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Big 10 proposes immediate eligibility for all transfers

skeeter said:
Neither do I.

And they sure as **** better change that initial counter rule if you are going to make it this easy to randomly transfer.
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Regular students with academic scholarships can transfer to a different universities without penalty but athletes must sit out?

I have a big problem treating athletes like slaves or chattel especially when the majority of the athletes in revenue generating sports are black men.

Universities and fans don’t “own” these black athletes. They aren’t animals or slaves; they’re people. They should be free to go whoever the **** the want if they aren’t happy with their current situation- just like other students
 
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Could be a good thing for schools that can’t match the big bags, but would also destroy locker rooms. Half the country would have fractured cultures like ours.
 
No way. This sucks for 2 reasons already stated... its not good for college sports - and by college sports I mean the sports that pay for the rest of college sports. #2 this is some millennial/Z BS where your word and commitment are reduced to meaningless hat-grabbing press events to serve your vanity. Have some conviction, dance with the one that brought you.
 
Liberty City El said:
It would essentially eliminate class rankings.

Because it wouldn't matter who you recruited year in & year out, if a kid ain't starting as a TF, he's outta there.

It would be pure chaos, that could be both good & bad for lots of programs. It would end up being like NFL Free Agency without guaranteed upfront money & signing bonuses.

We would both lose & get good players every year. TBH, I'm not totally against it or for it. I think it could possibly be the grand equalizer for the powerhouse programs that hoard high level talent, but it would also put immense pressure on coaches to have to win big every year or else...

It would kill the lower level teams though, any good player at those programs would get poached by bigger programs every year. And if you're a middle of the road team you're screwed. You'd basically have to win a Natty every year to keep most of your kids & even then many of them would still leave.
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It would ruin CFB. Think of BAMA and Clemson just rotating the best quarterbacks every few years. They won't even have to recruit - it makes recruiting, roster management and evaluating worthless (the heart of CFB IMO). Every proven player will just dip to a powerhouse when the roster is favorable.
 
yeah the more I think about it & read some pretty good posts (yes, there are still some good posters on here) the more I’m against it.
 
A kids going to have a big year at a small school and have bags thrown at him from all the big boys. It’s only a matter of time until the big boys figure out a way to make the system work for them
 
Watching ReUnion we heard how they pushed themselves because they guy behind them might take their job. Now nobody will want to wait. Why sit in line at Georgia when I can start at Duke? Oh, they're bringing in a guy from Georgia because they think he's better? I'll just transfer to West Virginia.
 
Miami[]_[]Smoke said:
the requirement should be that they stay at their first school for at least two years. Don’t see it happening though
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I like that if you're going to go anywhere near this route.

You leave after your first year, you sit out a year. Pretty much like it is now. Very few waivers granted if any.
 
Liberty City El said:
It would essentially eliminate class rankings.

Because it wouldn't matter who you recruited year in & year out, if a kid ain't starting as a TF, he's outta there.

It would be pure chaos, that could be both good & bad for lots of programs. It would end up being like NFL Free Agency without guaranteed upfront money & signing bonuses.

We would both lose & get good players every year. TBH, I'm not totally against it or for it. I think it could possibly be the grand equalizer for the powerhouse programs that hoard high level talent, but it would also put immense pressure on coaches to have to win big every year or else...

It would kill the lower level teams though, any good player at those programs would get poached by bigger programs every year. And if you're a middle of the road team you're screwed. You'd basically have to win a Natty every year to keep most of your kids & even then many of them would still leave.
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here's the solution:

1) lower scholarship limits to somewhere between 65 and 70 players and 20 high school schollys a year (hard cap for both)
2) make freshmen ineligible to transfer without sitting one year
3) hard cap on non scholly (walk on) players to 8 (hard cap)
4) any transfers don't count against the HS annual schooly limits but do count against the hard total cap
5) hard cap on portal transfers per year: you can only replace the same numbers that leave through the portal, or are no longer on the squad due to permanent injury ending their playing career.

Those numbers are big enough to fill a roster. you will get more turnover, but it will absolutely prevent hoarding of players, …. because there is no place to stash them.
 
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TheChosenOne said:
Pros and Cons.

Pros: Bag Game is basically dead. When you pay a kid 30k+ to come to your school and he can dip in a instant paying recruits will seem more and more of a bad investment.

Cons: Tampering. This happens so much in the pros and in HS sports it would run rampant in college football.
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I’m not sure about that. Alabama would simply need to increase their spending, and allocate additional money to lure free agents as necessary.
 
All out Free Agency would be bad for the sport from the fans’ perspective and would essentially create another bag season. Bama, OSU, and Clemson would be offering $500,000+ for Rousseau.

If they do allow that, NCAA needs to create a transfer period before NSD and allow teams to sign as many high schoolers as they want (85 total scholarship cap like usual). Roster turnover for a lot of schools would be 30-40% compared to the regular ~20%.
 
I like it.

Miami seems to do well in the portal. Anything that makes the portal more of a thing is probably good for us.
 
KWConch said:
It will destroy all but the richest schools who will buy players to replace players who leave and won’t have worry about recruiting .
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That’s what they’re doing now.

thus rule would give UM the chance to get those kids that Alabama etc initially paid for, but don’t wanna be there for whatever reason.
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
Could be a good thing for schools that can’t match the big bags, but would also destroy locker rooms. Half the country would have fractured cultures like ours.
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Why? Just because a kid can transfer doesn’t mean he would.
 
We the Boss said:
The NFL doesn’t want 19 year old kids getting mauled.
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An 18 year old can decide to join the military and risk being killed. If an 18 year old wants to try to earn a living in the NFL, it should be his right as an American. Hershel Walker would have been just fine in the NFL. Amobi Okoye was drafted in the NFL when he was 19 and survived. If a team doesn't want to draft an 18 year old, that's up to the team. But the league passing a rule requiring a person be 3 years out of college is a farce and exists only because of collusion with CFB, not because of player safety.
 
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TimeB0mb said:
Here's a better idea. Work with the NFL eliminate the "3 years out of high school" rule.
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How is that a good idea? I like most of your posts. But that one doesn’t make sense.

NFL doesn’t want children. 17 year old children declaring and going undrafted lose the ability to get a free education. People have lost contact with the reality that most college players’ most valuable commodity is the free degree because they ain’t going to the league. You should never design any rule so that it is focused on an outlier fact pattern. The one or two clowney types can do their 3 years and then still be millionaires.

Three years of college ball or 21 works well.
 
TimeB0mb said:
An 18 year old can decide to join the military and risk being killed. If an 18 year old wants to try to earn a living in the NFL, it should be his right as an American. Hershel Walker would have been just fine in the NFL. Amobi Okoye was drafted in the NFL when he was 19 and survived. If a team doesn't want to draft an 18 year old, that's up to the team. But the league passing a rule requiring a person be 3 years out of college is a farce and exists only because of collusion with CFB, not because of player safety.
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Untrue. The league and the nfl players do not want those under 21. That is the bargained deal. This has been litigated in the clarret case. Circuit court said no anti trust violation. And I think that was Sotomayer for the court who is a lib.
 
The Svengali said:
Regular students with academic scholarships can transfer to a different universities without penalty but athletes must sit out?

I have a big problem treating athletes like slaves or chattel especially when the majority of the athletes in revenue generating sports are black men.

Universities and fans don’t “own” these black athletes. They aren’t animals or slaves; they’re people. They should be free to go whoever the **** the want if they aren’t happy with their current situation- just like other students
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This! It’s why I laugh when folks are so heavily opposed to things like this. Are they or are they not STUDENT-athletes?!
 
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