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Another one of Fraulden's brilliant moves. Take Mr. Football in TN who was a stud RB and KR and switch him to DB. Kid would be murder as a RB for us.
 
This guy should have the ball in his hands. Can he play ironman?
 
CaneTheGaytors said:
Another one of Fraulden's brilliant moves. Take Mr. Football in TN who was a stud RB and KR and switch him to DB. Kid would be murder as a RB for us.
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He is just a good football player. He has an even higher ceiling at cb
 
**** i always thought he came in from Juco, I never knew he was Mr Football in Tenn.... dammit mane...
 
brock said:
CaneTheGaytors said:
Another one of Fraulden's brilliant moves. Take Mr. Football in TN who was a stud RB and KR and switch him to DB. Kid would be murder as a RB for us.
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He is just a good football player. He has an even higher ceiling at cb
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Agree with you about the "good football player" part. Disagree with you on the higher ceiling for him being at DB. When you have a guy as electric as this kid is, you get the rock in his hands.
 
BigDikCane said:
**** i always thought he came in from Juco, I never knew he was Mr Football in Tenn.... dammit mane...
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Cash was on this kid before we signed him. He alerted us as to the special type of talent and intangibles that this kid was bringing with him to the U.
 
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rayray said:
patrick peterson played CB too, you dummies
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Patrick Peterson wasn't an all everything Mr.Football that had starred at RB and KR you dummy. PP was a great player in his own right and electric as a returner, but not an experienced RB. Devin Hester is an incredibly electric player, but struggled to be a dominant offensive player. Point being, speed and talent don't necessarily make you an elite RB. Corn has the vision, instincts and experience playing the position that makes for a stud RB, at least at the college level, in my opinion. Plus enough speed. Too small for the pros, but for college he would be a deadly scat back.

It took a serious injury to Berrios for him to get a shot at returning punts. Shows you the lack of team management and positional evaluation skills that Fraulden had displayed while corching at the U.
 
kid weighed like 160 coming into college, walton is 210. He’s amazing with the ball in his hands which is why he’s the return man. But he has a huge ceiling at DB and cannot sustain work load of an RB in a power conference was not a bad move by golden at all.
 
407cane said:
kid weighed like 160 coming into college, walton is 210. He’s amazing with the ball in his hands which is why he’s the return man. But he has a huge ceiling at DB and cannot sustain work load of an RB in a power conference was not a bad move by golden at all.
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That's revisionist history. The only reasons we saw what Elder could do as a punt returner tonight are because Berrios got injured early and Waters muffed one (though fair catch interference was called on Bethune). Golden, in his infinite wisdom as the special teams coach, didn't realize what type of playmaker he had with Elder until the first game of his junior season.

It's inexplicable that it took this long to give such a talented return man an opportunity. And it only happened due to injury and another player's mistake.
 
01Canes said:
407cane said:
kid weighed like 160 coming into college, walton is 210. He’s amazing with the ball in his hands which is why he’s the return man. But he has a huge ceiling at DB and cannot sustain work load of an RB in a power conference was not a bad move by golden at all.
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That's revisionist history. The only reasons we saw what Elder could do as a punt returner tonight are because Berrios got injured early and Waters muffed one (though fair catch interference was called on Bethune). Golden, in his infinite wisdom as the special teams coach, didn't realize what type of playmaker he had with Elder until the first game of his junior season.

It's inexplicable that it took this long to give such a talented return man an opportunity. And it only happened due to injury and another player's mistake.
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so true what an incompentent coach thank god god himself makes a way for some of these guys to shine
 
01Canes said:
407cane said:
kid weighed like 160 coming into college, walton is 210. He’s amazing with the ball in his hands which is why he’s the return man. But he has a huge ceiling at DB and cannot sustain work load of an RB in a power conference was not a bad move by golden at all.
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That's revisionist history. The only reasons we saw what Elder could do as a punt returner tonight are because Berrios got injured early and Waters muffed one (though fair catch interference was called on Bethune). Golden, in his infinite wisdom as the special teams coach, didn't realize what type of playmaker he had with Elder until the first game of his junior season.

It's inexplicable that it took this long to give such a talented return man an opportunity. And it only happened due to injury and another player's mistake.
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I mean I see what you’re saying but it was apparent two years ago that the staff made the right decision having Stacy Coley return kicks because he was a highlight reel. and although he was in a slump, I don’t think you can argue with having dorsett and Coley return kicks last year. Either one were able to bust a long one anytime they touched the ball.

