood out good or bad...You get a better feel of how players perform when your at the game..

Chad Thomas- Best game he has played as a Cane!! he looked quicker and more explosive.. He didnt make many plays like he did when he chased dwn the QB on that scarmble and made him fumble... Looked liked he was shot out of a cannon..Maybe he was injured this year? Although he missed the quarterback a few times in the backfield he was "Flying Around" My suggest for him is get a little more leaner and quicker. He better beast next year!!!

Courtel Jenkins- Dam he looked like the best DT out there. He better not transfer. Dude was creating havoc all night. Came back after a scary knee injury.

Joe Jackson- WIll have double digit sacks next year Dam that boy is explosive.. He has that bend

Darion Owens- man was he terrible.. He looked like a fish out of water out there. Skyler was embarassing him in the open field.. Another OP said he is not back from knee injury..I hope that was the case because he was a lianility on defense. West Virginia was going at him purposely. Even the WV fans saw it. HE needs to be moved to rush end in my opinion

Shaq Quarterman- Is always where he's suppose to be. He is a very good linebacker. Needs a little more speed to be elite. If i was him I'd work on all speed and explosion drills. Very Bright Future

Zach Mcloud- Took a big step up today this was also his best game as a cane. He was flying everywhere and reading plays. It was amazing to watch. Looked like he wasnt thinking out there and was playing super fast.

Mike Pinckney-IMO he is our best linebacker. Future is so bright for us mane. Limitied time due to the ejection but was making plays while he was out there like always

Maleek Young- Secondary didnt really get tested down the field. THey threw a lot of RB/WR screens to his side and reverses. He needs to work on his strength because he wasnt able to get off the blocks and we gave up some chunk yardage on those plays. Being a true freshamn this isnt overly concerning and he is expected to be weak. One of the problems when u lack depth at the position. He brings the much needed speed to the postiion..Hit that weight room Maleek because you will be starting next year.

Jamal Carter- Poor game....Man I really think he should have grown into a LB here, Dude has no safety awareness at all. That PI call was embarassing. His only hope at making it in the league is switching over to WLB like Ray Ray

Rayshawn Jenkins- Had a good game..Has Ed Reed type instincts but average athleticism. He had a pretty good career minus the embarassing missed tackles. Wouldnt be surposed to see him make an NFL roster.

Corn- Team was purposely staying away from him... best player on the defense this year..Will have a long career at nickel corner in the league..and possibly outside corner. Has legit strength, speed(Remember when he hawked down cook) instincts and he is very quick twitchy.. Is a natural corner and outstanding tackler one of the best on our team.

Stacy Coley- Had a good game minus the drop. Kaaya overthrew him several times. Great route runner and great blocker he was mauling corners down the field. Needs to stay discipline way too many holding calls this year and last night. Strenth has improved tremendously from freshmen and sophmore years. Only thing is Ive never recalled a player getting slower as they got stronger. He was much faster his freshman year.. Plays like a a 4.55-4.59 guy. SHould get drafted in the middle rounds hope he stays healthy.

Mark Walton- Man is he a football player..not the greatest running back weve ever had but he is great at playing football. Definitely has the heart, strength and toughness. You cant work on vision thats natural but he can work on explosion.. He is tenth of a second away from being semi-elite. Definitely more explosive and stronger than last year if he can improve just as much next year he will be the best back in the ACC, Crossing my fingers

Joe Yearby- DOnt know what he did to fall out of the coaches graces..most instinctual RB on the team. SHould have found some more ways to get him the ball last night.

Kaaya- He came back to play well but starting out the game with 6 three and outs in a row with no first downs was flat out embarassing. Dude is madly inconsistent. If he comes back great if he doesnt

Ahmon Richards- Oh my that boy is special..Dam!!!!

Ok gotta go feel free to add anything first bowl win in 12 years!! BEating NEvada 21-20 in the MPC bowl doesnt count!!
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Spot on about Shaq.. after the first series my son's and I where like WV is Extremely fast or Shaq is a bit slow... He is a bowling ball... once he gets going has good top end speed but he needs to work on his first three steps..

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UknowWhat said:
blackvern said:
Not gonna grade everybody just the ones who stood out good or bad...You get a better feel of how players perform when your at the game..

Chad Thomas- Best game he has played as a Cane!! he looked quicker and more explosive.. He didnt make many plays like he did when he chased dwn the QB on that scarmble and made him fumble... Looked liked he was shot out of a cannon..Maybe he was injured this year? Although he missed the quarterback a few times in the backfield he was "Flying Around" My suggest for him is get a little more leaner and quicker. He better beast next year!!!

