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Blame talent not coaching

Manny’s tenure has been a disappointment so far of course.

But some things that have occurred that make it look worse than it is, especially in the kicking game and on the offensive line.

We can still salvage a decent season and build on it going forward.

We’ll see.
 
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Sure let me blame Brevin Jordan for his coach calling a tight end jet sweep to the short side of the field. Let me blame a true freshman OT for his coach leaving him out on an island against redshirt seniors and graduate transfers. Let me blame our secondary for their coach calling delay blitzes from across the street that never get there on time. Man you are crazy if you think this coaching staff has done these kids any good in their development. We are starting to become the school where you come with first round talent and leave undrafted or in the later rounds. You want to know why kids go to other schools that is a big reason why. If you are not gonna pay me at least develop me and let me get that first or second day money. We do neither so kids follow the money all day.
 
Canesfan0024 said:
Let me state before the majority of this board gets their panties in a bunch, I have no idea how Miami will be under Diaz. But I love how fans are torching him but fail to realize the talent is severely lacking this year.

As of now scouts have 1 player currently who could go as high as the 4th round DeeJay. The two linebackers are late day 3 picks. As far as the Juniors on this team. Garvin and Bandy are boarderline day 3 to undrafted right now. Jeff Thomas undrafted.

Why can’t Miami fans be patient. Are they really stuck in the early 2000’s. Did Richt give you false hope cause of a unicorn year filled with mass turnovers forced and lucky bounces. The majority of the talent we have are pups. They need time to get in a real strength and conditioning program. 6 months for the new guy wasn’t going to make a huge difference although some of the transformation are noticeable, give him another year.

Be a part of the solution and not the problem. Quit bi***ing and support the team and don’t hang on every single word someone makes. It’s petty. This was a rebuilding year no matter what way you slice it from the day we started Zion at left tackle. I’m excited for the future and next years team.

There is no excuse next year, plain and simple. Go Canes.
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Did Manny recruit any of the current talent? Did he develop so called "talent"?
 
Don canon said:
Sure let me blame Brevin Jordan for his coach calling a tight end jet sweep to the short side of the field. Let me blame a true freshman OT for his coach leaving him out on an island against redshirt seniors and graduate transfers. Let me blame our secondary for their coach calling delay blitzes from across the street that never get there on time. Man you are crazy if you think this coaching staff has done these kids any good in their development. We are starting to become the school where you come with first round talent and leave undrafted or in the later rounds. You want to know why kids go to other schools that is a big reason why. If you are not gonna pay me at least develop me and let me get that first or second day money. We do neither so kids follow the money all day.
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No one on this team has underperformed here then gone on to blow up in the NFL in years.

If anything we’re the team that keeps putting guys into the league but can’t win on Saturdays.
 
Canesfan0024 said:
Let me state before the majority of this board gets their panties in a bunch, I have no idea how Miami will be under Diaz. But I love how fans are torching him but fail to realize the talent is severely lacking this year.

As of now scouts have 1 player currently who could go as high as the 4th round DeeJay. The two linebackers are late day 3 picks. As far as the Juniors on this team. Garvin and Bandy are boarderline day 3 to undrafted right now. Jeff Thomas undrafted.

Why can’t Miami fans be patient. Are they really stuck in the early 2000’s. Did Richt give you false hope cause of a unicorn year filled with mass turnovers forced and lucky bounces. The majority of the talent we have are pups. They need time to get in a real strength and conditioning program. 6 months for the new guy wasn’t going to make a huge difference although some of the transformation are noticeable, give him another year.

Be a part of the solution and not the problem. Quit bi***ing and support the team and don’t hang on every single word someone makes. It’s petty. This was a rebuilding year no matter what way you slice it from the day we started Zion at left tackle. I’m excited for the future and next years team.

There is no excuse next year, plain and simple. Go Canes.
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If talent is at such a pedestrian level. Then why did we promote the defensive coordinator all the way to HC who is responsible for the defensive side of the ball's lack of talent?
 
Go Canes!! said:
No one on this team has underperformed here then gone on to blow up in the NFL in years.

If anything we’re the team that keeps putting guys into the league but can’t win on Saturdays.
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I know you have Manny’s nuts in your mouth so you can’t see the forest pass the trees. You just made my point for me. These kids get drafted and overperfrom in the league when they actually get some good coaching.
 
jackedaround said:
We all know you have to have the best talent to win a title.

