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BCS vs CFP 11/12/19

305to954 said:
So you’d keep Bama out because they loss to LSU?..if LSU has loss would u keep them out too? Who on Utah’s or Minnesota’s schedule are even close to a LSU?..if Alabama beats AU what win on Utah or Minnesota schedule beats that?..if Bama runs the table the rest of their games they’re in..unless Minnesota dominates the rest of their games
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Penn State was number 4 so I assume they were/are better than Auburn
 
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Caneadian said:
I will never understand this. Them at 4 is like saying. Losing to South Carolina doesnt count. You are in the playoff. Oregon, Minny, OU, even Penn St ? Why are not they 4? I'll answer. Because they arent in the SEC. Plain and Simple
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we only count if you won or if you lost..doesn’t matter to who you win or lost against ..who you squeaked by...apparently that’s the criteria when it comes to Bama. So let it be the same for everyone else..Minnesota is the 3rd best team is the country it’s final...
 
305to954 said:
I’d say a 5 point loss to LSU makes up for that..non conference schedules are made years in advance...i could see if Bama was squeaking by, then got dominated vs LSU. Then I’d say yeah Bama is getting hyped for no reason. But they’ve handled, blown out everything in front of them..Utah has a loss..Minnesota has a 7 point win vs South Dakota state, 7 point win vs Purdue. 3 pt OT win vs Fresno. 3 pt win vs Georgia southern. 5 point win vs penn state off penn state when state had the ball in territory for the win but the QB threw it away...minn and Utah are the teams in the debate..Utah loss to USC..nothing on either resume is equal to a 5 point loss to the now ranked number 1 team..I left UGA out because they have a clear path to get in if the win the SEC
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So you're rewarding a 5 point loss to a CFP team and Punishing a 5 point win against a CFP team
 
blushrts said:
This. Alabama is being overrated because of past seasons. They haven't beaten anyone and that game wasn't close until the end. So if Georgia beats LSU, do we have 3 teams from the SEC in the playoff? You don't win your conference championship, let alone even play in it, you shouldn't get in.
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I don’t think you should HAVE to win your conference, but if you aren’t even winning your own division then I don’t think you should have much of a chance to get in
 
305to954 said:
the bolded is my point..and Oregon and Utah’s wins and the fashion they have won does not impress me. If and when Bama goes out and smashes AU how will that impressive Oregon win look then? If Bama was squeaking by the teams Oregon, Minnesota, Utah were you’d hold it against them I’m sure..all in all it’s a lot of Bama fatigue. That’s natural. I’m about seeing the best 4 get in. And if that means a 1 loss Bama then I’m for it
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So you're doing the whole Auburn comparison thing. If Oregon wins the Pac-12 by beating a top 10 Utah team, they deserve to be in. They will have a better win than Alabama, who might not have a ranked team on their schedule other than LSU.

Alabama has had two tests in the past 11 months, and they gave up 45 and 46 points. Quit relying on the past.
 
PanamaCityCanes said:
So you're doing the whole Auburn comparison thing. If Oregon wins the Pac-12 by beating a top 10 Utah team, they deserve to be in. They will have a better win than Alabama, who might not have a ranked team on their schedule other than LSU.

Alabama has had two tests in the past 11 months, and they gave up 45 and 46 points. Quit relying on the past.
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tbh y’all just have Bama fatigue which is fair. Your holding Bama to a standard that you hold absolutely nobody else. If Bama beat South Dakota by 3 and ga southern by 3 in the same season y’all would hold it against them. There’s the Bama standard, then the everybody else standard
 
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There is still 3 games to go the top teams will be playing in many of those games against each other let it play out it's to early to be saying who should be in. The better teams will rise up.
 
305to954 said:
tbh y’all just have Bama fatigue which is fair. Your holding Bama to a standard that you hold absolutely nobody else. If Bama beat South Dakota by 3 and ga southern by 3 in the same season y’all would hold it against them. There’s the Bama standard, then the everybody else standard
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Except that no one is doing that. We're actually fairly comparing them to other teams. Alabama has played one tough game and they have one loss. That puts you on the bubble along with the other questionable teams. No one really cares that they ran it up on Arkansas and Tennessee. Show us how you do in tough games. Oregon is in the same boat. But Oregon has a higher ceiling.
 