Courtel Jenkins- Dam he looked like the best DT out there. He better not transfer. Dude was creating havoc all night. Came back after a scary knee injury.

Joe Jackson- WIll have double digit sacks next year Dam that boy is explosive.. He has that bend

Darion Owens- man was he terrible.. He looked like a fish out of water out there. Skyler was embarassing him in the open field.. Another OP said he is not back from knee injury..I hope that was the case because he was a lianility on defense. West Virginia was going at him purposely. Even the WV fans saw it. HE needs to be moved to rush end in my opinion

Shaq Quarterman- Is always where he's suppose to be. He is a very good linebacker. Needs a little more speed to be elite. If i was him I'd work on all speed and explosion drills. Very Bright Future

Zach Mcloud- Took a big step up today this was also his best game as a cane. He was flying everywhere and reading plays. It was amazing to watch. Looked like he wasnt thinking out there and was playing super fast.

Mike Pinckney-IMO he is our best linebacker. Future is so bright for us mane. Limitied time due to the ejection but was making plays while he was out there like always

Maleek Young- Secondary didnt really get tested down the field. THey threw a lot of RB/WR screens to his side and reverses. He needs to work on his strength because he wasnt able to get off the blocks and we gave up some chunk yardage on those plays. Being a true freshamn this isnt overly concerning and he is expected to be weak. One of the problems when u lack depth at the position. He brings the much needed speed to the postiion..Hit that weight room Maleek because you will be starting next year.

Jamal Carter- Poor game....Man I really think he should have grown into a LB here, Dude has no safety awareness at all. That PI call was embarassing. His only hope at making it in the league is switching over to WLB like Ray Ray

Rayshawn Jenkins- Had a good game..Has Ed Reed type instincts but average athleticism. He had a pretty good career minus the embarassing missed tackles. Wouldnt be surposed to see him make an NFL roster.

Corn- Team was purposely staying away from him... best player on the defense this year..Will have a long career at nickel corner in the league..and possibly outside corner. Has legit strength, speed(Remember when he hawked down cook) instincts and he is very quick twitchy.. Is a natural corner and outstanding tackler one of the best on our team.

Stacy Coley- Had a good game minus the drop. Kaaya overthrew him several times. Great route runner and great blocker he was mauling corners down the field. Needs to stay discipline way too many holding calls this year and last night. Strenth has improved tremendously from freshmen and sophmore years. Only thing is Ive never recalled a player getting slower as they got stronger. He was much faster his freshman year.. Plays like a a 4.55-4.59 guy. SHould get drafted in the middle rounds hope he stays healthy.

Mark Walton- Man is he a football player..not the greatest running back weve ever had but he is great at playing football. Definitely has the heart, strength and toughness. You cant work on vision thats natural but he can work on explosion.. He is tenth of a second away from being semi-elite. Definitely more explosive and stronger than last year if he can improve just as much next year he will be the best back in the ACC, Crossing my fingers

Joe Yearby- DOnt know what he did to fall out of the coaches graces..most instinctual RB on the team. SHould have found some more ways to get him the ball last night.

Kaaya- He came back to play well but starting out the game with 6 three and outs in a row with no first downs was flat out embarassing. Dude is madly inconsistent. If he comes back great if he doesnt

Ahmon Richards- Oh my that boy is special..Dam!!!!

Ok gotta go feel free to add anything first bowl win in 12 years!! BEating NEvada 21-20 in the MPC bowl doesnt count!!
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Spot on about Shaq.. after the first series my son's and I where like WV is Extremely fast or Shaq is a bit slow... He is a bowling ball... once he gets going has good top end speed but he needs to work on his first three steps..

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Yep but He definitely is our most physical linebacker at shedding blocks and getting to the ball carrier, He made a lot of plays fighting off blocks against WV.. He's kind of at a disadvantage because it seems like at PInckneys position he is free of blockers on his way to the ball carrier..Seems like Shaq always has to fight off a guard/tackle to get to the ball carrier
 
Then the tackles need to be better. Force a double team up front means backers run free.
 
RJ was unblockable against WVU. He should have drawn about 4 holdings but our Dline doesn't get that respect for some reason.
 
blackvern said:
Not gonna grade everybody just the ones who stood out good or bad...You get a better feel of how players perform when your at the game..

Chad Thomas- Best game he has played as a Cane!! he looked quicker and more explosive.. He didnt make many plays like he did when he chased dwn the QB on that scarmble and made him fumble... Looked liked he was shot out of a cannon..Maybe he was injured this year? Although he missed the quarterback a few times in the backfield he was "Flying Around" My suggest for him is get a little more leaner and quicker. He better beast next year!!!