We want to live up to our current talent level.

With our current talent level we are under performing. That is the complaint.
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Unfortunately that has been the case for 15 years and wasn't going to get fixed overnight.

Miami has been underperforming for years; lacking the next-level talent it needs to be true contender, but not doing enough to win the sh1tty Coastal Division more than once in 15 tries—and even that win was fool's gold, as listed in the original post. That 10-0 start could've just as easily have been 6-4 without bounces against FSU, GT and UNC, and there's ZERO chance anything less than undefeated Miami (with a packed house and GameDay) was beating Notre Dame. Winning bred success, just as losing has bred failure within this program for years.

Diaz took over a team that was 7-9 since the Pitt loss in 2017 and a program that was 97-71 from the 2005 Peach Bowl to 2018 Pinstripe Bowl.

As much as this team is "underperforming" this year—it simply hasn't gotten any of the breaks Miami saw in 2017—yet it it playing harder, tougher and with more resilience. Could've pulled one off against Florida and North Carolina. Had no business losing to Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech. (That said, if it had beaten either, would Miami have been up for Virginia and Pitt? Maybe not.)

Fans refuse to accept it, but this program DOES have to learn how to win again. Too many close game losses for well over a decade now; playing down to competition, not bouncing back from losses, slow starts where the Canes eventually wake up and need to mount comebacks.

Miami hasn't looked like "Miami" legitimately since the 2003 football season—and even then, was a step off of what it had been the three years prior.

Good teams fall to lesser teams on a weekly basis and lots of good teams play down to their competition with today's kids. Nature of the sport.

Diaz needs to change a culture, recruit some dogs that are Miami-type guys and needs to rebuild the Canes attitude from the ground up—as this thing has been running on mid-level ACC Coastal autopilot for too long now.
 
moshated305 said:
So we have less talent than GT, VT and UNC. We are also close in talent with CMU. Thanks for that OP, clears up a lot.
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Does Georgia have less talent than South Carolina? Does Clemson have barely better talent than North Carolina? Stuff happens on Saturdays
 
Canesfan0024 said:
Let me state before the majority of this board gets their panties in a bunch, I have no idea how Miami will be under Diaz. But I love how fans are torching him but fail to realize the talent is severely lacking this year.

As of now scouts have 1 player currently who could go as high as the 4th round DeeJay. The two linebackers are late day 3 picks. As far as the Juniors on this team. Garvin and Bandy are boarderline day 3 to undrafted right now. Jeff Thomas undrafted.

Why can’t Miami fans be patient. Are they really stuck in the early 2000’s. Did Richt give you false hope cause of a unicorn year filled with mass turnovers forced and lucky bounces. The majority of the talent we have are pups. They need time to get in a real strength and conditioning program. 6 months for the new guy wasn’t going to make a huge difference although some of the transformation are noticeable, give him another year.

Be a part of the solution and not the problem. Quit bi***ing and support the team and don’t hang on every single word someone makes. It’s petty. This was a rebuilding year no matter what way you slice it from the day we started Zion at left tackle. I’m excited for the future and next years team.

There is no excuse next year, plain and simple. Go Canes.
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Please, don't deal in reality.
 
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Canesfan0024 said:
Let me state before the majority of this board gets their panties in a bunch, I have no idea how Miami will be under Diaz. But I love how fans are torching him but fail to realize the talent is severely lacking this year.

As of now scouts have 1 player currently who could go as high as the 4th round DeeJay. The two linebackers are late day 3 picks. As far as the Juniors on this team. Garvin and Bandy are boarderline day 3 to undrafted right now. Jeff Thomas undrafted.

Why can’t Miami fans be patient. Are they really stuck in the early 2000’s. Did Richt give you false hope cause of a unicorn year filled with mass turnovers forced and lucky bounces. The majority of the talent we have are pups. They need time to get in a real strength and conditioning program. 6 months for the new guy wasn’t going to make a huge difference although some of the transformation are noticeable, give him another year.

Be a part of the solution and not the problem. Quit bi***ing and support the team and don’t hang on every single word someone makes. It’s petty. This was a rebuilding year no matter what way you slice it from the day we started Zion at left tackle. I’m excited for the future and next years team.

There is no excuse next year, plain and simple. Go Canes.
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At what positions other than OL do you feel like our talent is lacking?? Honest question
 
Canesfan0024 said:
Let me state before the majority of this board gets their panties in a bunch, I have no idea how Miami will be under Diaz. But I love how fans are torching him but fail to realize the talent is severely lacking this year.

