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Bill Belichick is a worse coach than Dave Wannstedt

Bender said:
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
but going on a premenstrual angry and unhinged arrogant meltdown while offering your DM mailbox to those who disagree in between emotional retorts and name calling is a really poor look @Bender.
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You can write me personally and find out the truth or you can leave it.

I refuse to debate on here given the circumstances that have been aforementioned. It's either on the same level or it ain't. End of.
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I don’t give a fucc enough enough to do this again. If you have DNA evidence of something to exonerate yourself from attacking folks, you can DM me. I have an inbox too.
 
The Browns also had Nick Saban as his DC throughout BB’s tenure lol. & Saban still worships BB.

Turns out, Bernie Kosar was a worse qb when he didn’t have his college qb coach calling the Browns plays (Marc Trestman).

Also, this thread is hilarious given what actually happened in the game; two hour weather delay in all.

UNC is going to give our team a good test on Halloween just like wake. Bill has 6’0 265 walkon who was committed Austin peavy leading the nation in TFL as a sophomore lmfao. He took a DE from Delaware and had him playing at an elite level. That DLINE has legit nfl players on it & their running game is crisp.

Is bill o brien a better coach than BB because he won without deshaun Watson and has a better college record? Thats absurd.

This is like calling Pete Carroll a Drew Bledsoe, legion of boom, Russell Wilson, and USC championship trio QB/RBs + Carson Palmer merchant.

& his fourth and 1 play call still wasn’t as dumb as carroll’s that cost him a championship.

Both are legends.
 
DMoney said:
Without Tom Brady. The sample size is enormous and the evidence is indisputable. There is no argument anymore.

Bill Belichick as NFL head coach: 83-101 (without Brady)
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inaccurate, overly misleading stat.

BB went 36-44; 1-1 in the postseason with the Browns.

0–1 in 2001 without Brady. I’ll cancel out the game Brady entered and lost in 2001, and the game he started, left, & won in 2008.

BB goes 10-5 in 2008 without Brady. In 2016, the patriots went 3-1 without Brady. Jimmy G played so well under BB that people were ****ed when he didn’t get more draft capital when trading him to the 49ers. Moreover, Kyle Shanahan, who initially wanted to draft MAC JONES the following year, then decided to stick with Jimmy G rather than have Tom Brady end his career in San Francisco. Wes Welker was the 49ers WR coach.

Moving on, he went 29-38, 0-1 in the postseason without Brady at the end.

So 1-2 in the postseason without him, and 79-88 overall in the regular season.

Notably, Michigan Wolverine tom Brady went 1-1 against Bill’s former Browns DC Nick Saban; then Michigan State HC
 
cookies said:
It’s more or less the same very simple correlation doesn’t equal causation take

Jimmy Johnson is a Michael Irvin merchant, there you go for a more accurate example
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Michael Irvin wasn't the most important player to ever play the sport, so no it really isn't. Especially when he had a HOF qb playing for him as well....
Jimmy had 4 losing seasons in his entire life as a coach - and 2 of them were for the rebuilding cowboys.
 
JJ without Michael Irvin: 29-24-1 at ok state

19-6 at Miami; no championships. Couldn’t beat ND without Irvin

Irvin won another championship without JJ coaching the cowboys

36-28 with the dolphins; had Dan Marino throw 5 INTs against his former cowboys. Couldn’t bring Dan Marino to the promised land; forever preventing Marino from remaining in the same conversation as the legendary young quarterbacks on the ascension in the 21st century.

Now get this, first season without JJ, the dolphins improved by two wins and won a playoff game. When JJ got to miami, he failed to improve their record in the first year as they were 9-7 prior then went 8–8 in JJ’s first year. BB improved the Browns immediately and they have been in purgatory since he’s left

Dan Marino is basically James harden to today’s youth
 
Calinative said:
Michael Irvin wasn't the most important player to ever play the sport, so no it really isn't. Especially when he had a HOF qb playing for him as well....
Jimmy had 4 losing seasons in his entire life as a coach - and 2 of them were for the rebuilding cowboys.
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Says you, I say #47 is like a 747 airplane out there, second best WR ever
 
Bender said:
This is the dumbest thread on this platform and it's no surprise given the OP.

Edit: And I don't give a ****. Come at me. I'm locked and loaded for this one. Cause it's the dumbest discussion fed by ******* troglodytes who need a lesson bad.
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Hes already up 14-0 aon you and is crossing midfield currently
 
cookies said:
The Browns also had Nick Saban as his DC throughout BB’s tenure lol. & Saban still worships BB.

Turns out, Bernie Kosar was a worse qb when he didn’t have his college qb coach calling the Browns plays (Marc Trestman).

Also, this thread is hilarious given what actually happened in the game; two hour weather delay in all.

UNC is going to give our team a good test on Halloween just like wake. Bill has 6’0 265 walkon who was committed Austin peavy leading the nation in TFL as a sophomore lmfao. He took a DE from Delaware and had him playing at an elite level. That DLINE has legit nfl players on it & their running game is crisp.

Is bill o brien a better coach than BB because he won without deshaun Watson and has a better college record? Thats absurd.

This is like calling Pete Carroll a Drew Bledsoe, legion of boom, Russell Wilson, and USC championship trio QB/RBs + Carson Palmer merchant.

& his fourth and 1 play call still wasn’t as dumb as carroll’s that cost him a championship.

Both are legends.
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Dude, Trestman was only the Browns OC in 88 and 89.

Kosar took the Browns to the ACC championship in 86 and 87, with no Trestman. Kosar was hurt for the 1988 playoff game.
Kosar played in his third ACC Chanpionship Game in 1989, but his numbers paled to 86 and 87.

Kosar held the NFL postseason passings yards record in 1986 season (1987 game) until it was broken by Tom Brady in 2018.
 
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*chews gum vociferously*
 
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