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Southcane said:
The only reaction this post deserves is "dumb". Unfortunately this is being too nice.
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What’s dumb about the lack of talent? Those aren’t my takes, that’s a professional scouts take. I get it you’re mad we don’t win every game and if we don’t you act like a brat. Open your eyes or tell me who are these kids that are studs we have.
 
Canesfan0024 said:
Let me state before the majority of this board gets their panties in a bunch, I have no idea how Miami will be under Diaz. But I love how fans are torching him but fail to realize the talent is severely lacking this year.

As of now scouts have 1 player currently who could go as high as the 4th round DeeJay. The two linebackers are late day 3 picks. As far as the Juniors on this team. Garvin and Bandy are boarderline day 3 to undrafted right now. Jeff Thomas undrafted.

Why can’t Miami fans be patient. Are they really stuck in the early 2000’s. Did Richt give you false hope cause of a unicorn year filled with mass turnovers forced and lucky bounces. The majority of the talent we have are pups. They need time to get in a real strength and conditioning program. 6 months for the new guy wasn’t going to make a huge difference although some of the transformation are noticeable, give him another year.

Be a part of the solution and not the problem. Quit bi***ing and support the team and don’t hang on every single word someone makes. It’s petty. This was a rebuilding year no matter what way you slice it from the day we started Zion at left tackle. I’m excited for the future and next years team.

There is no excuse next year, plain and simple. Go Canes.
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So we don’t have enough talent to roll Central Michigan, Duke and Gtech???

Secondly, what does talent level have to do with failing to score while running TE jet sweeps from the 4 yard line? I’ll wait for a response!

Lastly, did you factor in lack of coaching talent?
 
ObjectiveCane said:
So we don’t have enough talent to roll Central Michigan, Duke and Gtech???

Secondly, what does talent level have to do with failing to score while running TE jet sweeps from the 4 yard line? I’ll wait for a response!

Lastly, did you factor in lack of coaching talent?
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Apparently we don’t. Those kids came to play uninspired. The LT graded out at 13 against Centsal Michigan. That’s not coaching, that’s taking a game off. Against GT Ivey just stood there in punt safe. You ever play football? You don’t just stand there. That’s not coaching. That’s lack of attention to detail. That’s on the players.

So is Steve Kerr a shi**y coach? He’s been blown out 3 out of 4 games by over 20 points.
 
Canesfan0024 said:
Blast a coach for a play but that same game Pope drops a bomb for a TD and we don’t hear a peep. This *hit is both ways. Blame the soft kids who think they are better than they are. There are reports that older class men are waiting for the draft. Who are these kids? They all stink.
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Why is it that Manny’s slurper bridage just continues to solidify my points. You know who gets kids to buy into your vision and not worry about **** like their draft status????, A good coaching staff does man. This coaching has been atrocious this year and your gonna highligt one mistake from a true sophomore as the evidence that all our players suck. Bro I only highlighted five times where the coaching staff has failed these kids. I can be here all day with more examples. You put a good coach at the helm of this team; with this schedule and we maybe lose one game.
 
Don canon said:
Why is it that Manny’s slurper bridage just continues to solidify my points. You know who gets kids to buy into your vision and not worry about **** like their draft status????, A good coaching staff does man. This coaching has been atrocious this year and your gonna highligt one mistake from a true sophomore as the evidence that all our players suck. Bro I only highlighted five times where the coaching staff has failed these kids. I can be here all day with more examples. You put a good coach at the helm of this team; with this schedule and we maybe lose one game.
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Honestly with Richt I feel we'd be no worse than 6-2 and likely better. I really wish he'd have hired a good OC/QB coach from the beginning. He looked so much better at the beginning, like really rejuvenated. Him insisting on doing it himself really wore him out.
 
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duke4heisman said:
Honestly with Richt I feel we'd be no worse than 6-2 and likely better. I really wish he'd have hired a good OC/QB coach from the beginning. He looked so much better at the beginning, like really rejuvenated. Him insisting on doing it himself really wore him out.
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Facts man and Richt was basically a Zombie last year.
 
@Canesfan0024 almost every game has had some concerning things that point directly to coaching not talent. The first one is that all the games, no matter the quality of the opponent have been close. We are good enough to trade blows with a team like UF and be in a position to win but a week later come out completely flat against an inferior UNC off of a bye week, or almost lose at home to CMU. We play up and down to our competition, that is a sign of weak coaching. We have personnel issues, whether its not identifying that GR15 is a beast that needs to start, leaving Zion on an island as he gets worked time and time again, or GT running to the outside at our striker and us not adjusting. Missed tackles, these kids on defense are young but they obviously haven't been taught to tackle correctly. I mentioned in the first point, how many times are we going to have to come back from a deficit because we came out flat against a team?

