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Great read. All of our great coaches had different methods. I Dont know about all these revisionists and their version. Every miami champion followed a DIFFERENT blueprint

But all the coaches had the ability to do more with less overall
 
tbaycane said:
Great read. All of our great coaches had different methods. I Dont know about all these revisionists and their version. Every miami champion followed a DIFFERENT blueprint

But all the coaches had the ability to do more with less overall
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I disagree. I think the blueprint has always been the same, unless we are defining blueprint in different ways.
 
I mean howards offense changed things.

Jimmy and the 43

Dennis and the OneBack spread

Butch had a ridiculous eye for talent unheard of. He built a superbowl capable roster in college ...
 
I have a bigger problem: somehow, we've allowed the 'U' standard to be completely re-constructed.


Basically sums up how I feel a out the program, the coaches, the administrators, and the new generation of "canes" fans.
 
All our great coaches were innovative and had great football minds. They all brought something new to the program or to college football in general. Butch's talent or innovation was his talent evaluation. Guy is the best in the business. Since Coker we've stopped getting these types of coaches and just settled for guys that are "Miami guys" or run a pro style. That is the antithesis of what the program was built upon.

We need forward thinking coaches that know how to run a program. That's what's been missing IMO.
 
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NVA CANE said:
All our great coaches were innovative and had great football minds. They all brought something new to the program or to college football in general. Butch's talent or innovation was his talent evaluation. Guy is the best in the business. Since Coker we've stopped getting these types of coaches and just settled for guys that are "Miami guys" or run a pro style. That is the antithesis of what the program was built upon.

We need forward thinking coaches that know how to run a program. That's what's been missing IMO.
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This is why I like this Bob Stitt fellow. The up tempo spread offense really is taylor made for our recruiting base as well.
 
terdferguson said:
NVA CANE said:
All our great coaches were innovative and had great football minds. They all brought something new to the program or to college football in general. Butch's talent or innovation was his talent evaluation. Guy is the best in the business. Since Coker we've stopped getting these types of coaches and just settled for guys that are "Miami guys" or run a pro style. That is the antithesis of what the program was built upon.

We need forward thinking coaches that know how to run a program. That's what's been missing IMO.
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This is why I like this Bob Stitt fellow. The up tempo spread offense really is taylor made for our recruiting base as well.
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Along those same lines. How do we feel about Butch in today's college landscape? We know his talent evaluation skills are elite, but what bout his offensive and defensive philosophy? Does he adapt favorably to today's uptempo, spread 'em out style?
 
tbaycane said:
I mean howards offense changed things.

Jimmy and the 43

Dennis and the OneBack spread

Butch had a ridiculous eye for talent unheard of. He built a superbowl capable roster in college ...
Click to expand...

The difference is these guys were good coaches. Howard turned college football upside down with the pro offense.

JJ ran wishbone at OSU but had sense to abandon that immediately when got here. Instead he took our talent base and created the defense to destroy the offense of choice at that time--the option. He did not impose something old, he added something new.

Dennis kept his hands off defense but gave offense a new look from Howard's. I never liked the one back but we won 2 NCs. Problem was he ran out of Butch/JJ recruits.

Butch did what he did best and left the rest alone: recruit the future NFL HOF.

All these guys had the brains to not mess with what worked. The all took a beautiful ride and added a thing or two. None tired remake its DNA.

Lu has it right. At the base of it all we did more with less. St Bobby ALWAYS out recruited us. Our coaches out coached him and our players out played his. OU had fantastic players; JJ hated OU and our players just beat their little heads in. That NE team we beat the first time was fantastic but our guys played over their heads. Until Butch put together the team of all time we were the team that played the best not the best team. Heck, when we lost it was when we were the best team and the other team played the best -- but that was always a one game thin, now it has become the rule.

In four years, we played the best for 6 quarters. Four against UF and two against noles last year. The rest of the time it has been the other team playing the best: when they also had good players, we get slaughtered, when they had decent players we get beat, when they just don't have the horses we manage to win. We were the players team; we have become the institution's team.
 