Courtel Jenkins- Dam he looked like the best DT out there. He better not transfer. Dude was creating havoc all night. Came back after a scary knee injury.

Joe Jackson- WIll have double digit sacks next year Dam that boy is explosive.. He has that bend

Darion Owens- man was he terrible.. He looked like a fish out of water out there. Skyler was embarassing him in the open field.. Another OP said he is not back from knee injury..I hope that was the case because he was a lianility on defense. West Virginia was going at him purposely. Even the WV fans saw it. HE needs to be moved to rush end in my opinion

Shaq Quarterman- Is always where he's suppose to be. He is a very good linebacker. Needs a little more speed to be elite. If i was him I'd work on all speed and explosion drills. Very Bright Future

Zach Mcloud- Took a big step up today this was also his best game as a cane. He was flying everywhere and reading plays. It was amazing to watch. Looked like he wasnt thinking out there and was playing super fast.

Mike Pinckney-IMO he is our best linebacker. Future is so bright for us mane. Limitied time due to the ejection but was making plays while he was out there like always

Maleek Young- Secondary didnt really get tested down the field. THey threw a lot of RB/WR screens to his side and reverses. He needs to work on his strength because he wasnt able to get off the blocks and we gave up some chunk yardage on those plays. Being a true freshamn this isnt overly concerning and he is expected to be weak. One of the problems when u lack depth at the position. He brings the much needed speed to the postiion..Hit that weight room Maleek because you will be starting next year.

Jamal Carter- Poor game....Man I really think he should have grown into a LB here, Dude has no safety awareness at all. That PI call was embarassing. His only hope at making it in the league is switching over to WLB like Ray Ray

Rayshawn Jenkins- Had a good game..Has Ed Reed type instincts but average athleticism. He had a pretty good career minus the embarassing missed tackles. Wouldnt be surposed to see him make an NFL roster.

Corn- Team was purposely staying away from him... best player on the defense this year..Will have a long career at nickel corner in the league..and possibly outside corner. Has legit strength, speed(Remember when he hawked down cook) instincts and he is very quick twitchy.. Is a natural corner and outstanding tackler one of the best on our team.

Stacy Coley- Had a good game minus the drop. Kaaya overthrew him several times. Great route runner and great blocker he was mauling corners down the field. Needs to stay discipline way too many holding calls this year and last night. Strenth has improved tremendously from freshmen and sophmore years. Only thing is Ive never recalled a player getting slower as they got stronger. He was much faster his freshman year.. Plays like a a 4.55-4.59 guy. SHould get drafted in the middle rounds hope he stays healthy.

Mark Walton- Man is he a football player..not the greatest running back weve ever had but he is great at playing football. Definitely has the heart, strength and toughness. You cant work on vision thats natural but he can work on explosion.. He is tenth of a second away from being semi-elite. Definitely more explosive and stronger than last year if he can improve just as much next year he will be the best back in the ACC, Crossing my fingers

Joe Yearby- DOnt know what he did to fall out of the coaches graces..most instinctual RB on the team. SHould have found some more ways to get him the ball last night.

Kaaya- He came back to play well but starting out the game with 6 three and outs in a row with no first downs was flat out embarassing. Dude is madly inconsistent. If he comes back great if he doesnt

Ahmon Richards- Oh my that boy is special..Dam!!!!

Ok gotta go feel free to add anything first bowl win in 12 years!! BEating NEvada 21-20 in the MPC bowl doesnt count!!
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I just told my cousin the other day while watching Stacy Coley career highlight the other day that he gained weight after his fresh. season and never was able to regain that explosiveness.

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Paranos said:
blackvern said:
Not gonna grade everybody just the ones who stood out good or bad...You get a better feel of how players perform when your at the game..

Mark Walton- Man is he a football player..not the greatest running back weve ever had but he is great at playing football. Definitely has the heart, strength and toughness. You cant work on vision thats natural but he can work on explosion.. He is tenth of a second away from being semi-elite. Definitely more explosive and stronger than last year if he can improve just as much next year he will be the best back in the ACC, Crossing my fingers
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6 months of doing these everyday should help Walton's vision significantly to see the cut back lanes and defenders closing in on him.

[video=youtube;bDmKRurak0U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDmKRurak0U[/video]

[video=youtube;aunC2sSjvC8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aunC2sSjvC8[/video]

[video=youtube;bloh0uLWAmQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloh0uLWAmQ[/video]

[video=youtube;ymGf0_5z7_A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymGf0_5z7_A[/video]
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It's more about football IQ. Understanding where the numbers are and flow of the play to set up back-side cuts.. It's not actually about his peripheral vision.
 