Elder balled out don’t get me wrong, but we were playing Bethune, let’s wait until Nebraska before we call him amazing.
 
407cane said:
kid weighed like 160 coming into college, walton is 210. He’s amazing with the ball in his hands which is why he’s the return man. But he has a huge ceiling at DB and cannot sustain work load of an RB in a power conference was not a bad move by golden at all.
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Are you trying to say Golden made a move that wasn't bad? You're wrong.
 
CaneTheGaytors said:
rayray said:
patrick peterson played CB too, you dummies
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Patrick Peterson wasn't an all everything Mr.Football that had starred at RB and KR you dummy. PP was a great player in his own right and electric as a returner, but not an experienced RB. Devin Hester is an incredibly electric player, but struggled to be a dominant offensive player. Point being, speed and talent don't necessarily make you an elite RB. Corn has the vision, instincts and experience playing the position that makes for a stud RB, at least at the college level, in my opinion. Plus enough speed. Too small for the pros, but for college he would be a deadly scat back.

It took a serious injury to Berrios for him to get a shot at returning punts. Shows you the lack of team management and positional evaluation skills that Fraulden had displayed while corching at the U.
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You must not be from south florida to say that about Patrick Peterson (then patrick johnson). He played QB, RB, CB, KR, PR. Cris Carter even said something about him doing it all as Carter was helping coach St. Thomas Aquinas while Peterson was at Ely.
 
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Wow, nobody given much credit at any other position but Elder gets to the house and he is Devin Hester?

Laughable about RB. We had a Mr Tenn at RB and I am sure Craig wishes he would have played DB right now getting a pay check.
 
pkk1927 said:
CaneTheGaytors said:
rayray said:
patrick peterson played CB too, you dummies
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Patrick Peterson wasn't an all everything Mr.Football that had starred at RB and KR you dummy. PP was a great player in his own right and electric as a returner, but not an experienced RB. Devin Hester is an incredibly electric player, but struggled to be a dominant offensive player. Point being, speed and talent don't necessarily make you an elite RB. Corn has the vision, instincts and experience playing the position that makes for a stud RB, at least at the college level, in my opinion. Plus enough speed. Too small for the pros, but for college he would be a deadly scat back.

It took a serious injury to Berrios for him to get a shot at returning punts. Shows you the lack of team management and positional evaluation skills that Fraulden had displayed while corching at the U.
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You must not be from south florida to say that about Patrick Peterson (then patrick johnson). He played QB, RB, CB, KR, PR. Cris Carter even said something about him doing it all as Carter was helping coach St. Thomas Aquinas while Peterson was at Ely.
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I grew up in SoFla, since I was 7. I have only been out of state since 2008. I saw all of the great Miami teams from the first National Championship in 83' til now.

I did not follow high-school football until just a few seasons ago, so it's my bad on not knowing that PP played all of those positions. The point I was making is still the same. Corn was Mr. Football in TN. And before you all start talking **** about FL players being way better than other players, Corn is one one the best athletes and players on our team.

Also, a lot of our legendary players were from out-of-state, for example (Ed Reed, Reggie Wayne, Ken Dorsey, D.J. Williams, Vinny Testaverde, Bernie Kosar, Cortez Kennedy, Rusty Medearis, Jessie Armstead, Rob Chudzinski, Jeremy Shockey, Kellen Winslow II, Bryant McKinnie, Steve Walsh, Kevin Williams, Cleveland Gary, Bubba Franks, Danny Stubbs, Greg Mark, Russell Maryland, Gino Torreta) just to name a few.

Not to say that Florida doesn't produce more talented players than other states as a whole, but we still have traditionally had great players from other states.
 
Would have been All Sec running back if he had gone to Tenn....Can't believe Al can ***** it up any worse..
 
Corn himself will be very happy as a CB. That's his $ position for the NFL. When you place guys at their money positions, they tend to focus more and are generally more motivated to continue to expand their games. It's a mutual benefit for the team and the individual player.

I'll agree that he should have been given a substantial opportunity to return from the very beginning. If you pop in the minimal film of when he was given a chance to return kicks, he pops off the screen.
 
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