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You all think that someone could come in an introduce a new defensive scheme under Manny? Or should I say would Manny let someone come in and run a new defense?
 
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CoronaDoug said:
You all think that someone could come in an introduce a new defensive scheme under Manny? Or should I say would Manny let someone come in and run a new defense?
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If he truly cares about this program and actually winning he will make changes and not be a stubborn *** like the past two coaches who in 8 years never fired one coach
 
CoronaDoug said:
You all think that someone could come in an introduce a new defensive scheme under Manny? Or should I say would Manny let someone come in and run a new defense?
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He runs the 4-2-5. But Manny would never hire him & honestly he probably wouldn't want to come here anyway.

He'll end up as an analyst on a SEC staff while getting the rest of his money on his contract.
 
Liberty City El said:
He runs the 4-2-5. But Manny would never hire him & honestly he probably wouldn't want to come here anyway.

He'll end up as an analyst on a SEC staff while getting the rest of his money on his contract.
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We run a 4-2-5 here. It’s impossible to run a defense in today’s game without a extra DB in the box to combat the spread. Manny probably won’t hire this cat. But he needs a stronger personality on that side of the ball. Baker probably knows Xs n Os but the guys don’t seem to respond to him for whatever reason. Manny was a strong personality that they were used too. It shouldn’t take the HC to take on that responsibility for one side of the ball.

if manny is smart he addresses that this offseason.
 
305to954 said:
We run a 4-2-5 here. It’s impossible to run a defense in today’s game without a extra DB in the box to combat the spread. Manny probably won’t hire this cat. But he needs a stronger personality on that side of the ball. Baker probably knows Xs n Os but the guys don’t seem to respond to him for whatever reason. Manny was a strong personality that they were used too. It shouldn’t take the HC to take on that responsibility for one side of the ball.

if manny is smart he addresses that this offseason.
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I know we run the 4-2-5, I was responding to the poster that was saying "you all think someone could come in & introduce a new defensive scheme under Manny?" I was telling him Odom does run a 4-2-5 lol.

And I agree that we definitely need a a true leader on the Defensive side of the ball for the Coaches, but I said in an earlier post I don't think Manny would ever hire Odom because he's too strong of a personality for Manny & he wouldn't want his DC to usurp his power.

Baker is his protege, he's not going to fire him at all. But I 1,000% agree that he shouldn't have been handed the DC job so quickly, he should've been brought on as a LB's coach & learned under the tutelage of Diaz for a year. He could've still held a Co-DC title in name only, but Diaz should've ran the Defense himself & just taught Baker how he wants everything to be run before he gave him full control of the Defense.
 
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Liberty City El said:
I know we run the 4-2-5, I was responding to the poster that was saying "you all think someone could come in & introduce a new defensive scheme under Manny?" I was telling him Odom does run a 4-2-5 lol.

And I agree that we definitely need a a true leader on the Defensive side of the ball for the Coaches, but I said in an earlier post I don't think Manny would ever hire Odom because he's too strong of a personality for Manny & he wouldn't want his DC to usurp his power.

Baker is his protege, he's not going to fire him at all. But I 1,000% agree that he shouldn't have been handed the DC job so quickly, he should've been brought on as a LB's coach & learned under the tutelage of Diaz for a year. He could've still held a Co-DC title in name only, but Diaz should've ran the Defense himself & just taught Baker how he wants everything to be run before he gave him full control of the Defense.
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And on the flip side of the OC coin. Several Cane dudes have mentioned bringing in Fedora, and as you have alluded to above about Odom's personality quirks. Diaz wouldn't hire Fedora for the same reasons. Fedora would undermine his HC badge and all that.
 
Diaz isn’t playing the “firing card” until he knows he needs to. He can run this long valued play on the current admin bozos and gain another year of employment.
 
Liberty City El said:
I know we run the 4-2-5, I was responding to the poster that was saying "you all think someone could come in & introduce a new defensive scheme under Manny?" I was telling him Odom does run a 4-2-5 lol.

And I agree that we definitely need a a true leader on the Defensive side of the ball for the Coaches, but I said in an earlier post I don't think Manny would ever hire Odom because he's too strong of a personality for Manny & he wouldn't want his DC to usurp his power.

Baker is his protege, he's not going to fire him at all. But I 1,000% agree that he shouldn't have been handed the DC job so quickly, he should've been brought on as a LB's coach & learned under the tutelage of Diaz for a year. He could've still held a Co-DC title in name only, but Diaz should've ran the Defense himself & just taught Baker how he wants everything to be run before he gave him full control of the Defense.
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totally agree. Except for having Diaz run things on Defense. The defense can be Mannys baby per se. but he needs someone over there he can trust to run it. That’s essential. You don’t want it be a situation where it seems the players are so used to manny that they only respond or feel accountable when manny is in the room or involved
 
***-e-skr said:
Diaz isn’t playing the “firing card” until he knows he needs to. He can run this long valued play on the current admin bozos and gain another year of employment.
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Hes going to ride the missed field goals/almost won/we fought in every game card all offseason.

If Enos goes itll be bc he LEFT. I dont see Manny firing anyone.
 
HurricaneHauk said:
What does Manny have to do with Shannon not being good?

You think Sean Taylor wouldn’t have been a legend if Shannon didn’t coach him? Wilfork?Vilma?

Give me a break

I have multiple posts about Diaz being overrated as DC so don’t go “slurper” like a child

How has Shannon done without elite level talent?
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I think the point being that as overrated as Shannon may have been, he still blows Manny out of the water as a coordinator and position coach.

And before its all over he will be considered a better HC than Diaz too.
 
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