+ on the Coley and Yearby bit alone. Coley looked like he was running in sand...And if Walton saw and then hit the hole like Yearby, he'd be Elite.
 
plantcity3 said:
blackvern said:
Not gonna grade everybody just the ones who stood out good or bad...You get a better feel of how players perform when your at the game..

Chad Thomas- Best game he has played as a Cane!! he looked quicker and more explosive.. He didnt make many plays like he did when he chased dwn the QB on that scarmble and made him fumble... Looked liked he was shot out of a cannon..Maybe he was injured this year? Although he missed the quarterback a few times in the backfield he was "Flying Around" My suggest for him is get a little more leaner and quicker. He better beast next year!!!

Courtel Jenkins- Dam he looked like the best DT out there. He better not transfer. Dude was creating havoc all night. Came back after a scary knee injury.

Joe Jackson- WIll have double digit sacks next year Dam that boy is explosive.. He has that bend

Darion Owens- man was he terrible.. He looked like a fish out of water out there. Skyler was embarassing him in the open field.. Another OP said he is not back from knee injury..I hope that was the case because he was a lianility on defense. West Virginia was going at him purposely. Even the WV fans saw it. HE needs to be moved to rush end in my opinion

Shaq Quarterman- Is always where he's suppose to be. He is a very good linebacker. Needs a little more speed to be elite. If i was him I'd work on all speed and explosion drills. Very Bright Future

Zach Mcloud- Took a big step up today this was also his best game as a cane. He was flying everywhere and reading plays. It was amazing to watch. Looked like he wasnt thinking out there and was playing super fast.

Mike Pinckney-IMO he is our best linebacker. Future is so bright for us mane. Limitied time due to the ejection but was making plays while he was out there like always

Maleek Young- Secondary didnt really get tested down the field. THey threw a lot of RB/WR screens to his side and reverses. He needs to work on his strength because he wasnt able to get off the blocks and we gave up some chunk yardage on those plays. Being a true freshamn this isnt overly concerning and he is expected to be weak. One of the problems when u lack depth at the position. He brings the much needed speed to the postiion..Hit that weight room Maleek because you will be starting next year.

Jamal Carter- Poor game....Man I really think he should have grown into a LB here, Dude has no safety awareness at all. That PI call was embarassing. His only hope at making it in the league is switching over to WLB like Ray Ray

Rayshawn Jenkins- Had a good game..Has Ed Reed type instincts but average athleticism. He had a pretty good career minus the embarassing missed tackles. Wouldnt be surposed to see him make an NFL roster.

Corn- Team was purposely staying away from him... best player on the defense this year..Will have a long career at nickel corner in the league..and possibly outside corner. Has legit strength, speed(Remember when he hawked down cook) instincts and he is very quick twitchy.. Is a natural corner and outstanding tackler one of the best on our team.

Stacy Coley- Had a good game minus the drop. Kaaya overthrew him several times. Great route runner and great blocker he was mauling corners down the field. Needs yto stay discipline way too many holding calls this year and last night. Strenth has improved tremendously from freshmen and sophmore years. Only thing is Ive never recalled a player getting slower as they got stronger. He was much faster his freshman year.. Plays like a a 4.55-4.59 guy. SHould get drafted in the middle rounds hope he stays healthy.

Mark Walton- Man is he a football player..not the greatest running back weve ever had but he is great at playing football. Definitely has the heart, strength and toughness. You cant work on vision thats natural but he can work on explosion.. He is tenth of a second away from being semi-elite. Definitely more explosive and stronger than last year if he can improve just as much next year he will be the best back in the ACC, Crossing my fingers

Joe Yearby- DOnt know what he did to fall out of the coaches graces..most instinctual RB on the team. SHould have found some more ways to get him the ball last night.

Kaaya- He came back to play well but starting out the game with 6 three and outs in a row with no first downs was flat out embarassing. Dude is madly inconsistent. If he comes back great if he doesnt

Ahmon Richards- Oh my that boy is special..Dam!!!!

Ok gotta go feel free to add anything first bowl win in 12 years!! BEating NEvada 21-20 in the MPC bowl doesnt count!!
Click to expand...

I just told my cousin the other day while watching Stacy Coley career highlight the other day that he gained weight after his fresh. season and never was able to regain that explosiveness.

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
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Here's my concern with coach Gus and the S&C program. Bama LSU and FSU have proven they can take a fast twitch athlete and add muscle to his frame without them slowing down (Cooper, Peterson, Cook). I have faith is Gus system and will reserve judgement.
 