RiDLer80 said:
terdferguson said:
NVA CANE said:
All our great coaches were innovative and had great football minds. They all brought something new to the program or to college football in general. Butch's talent or innovation was his talent evaluation. Guy is the best in the business. Since Coker we've stopped getting these types of coaches and just settled for guys that are "Miami guys" or run a pro style. That is the antithesis of what the program was built upon.

We need forward thinking coaches that know how to run a program. That's what's been missing IMO.
Click to expand...

This is why I like this Bob Stitt fellow. The up tempo spread offense really is taylor made for our recruiting base as well.
Click to expand...

Along those same lines. How do we feel about Butch in today's college landscape? We know his talent evaluation skills are elite, but what bout his offensive and defensive philosophy? Does he adapt favorably to today's uptempo, spread 'em out style?
Click to expand...

That's the only real question I have with Butch. I'd love to see him do everything he's great at (i.e. Evaluating, developing, being a strong leader, hiring a great staff) and adapt his approach to offense and defense a bit. I'd love to see Butch as HC running an offense that spreads things out a little and gets more speed on the field.

Ohio Taint has proven you can run a power offense based out of the spread. You can still be tough and have a great running game while getting more explosive playmakers on the field at the same time. You don't have to line up in the power I with a FB to be a tough running team.
 
Gatorhater said:
tbaycane said:
I mean howards offense changed things.

Jimmy and the 43

Dennis and the OneBack spread

Butch had a ridiculous eye for talent unheard of. He built a superbowl capable roster in college ...
Click to expand...

The difference is these guys were good coaches. Howard turned college football upside down with the pro offense.

JJ ran wishbone at OSU but had sense to abandon that immediately when got here. Instead he took our talent base and created the defense to destroy the offense of choice at that time--the option. He did not impose something old, he added something new.

Dennis kept his hands off defense but gave offense a new look from Howard's. I never liked the one back but we won 2 NCs. Problem was he ran out of Butch/JJ recruits.

Butch did what he did best and left the rest alone: recruit the future NFL HOF.

All these guys had the brains to not mess with what worked. The all took a beautiful ride and added a thing or two. None tired remake its DNA.

Lu has it right. At the base of it all we did more with less. St Bobby ALWAYS out recruited us. Our coaches out coached him and our players out played his. OU had fantastic players; JJ hated OU and our players just beat their little heads in. That NE team we beat the first time was fantastic but our guys played over their heads. Until Butch put together the team of all time we were the team that played the best not the best team. Heck, when we lost it was when we were the best team and the other team played the best -- but that was always a one game thin, now it has become the rule.

In four years, we played the best for 6 quarters. Four against UF and two against noles last year. The rest of the time it has been the other team playing the best: when they also had good players, we get slaughtered, when they had decent players we get beat, when they just don't have the horses we manage to win. We were the players team; we have become the institution's team.
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This is why I laugh when people say anyone can win at Miami. The last three coaching hires prove that wrong but saying that also takes away from how great Howard, Jimmy, Dennis and Butch were. We had an amazing run of coaches and if we ever want to get back to it then we need to find the next great coach and not just settle for some "miami guy" like Mario.
 
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terdferguson said:
NVA CANE said:
All our great coaches were innovative and had great football minds. They all brought something new to the program or to college football in general. Butch's talent or innovation was his talent evaluation. Guy is the best in the business. Since Coker we've stopped getting these types of coaches and just settled for guys that are "Miami guys" or run a pro style. That is the antithesis of what the program was built upon.

We need forward thinking coaches that know how to run a program. That's what's been missing IMO.
Click to expand...

This is why I like this Bob Stitt fellow. The up tempo spread offense really is taylor made for our recruiting base as well.
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I think he would be a great hire. I still have my eyes on Justin Fuente as I think that guy might be the next great coach in college football. This season will be telling. Hopefully the decision makers for the next head coach will be thinking along those lines. I want an innovative guy or someone that adapts to today's college football landscape.
 
Great read. Perfect articulation of what UM is right now.
 
Sorry to muck up your thread Lu but this will be my only post off topic.

For all the ***s *****ing and crying about how all they want to do is talk football, well here it is. A great thread discussing football and not a single one of those ******s can be found. What a shock.
 
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