305to954 said:
Your right...Minnesota matter of fact should be ranked before Clemson too..since Clemson plays nobody lol
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Clemson has not lost. If you lose you should be in wait and see mode for your body of work at the end of the year so as of TODAY Bama should not be ranked over Minnesota along with Georgia Utah and Oregon. Instead you have 1 loss teams that are in the driver seat.
 
305to954 said:
Bama goes on and beats Aurburn and finishes with the only loss being to LSU (who they only lost to by 5 in a epic game) you put that loss next to the other one loss teams Alabama should get more reprieve for that. As should any team in that situation. Next you look at the eye test.
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I think everybody point is that Bama just isn't that good this year and they shouldn't have the benefit of the doubt. You keep saying the LSU loss was close and EPIC, LSU was up 33-10 at the half and 46-34 with less than 1:30 to go, Bama needed a punt return and a DB going AWOL to make it respectable, Bama got beat clean.
It's like us saying we could have beated UF if this and that went our way, but forgetting that we needed Franks to hand us the ball 4x to make it that close.

As for Baylor, Minn, Oregon and Utah they imo are fodder for #1, but they earned the right to be there. Even if Bama beated Auburn, Minn has a better win against PSU and they would have to beat OSU to get there, IF Baylor wins out they would have to beat OU 2x, OKST, KSST and Texas, all teams ranked at some point in the middle/late in season. Utah is whatever tbh, I don't trust Cristobal coaching at all, but Oregon is a talented team, with a top 5 CFB QB, that I think can hang with the top 3 too, so why should they as champs be out. You would need to put Bama/SEC colored glasses to put them in the CFP this year, even OU would have better quality wins if they win out.
 
305to954 said:
So you’d keep Bama out because they loss to LSU?..if LSU has loss would u keep them out too? Who on Utah’s or Minnesota’s schedule are even close to a LSU?..if Alabama beats AU what win on Utah or Minnesota schedule beats that?..if Bama runs the table the rest of their games they’re in..unless Minnesota dominates the rest of their games
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LSU beat #9 Texas, #7 Florida, #9 Auburn, and #3 Bama. Bama’s wins aren’t even comparable to LSU’s wins. If LSU wins out and loses to UGA in SECCG they absolutely have a good case to be in.
 
It’s clear 305to954 has a hard on for Bama and can’t take history out of this. If Bama didn’t have Bama’s history then he would view them like he is viewing Utah and Minnesota.
 
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PanamaCityCanes said:
Except that no one is doing that. We're actually fairly comparing them to other teams. Alabama has played one tough game and they have one loss. That puts you on the bubble along with the other questionable teams. No one really cares that they ran it up on Arkansas and Tennessee. Show us how you do in tough games. Oregon is in the same boat. But Oregon has a higher ceiling.
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it’s not fair if your comparing them to Utah, who loss to usc..Minnesota who squeaked by two Cupcakes, and Oregon..if LSU had lost to Bama I’d still have LSU in the top 4 the same as I do Bama now. Because they are both 4 of the best teams..if Oregon, Minnesota, or Utah we’re blowing the teams out they played then lost by 5 to a team like LSU, I’d give them the same respect x
 
jsm1399 said:
LSU beat #9 Texas, #7 Florida, #9 Auburn, and #3 Bama. Bama’s wins aren’t even comparable to LSU’s wins. If LSU wins out and loses to UGA in SECCG they absolutely have a good case to be in.
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With that said LSU should be more then 5 points better then Bama..but we know they weren’t..so what should that tell about the quality of Bama..
 
305to954 said:
tbh y’all just have Bama fatigue which is fair. Your holding Bama to a standard that you hold absolutely nobody else. If Bama beat South Dakota by 3 and ga southern by 3 in the same season y’all would hold it against them. There’s the Bama standard, then the everybody else standard
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No, you buy in to the 'Bama worship where they automatically get top consideration. Bottom line, as the other poster stated, is that a one-loss Oregon team has a BETTER resume than a one-loss 'Bama team....because Oregon will have more signature wins.
 
305to954 said:
it’s not fair if your comparing them to Utah, who loss to usc..Minnesota who squeaked by two Cupcakes, and Oregon..if LSU had lost to Bama I’d still have LSU in the top 4 the same as I do Bama now. Because they are both 4 of the best teams..if Oregon, Minnesota, or Utah we’re blowing the teams out they played then lost by 5 to a team like LSU, I’d give them the same respect x
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You just refuse to read anything I'm writing. Oregon, Utah, Alabama, Georgia...they all put themselves in this position by losing a game. All you can come back with is margin of victory against bad teams.
 
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