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CaniacOnTheDanceFloor said:
plantcity3 said:
blackvern said:
Not gonna grade everybody just the ones who stood out good or bad...You get a better feel of how players perform when your at the game..

Chad Thomas- Best game he has played as a Cane!! he looked quicker and more explosive.. He didnt make many plays like he did when he chased dwn the QB on that scarmble and made him fumble... Looked liked he was shot out of a cannon..Maybe he was injured this year? Although he missed the quarterback a few times in the backfield he was "Flying Around" My suggest for him is get a little more leaner and quicker. He better beast next year!!!

Courtel Jenkins- Dam he looked like the best DT out there. He better not transfer. Dude was creating havoc all night. Came back after a scary knee injury.

Joe Jackson- WIll have double digit sacks next year Dam that boy is explosive.. He has that bend

Darion Owens- man was he terrible.. He looked like a fish out of water out there. Skyler was embarassing him in the open field.. Another OP said he is not back from knee injury..I hope that was the case because he was a lianility on defense. West Virginia was going at him purposely. Even the WV fans saw it. HE needs to be moved to rush end in my opinion

Shaq Quarterman- Is always where he's suppose to be. He is a very good linebacker. Needs a little more speed to be elite. If i was him I'd work on all speed and explosion drills. Very Bright Future

Zach Mcloud- Took a big step up today this was also his best game as a cane. He was flying everywhere and reading plays. It was amazing to watch. Looked like he wasnt thinking out there and was playing super fast.

Mike Pinckney-IMO he is our best linebacker. Future is so bright for us mane. Limitied time due to the ejection but was making plays while he was out there like always

Maleek Young- Secondary didnt really get tested down the field. THey threw a lot of RB/WR screens to his side and reverses. He needs to work on his strength because he wasnt able to get off the blocks and we gave up some chunk yardage on those plays. Being a true freshamn this isnt overly concerning and he is expected to be weak. One of the problems when u lack depth at the position. He brings the much needed speed to the postiion..Hit that weight room Maleek because you will be starting next year.

Jamal Carter- Poor game....Man I really think he should have grown into a LB here, Dude has no safety awareness at all. That PI call was embarassing. His only hope at making it in the league is switching over to WLB like Ray Ray

Rayshawn Jenkins- Had a good game..Has Ed Reed type instincts but average athleticism. He had a pretty good career minus the embarassing missed tackles. Wouldnt be surposed to see him make an NFL roster.

Corn- Team was purposely staying away from him... best player on the defense this year..Will have a long career at nickel corner in the league..and possibly outside corner. Has legit strength, speed(Remember when he hawked down cook) instincts and he is very quick twitchy.. Is a natural corner and outstanding tackler one of the best on our team.

Stacy Coley- Had a good game minus the drop. Kaaya overthrew him several times. Great route runner and great blocker he was mauling corners down the field. Needs yto stay discipline way too many holding calls this year and last night. Strenth has improved tremendously from freshmen and sophmore years. Only thing is Ive never recalled a player getting slower as they got stronger. He was much faster his freshman year.. Plays like a a 4.55-4.59 guy. SHould get drafted in the middle rounds hope he stays healthy.

Mark Walton- Man is he a football player..not the greatest running back weve ever had but he is great at playing football. Definitely has the heart, strength and toughness. You cant work on vision thats natural but he can work on explosion.. He is tenth of a second away from being semi-elite. Definitely more explosive and stronger than last year if he can improve just as much next year he will be the best back in the ACC, Crossing my fingers

Joe Yearby- DOnt know what he did to fall out of the coaches graces..most instinctual RB on the team. SHould have found some more ways to get him the ball last night.

Kaaya- He came back to play well but starting out the game with 6 three and outs in a row with no first downs was flat out embarassing. Dude is madly inconsistent. If he comes back great if he doesnt

Ahmon Richards- Oh my that boy is special..Dam!!!!

Ok gotta go feel free to add anything first bowl win in 12 years!! BEating NEvada 21-20 in the MPC bowl doesnt count!!
Click to expand...

I just told my cousin the other day while watching Stacy Coley career highlight the other day that he gained weight after his fresh. season and never was able to regain that explosiveness.

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

Here's my concern with coach Gus and the S&C program. Bama LSU and FSU have proven they can take a fast twitch athlete and add muscle to his frame without them slowing down (Cooper, Peterson, Cook). I have faith is Gus system and will reserve judgement.
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True...

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tbaycane said:
Is coley knee 100¿
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It definitely wasn't for part of the season. Ahmmon had a few injuries throughout the season. Shaq, pinckney.zach, chad, Trent and of course kaaya and coley did as well. Amazing that they fought through it. Especially the young bucks
 
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