Now lets talk about our talent for a second. Have you considered that part of the reason this scout said what he said is because these kids just aren't getting the proper coaching here? We have recruited way way better than everyone we have played thus far except for UF. We have players that were wanted by programs way superior to ours. How can you just ignore all these signs that this is on the coaching. Sure we have depth problems, most of the programs have depth problems except for the very best ones. We aren't even close to teams that are dominating such as Bama or Clemson, but you mean to tell me that we aren't as good as CMU or our Coastal opponents? We got beat by a freshman VT QB, a brand new staff and freshman QB at UNC, and a GT with a new staff that previously was recruited to run the triple option. Its embarrassingly obvious that this is a coaching deficiency.
 
Coaching not the problem, the OP says. lol. Stuck in the 2000's, he says.

-So we're not supposed to be ****ed that an OC who decides to call a half-back option pass in a blizzard?

-We're not supposed to be ****ed that on 4 and Goal at the 1, a defensive coordinator calls quarters to defend the goal line?

-We're supposed to blame the players for them getting bulked up on pizza, cheeseburgers, and sodas so they can "hold the edge" while getting gashed up the gut?

-We're supposed to be OK for our DBs playing 15 yards off a WR when it's 3rd and 2?

-So let me get this str8, we're not supposed to complain when our QB coach is a guy who never coached QB and is the son of the head coach?

-I'm supposed to be just fine with play calls refusing to exploit the middle of the field when it's wide open?

-So you're trying to tell me the players are the blame for running a TE end/around on 3rd and 8 from the 15?

-Let me understand this clearly; it's the players fault that their S&C coach didn't even have certification to be on campus to train them?

-Oh, wait, it's also their fault that their S&C was a fat joke who often showed up late to practice to fill his belly?

So it's the players fault that a WR streak is called when it's a house blitz against a porous OL?

-I see, I see....so it's the players fault that the defense gives up a 4th & 17 to a freshman qb b/c the def coordinator calls a zone coverage.


What I briefly illustrated is what has been going on since Shannon. I'm tired of this narrative. You know why our players have under performed? B/c they are not being coached up (see D'Onforio, Williams, J Richt, Banda, Patke, Whipple, Coley, Harris, Melvin, etc.) they are not being developed (see latter years of Swasey, and Felder) and they have zero respect or trust for these coaches (see Golden, D'Onforio, Dugans, Brown, Searels).

We've had more talent than EVERY single team in the Coastal for at least 12 of the last 15 years. VA Tech may have sprinkled in more talent, but all these teams have been kicking our butts on the coaching and preparation side.
 
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Canesfan0024 said:
Let me state before the majority of this board gets their panties in a bunch, I have no idea how Miami will be under Diaz. But I love how fans are torching him but fail to realize the talent is severely lacking this year.

As of now scouts have 1 player currently who could go as high as the 4th round DeeJay. The two linebackers are late day 3 picks. As far as the Juniors on this team. Garvin and Bandy are boarderline day 3 to undrafted right now. Jeff Thomas undrafted.

Why can’t Miami fans be patient. Are they really stuck in the early 2000’s. Did Richt give you false hope cause of a unicorn year filled with mass turnovers forced and lucky bounces. The majority of the talent we have are pups. They need time to get in a real strength and conditioning program. 6 months for the new guy wasn’t going to make a huge difference although some of the transformation are noticeable, give him another year.

Be a part of the solution and not the problem. Quit bi***ing and support the team and don’t hang on every single word someone makes. It’s petty. This was a rebuilding year no matter what way you slice it from the day we started Zion at left tackle. I’m excited for the future and next years team.

There is no excuse next year, plain and simple. Go Canes.
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Hey *******, Mike Leach took over a team who was one of the worst in the country for decades and made them relevant in the pac 12. Say what you want but he has FIU talent and gives Cristobal a run for his money with an NFL qb on roster. GTFOH, with our talent isn't enough.. We hold the highest talent in the coastal by far and can't even win big against a central Michigan who is terrible. Besides, our blue chip ratio exceeds 55%
 
LOL at the mongoloids who continue pointing to one or two plays we missed in our losses and how that proves it’s not a coaching issue.

They never discuss all the drops CMU had or all the errors all of our other opponents made including everyone’s new hero, Mullet, starting the clearly inferior QB, Franks.

The problem isn’t that we’ve missed a kick here or there. The problem is we’ve consistently played like **** and needed kicks to beat terrible teams all year.

Watch the fcking games and quit looking for reasons to be the faqqy contrarian fake high pitched voice of reason. If you watch this team every week and compare it to similarly situated teams that recruit at our level and think we’re well coached and prepared, then please don’t reproduce. People like you are obliterating the gene pool.
 
Need to see some more flashes from these 10 blue chips:

Williams
Harris
Lingard
Pope
Mallory
Donaldson
Garvin
Silvera
Bandy
Hall
 
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