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Blame talent not coaching

ItsAUThing.com said:
Unfortunately that has been the case for 15 years and wasn't going to get fixed overnight.

Miami has been underperforming for years; lacking the next-level talent it needs to be true contender, but not doing enough to win the sh1tty Coastal Division more than once in 15 tries—and even that win was fool's gold, as listed in the original post. That 10-0 start could've just as easily have been 6-4 without bounces against FSU, GT and UNC, and there's ZERO chance anything less than undefeated Miami (with a packed house and GameDay) was beating Notre Dame. Winning bred success, just as losing has bred failure within this program for years.

Diaz took over a team that was 7-9 since the Pitt loss in 2017 and a program that was 97-71 from the 2005 Peach Bowl to 2018 Pinstripe Bowl.

As much as this team is "underperforming" this year—it simply hasn't gotten any of the breaks Miami saw in 2017—yet it it playing harder, tougher and with more resilience. Could've pulled one off against Florida and North Carolina. Had no business losing to Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech. (That said, if it had beaten either, would Miami have been up for Virginia and Pitt? Maybe not.)

Fans refuse to accept it, but this program DOES have to learn how to win again. Too many close game losses for well over a decade now; playing down to competition, not bouncing back from losses, slow starts where the Canes eventually wake up and need to mount comebacks.

Miami hasn't looked like "Miami" legitimately since the 2003 football season—and even then, was a step off of what it had been the three years prior.

Good teams fall to lesser teams on a weekly basis and lots of good teams play down to their competition with today's kids. Nature of the sport.

Diaz needs to change a culture, recruit some dogs that are Miami-type guys and needs to rebuild the Canes attitude from the ground up—as this thing has been running on mid-level ACC Coastal autopilot for too long now.
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Wow you make sound like manny just got here.
He has zero accountability for the last 3 years them? Its not like he was the DC or anything.
 
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Don canon said:
I know you have Manny’s nuts in your mouth so you can’t see the forest pass the trees. You just made my point for me. These kids get drafted and overperfrom in the league when they actually get some good coaching.
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You either you misread what I said or aren’t smart enough to get it. This has nothing to do with Manny.

In the last 7-8 years name one player who’s had a mediocre or bad career here then blew up in the league?

The problem hasn’t been player development it’s been schematic on Saturdays. They’re two different things doofus.

Calm down.
 
Home Slice said:
Do we have Bama talent? Of course not. But we play in the freakin Corstal. 9-3 should be an "off" (Rebuild ;)) year.
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Sounds easy and clear that Diaz has destroyed us. To remind all the idiots here, how few years have NOT been an "off" year in the last 15 years?
 
Torocane said:
100% agree.
He even include the tried and true

"Next year there's no excuses"
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I love when they say, "year 1 doesn't count, I'll only judge him in year 2"...

Then year 2 comes around & it's the same results, then they start saying stuff like "It takes 3-4 years for a coach to turn a program around & get his own recruits".

It's just a constant never ending moving of the goalposts excuse jamboree until the Corch gets fired, then they do it all over again with the next one.
 
Let's face it, we haven't put a single receiver in the league the past 5 years. I don't expect that to change from any of these receivers that came in as freshmen. They're getting shown up completely by a Buffalo grad transfer.

Pretty sure you can say the same thing about our OL. And again, none of our upper classmen will make it in the league either.

We have one TE who will.

We're simply not that talented on offense. On defense, we've missed dramatically on big time players in the secondary. Our LBs are extremely limited. The only real talent is on the DL and even they haven't been making any impact in the league except for maybe Chad Thomas and all he does is get playing time every now and then.

Coaching has been poor, but CIS loooooveeesss to act like we've got world beaters waiting to be unleashed. Simply not true.
 
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Canesfan0024 said:
Let me state before the majority of this board gets their panties in a bunch, I have no idea how Miami will be under Diaz. But I love how fans are torching him but fail to realize the talent is severely lacking this year.

As of now scouts have 1 player currently who could go as high as the 4th round DeeJay. The two linebackers are late day 3 picks. As far as the Juniors on this team. Garvin and Bandy are boarderline day 3 to undrafted right now. Jeff Thomas undrafted.

Why can’t Miami fans be patient. Are they really stuck in the early 2000’s. Did Richt give you false hope cause of a unicorn year filled with mass turnovers forced and lucky bounces. The majority of the talent we have are pups. They need time to get in a real strength and conditioning program. 6 months for the new guy wasn’t going to make a huge difference although some of the transformation are noticeable, give him another year.

Be a part of the solution and not the problem. Quit bi***ing and support the team and don’t hang on every single word someone makes. It’s petty. This was a rebuilding year no matter what way you slice it from the day we started Zion at left tackle. I’m excited for the future and next years team.

There is no excuse next year, plain and simple. Go Canes.
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The majority of our assistant coaches aren’t good and don’t have the respect of the majority of these kids, and outside of them still being immature that’s part of the reason kids are skipping practice and getting booted from the team and then being voted back on. This has happened multiple times with JW.

There are major lockeroom issues and this isn’t just on the offensive side of the ball. We have some guys that are checked out (older guys) and turn it on and off when they want and are more concerned about themselves and not the team.

These are the issues I have with Manny. 1.). Do I think Manny will make changes on O side of the ball? yes I do. do I think he will correct issues with some of the a Assistants on D?no I don’t.

2.). Lockeroom is a **** show and this includes kids Manny has brought into the program.

3.). Team doesn’t ever look better

4.). Who are the elite recruiters on Staff??
 
Liberty City El said:
I love when they say, "year 1 doesn't count, I'll only judge him in year 2"...

Then year 2 comes around & it's the same results, then they start saying stuff like "It takes 3-4 years for a coach to turn a program around & get his own recruits".

It's just a constant never ending moving of the goalposts excuse jamboree until the Corch gets fired, then they do it all over again with the next one.
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Like you said it's Golden 2.0
 
zanecane said:
Manny was stirring the pot all offseason. Acting like we had the talent to compete right away.

The narrative changed after the losses. It became a lack of talent to deflect from the lack of coaching.

You can believe what you want. I do not believe we lack talent to win the coastal.
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Holy ****, if anyone questions whether we have the talent to win the Coastal, then that counts out FOR SURE Duke, VT, GT, North Carolina, Pitt and UVA.

The winner would have to come from all of the other Coastal squads.

UM
 
CherokeeCane said:
Couldn't an argument be made that the talent out of High School was there (Blue Chip Ratio), but that these players haven't been developed? I am a CMD supporter, but he has had the defense for their entire career. If none of them have developed into high round draft picks it is at least partially because he and his defensive staff have not developed them.
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Who? Pink was a 3 star. Shaq was highly rated but he was always fat and slow and Richt and Felder did nothing about it. Our offensive line consist of a 2 star, 2 star and mid level 3 star. Where’s all this talent you speak of?
 
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tuckg305 said:
Did Manny recruit any of the current talent? Did he develop so called "talent"?
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Richt recruited all of them. And his strength and conditioning coach is suppose to “develop” them. Something that takes a couple years. Too bad that coach was late to his own workouts.
 
I bet you Manny didn't say anything close to this during his interview. I guarantee you that he sold it as Miami was ready to win now.
 
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It’s definitely some of both with a heavy lean towards lack of development on the coaching staph.

But to play along the best prospects are all on O running back to back archaic schemes. Where are the prospects on D outside of 15? Manny recruited this defense so can’t give him an out there
 
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