dedostheibis
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Them all white trophies them leather helmet trophies dont matter
I'm glad you created this thread because I was just going to do it. This is the main reason I don't like Alabama 16 titles really? At best this is like their 10 or 11 but definitely not 16. Back then they used to crown you national title before playing the title game. What a joke...
List I saw has them at 10 which was [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] . Notre Dame was second with 8.
Look, not hating on the program; they're like the Boston Celtics. Most of those titles came when parity wasn't around. Can't take anything away from them. They're a historic program. Buuuuuuuut, F them!
Alabama's claimed championships
1930-- The 1930 team, coached by Wallace Wade, completed the regular season 9-0-0, winning the Southern Conference championship. Alabama was then invited to play Washington State in the January 1, 1931 Rose Bowl. Coach Wade's team defeated the Cougars 24-0 to finish the season 10-0-0. The outstanding player of the game was John Campbell. Park Davis retroactively awarded Alabama a share in the national championship in his analysis for Spalding's Football Guide in 1934. The contemporary ****enson, Dunkel and Houlgate rankings gave Notre Dame, also 10-0, the championship. The Fighting Irish are recognized as champions in the NCAA record book.
1941-- The 1941 team, coached by Frank W. Thomas, completed the regular season 8-2-0. Alabama's squad finished 3rd in the Southeastern Conference after suffering losses to Mississippi State and Vanderbilt. Alabama was ranked 20th in the final Associated Press poll, but defeated the Texas A&M Aggies 29-21 in the January 1, 1942 Cotton Bowl to finish the season 9-2-0. The outstanding players of the game were Holt Rast, Don Whitmire, and Jimmy Nelson. The only selector giving Alabama the title that year was Deke Houlgate's retroactive system. Big Ten champion Minnesota (8-0) was credited as national champion in 12 other polls and in the NCAA record book.
1964-- The 1964 team, coached by Bear Bryant, completed the regular season 10-0-0, winning the Southeastern Conference championship. Alabama was led by quarterback Joe Namath. Alabama was then invited to play the Texas Longhorns in the January 1, 1965 Orange Bowl. Coach Bryant's team lost to the Longhorns 21-17 to finish the season 10-1-0. The outstanding player of the game was Joe Namath. Organizations crediting Alabama with the championship included the Associated Press, United Press International, and Litkenhous. Because of the controversy, the AP decided to wait until after the bowl games to select their champion in the 1965 season. Arkansas and Notre Dame were also credited with the championship that year, although Notre Dame does include it as one of their 11 claimed championships.
1973-- The 1973 team, coached by Bear Bryant, completed the regular season 11-0-0, winning the Southeastern Conference championship. Alabama was then invited to play Notre Dame in the December 31, 1973 Sugar Bowl. Coach Bryant's team lost to the Fighting Irish 24-23 to finish the season 11-1-0. The 1973 Alabama football team was selected national champions by the Coaches Poll as at the time the final poll was announced prior to the bowl games. Because of the controversy after the bowl loss, the Coaches Poll began selecting their champion after the bowl games starting in 1974.
The NCAA recognizes 12 titles for Bama, counting the pre-poll era selections.
The big twist to this story came in 1982, when then-SID Wayne Atcheson added five national title claims to what was then only six in the Alabama media guide. Per this story from AL.com in 2010:
"I want to say the right thing here. I made the change because Coach Bryant had these 25 years and six national championships and they were emphasized so much. It was on all the stationery. And when I got there, it was a matter of seeing there were five others (before Bryant) and we should put them all together. It was as simple as that."
According to ESPN Stats & Information, the Crimson Tide have won 11 overall national championships in the poll era (since 1936), which are the most of any team.
If someone labeled us champ in ancient times, we'd claim it. This topic, when it comes up, typically sounds like sour grapes. They're one of college football's tradition laden program, respect.
You better believe if we had titles in the 20's, or 30's, we're claiming those. If ur a champ, ur a champ...not taking that away from them.
Exactly. Im a Packers fan and we won 13 titles but "it doesnt count" because it was so long ago. FOH.
That's not the same. The reason they don't count those other 9 titles is because they were pre SB era. The only titles the nfl counts is SB titles, which was the championship game between the AFL and NFL