As of now scouts have 1 player currently who could go as high as the 4th round DeeJay. The two linebackers are late day 3 picks. As far as the Juniors on this team. Garvin and Bandy are boarderline day 3 to undrafted right now. Jeff Thomas undrafted.

Why can’t Miami fans be patient. Are they really stuck in the early 2000’s. Did Richt give you false hope cause of a unicorn year filled with mass turnovers forced and lucky bounces. The majority of the talent we have are pups. They need time to get in a real strength and conditioning program. 6 months for the new guy wasn’t going to make a huge difference although some of the transformation are noticeable, give him another year.

Be a part of the solution and not the problem. Quit bi***ing and support the team and don’t hang on every single word someone makes. It’s petty. This was a rebuilding year no matter what way you slice it from the day we started Zion at left tackle. I’m excited for the future and next years team.

There is no excuse next year, plain and simple. Go Canes.
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Great fresh take.
 
Talent isn’t lacking. Experience, development, and preparation is.

It’s not just the players causing this.

Talentwise this team is a capable kicker, and a veteran offensive tackle away from potentially running away with the division in spite of their terrible offense and a defense devoid of depth (outside of the defensive line).

This team with an actual special teams coach probably has 2-3 more wins today.
 
Canesfan0024 said:
Let me state before the majority of this board gets their panties in a bunch, I have no idea how Miami will be under Diaz. But I love how fans are torching him but fail to realize the talent is severely lacking this year.

As of now scouts have 1 player currently who could go as high as the 4th round DeeJay. The two linebackers are late day 3 picks. As far as the Juniors on this team. Garvin and Bandy are boarderline day 3 to undrafted right now. Jeff Thomas undrafted.

Why can’t Miami fans be patient. Are they really stuck in the early 2000’s. Did Richt give you false hope cause of a unicorn year filled with mass turnovers forced and lucky bounces. The majority of the talent we have are pups. They need time to get in a real strength and conditioning program. 6 months for the new guy wasn’t going to make a huge difference although some of the transformation are noticeable, give him another year.

Be a part of the solution and not the problem. Quit bi***ing and support the team and don’t hang on every single word someone makes. It’s petty. This was a rebuilding year no matter what way you slice it from the day we started Zion at left tackle. I’m excited for the future and next years team.

There is no excuse next year, plain and simple. Go Canes.
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And who is responsible for the lack of talent on half of the roster?
 
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miamicanephins said:
No gray areas in football, you are either winning or losing. And if you're not better at the end of the year than you were at the beginning of the year, it's a fail.

To date the ufag game has been the arguably best performance, so...
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Man it's scary to think people like this can just walk by you on the street and you have no idea. ****.
 
Canesfan0024 said:
Let me state before the majority of this board gets their panties in a bunch, I have no idea how Miami will be under Diaz. But I love how fans are torching him but fail to realize the talent is severely lacking this year.

As of now scouts have 1 player currently who could go as high as the 4th round DeeJay. The two linebackers are late day 3 picks. As far as the Juniors on this team. Garvin and Bandy are boarderline day 3 to undrafted right now. Jeff Thomas undrafted.

Why can’t Miami fans be patient. Are they really stuck in the early 2000’s. Did Richt give you false hope cause of a unicorn year filled with mass turnovers forced and lucky bounces. The majority of the talent we have are pups. They need time to get in a real strength and conditioning program. 6 months for the new guy wasn’t going to make a huge difference although some of the transformation are noticeable, give him another year.

Be a part of the solution and not the problem. Quit bi***ing and support the team and don’t hang on every single word someone makes. It’s petty. This was a rebuilding year no matter what way you slice it from the day we started Zion at left tackle. I’m excited for the future and next years team.

There is no excuse next year, plain and simple. Go Canes.
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Because next year will be more of the same. No one on this staff is lighting the recruiting trail on fire.
 
Canesbro31 said:
To be fair OP is kind of right but we should still be 6-2 with decent coaching this year. BUT I watched the FSU game last year a few days ago and when you watch you notice how much losing guys like joe Jackson, Michael Jackson, jaquan, sheldrick, Willis, all of these guys are strides better than the guys that have filled in for them this year.
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6-2 would be completely reasonable thus far.
 
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