Article on the success rate of recruiting and developing a quarterback

You're only allowed 85 scholarships for football. How the **** is anyone going to justify using 5 of them on quarterbacks? The one position that only one person can play at a time?
 
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You're only allowed 85 scholarships for football. How the **** is anyone going to justify using 5 of them on quarterbacks? The one position that only one person can play at a time?

Speaking of schollys......when was the last time we actually had 85 guys on scholly?
 
Speaking of schollys......when was the last time we actually had 85 guys on scholly?

That's what I'm talkin' about.

There are plenty of empty slots to sign a handful of QBs since only 1 out of 4 is gonna become a legitimate starter.
 
So we're trending up then? Our current back up QBs seem better. ( No dis on E. Sands . I have nothing but love for the MCC Chiefs) now we need Donaldson or Scaife to be our Mckinnie and we're looking at #6.
 
I think this is a really a knock on "blue chip" status being given out based more on a player fitting into a prototypical mold and less on whether or not they can actually play. If a guy is 6'4"/220lbs, he's a blue chipper even if he's spent his entire HS career in a one-read system where he's never had to develop the ability to diagnose and process more than just very basic defensive reads.

I think it's also the prevalence of these systems where schools are content to just stick an athlete back there and let him out athlete the defense. HS systems that actually develop these guys with all the subtle nuances of being a QB are few and far between. This has been a part of HS football for as long as anyone can remember, but the last 10 years or so, you're really starting to see it spill over to Division 1 college ball. Both because many teams simply don't have the luxury of sitting a guy behind a veteran starter and allowing him to develop, and because a lot of programs are just fine and dandy with a guy who can out athlete 8 to 10 teams a year and get beat by the 2-4 teams who can play disciplined defense well enough to contain a one man show.

Two guys immediately come to mind.

1. Lamar Jackson. Superb athlete who was just the best guy on the field in 8 to 10 games every year, and Bobby Patrino was content with winning 8 to 10 games a year, so IMO, he crafted the offense around maximizing that rather than taking the time to hone his skills as a passer.

2. Deshaun Watson. Started out the same way as Jackson. The best athlete on the field in at least 10 games each year. The difference is, Clemson and Deshaun were not content with that. Deshaun actually took labels like "athlete" and "Dual-Threat" as an insult. Deshaun busted his *** and had the support staff willing to develop and hone his abilities as a passer. As a result, Deshaun became one of the best passers in the league and won a National Championship.

But for every Deshaun Watson, there are 4 or 5 Lamar Jacksons and Vince Youngs, and that is borne out by the evidence in this article.
If Lamar Jackson played for a team with as much talent as Clemson he would've won a National title as well.

He threw for 3,543yds 30TD's & 9INT's as a true Sophomore & actually improved in every category as a passer his Junior year.

When you have a dynamically skilled QB like a Lamar or Vince Young, you have no choice but to tailor the offense around their ability to run. Vince Young literally won a national championship because of it.
 
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We've been through this ourselves recently with "Blue Chip" QB's

Kaaya worked out
Olsen & Allison didn't
Perry & Williams are TBD

If just 2 out of 5 work out, we're still doing pretty good.

You can't ever assume you've landed your QB of the future. You have to keep stacking talent every year because you never know how it's going to work out.
 
If Lamar Jackson played for a team with as much talent as Clemson he would've won a National title as well.

He threw for 3,543yds 30TD's & 9INT's as a true Sophomore & actually improved in every category as a passer his Junior year.

When you have a dynamically skilled QB like a Lamar or Vince Young, you have no choice but to tailor the offense around their ability to run. Vince Young literally won a national championship because of it.
I agree with your point about having to roll with that system when you have those elite guys, but again, for every Vince Young, there's a pile of guys who just aren't quite good enough at this level of competition to do those types of things. One read guys who continue to perform as well as Lamar and Vince did against the top level defenses in this league are extremely rare.
 
1. A lot of that is due to there being not a lot of quality QB recruits. Look how many of those guys have an 80 rating. 80 is the lowest ESPN will give you and you can still be a 4*. Is anybody really shocked that barely 4* recruits have a low hit rate?

2. A lot of this is due to the fact that a few teams seem to be monopolizing all the recruits. When only one QB can play, if one team is signing a 5* recruit every year, of course they are going to have a lot of transfers. That doesn't mean there is a low "hit rate" in the sense that there has been a misevaluation in the recruiting rankings or by teams.
Justice Hansen is one of the top QBs in college football. Oklahoma "hit" on him. ESPN was right about him. Oklahoma just happened to be right about some other QBs too. And they were even better. So Hansen had to go be awesome at Arkansas State.
 
They have 3 guys on the squad for next year so there is some depth. But in 2020 then need to land Max Johnson for sure and another good guy in all probability.

That’s the thinking that gets you screwed, just ask Wandy.

Kids transfer at this time like no other. Kids also get kicked off or flunk out. Weldon alone is already got a strike against him.


There’s a reason you take a qb every class, it’s not crazy to lose 2-3 kids in a year.
 
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