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NorthEastCane said:
Even more than the offensive line?
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We knew the offensive line was in poor shape, buddy; why should their play be surprising with 3 new starters?
The defense was elite last season with 6/11 returning and more depth but they took multiple steps backwards.
 
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Mnhurricane said:
Don’t listen to the idiots you’re right to crap on the D. Trust your eyes and your eyes say this is going to get exposed by ACC teams. Lucky they dropped a bunch of balls and lucky franks is so bad at QB or the numbers would be worse.
My only point of contention is we did run just as much cover 1 (or close to it) under Diaz at times it was our staple but the 3 down lineman sending safety blitzes is fireable right there. No D flashbacks
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The preparation and tackling is ****tier
 
Liquidstoke said:
We went from a Top 3 Defense in 2018 to a sh*tty low-ranking squad this year....

It's NOT about Blake-- because Manny created that Top 3 team last year-- there's no way in **** he isn't involved in looking over the D this year...

What we are experiencing is the drop-off from the loss of these guys:-- these guys were all wreckers on the D....


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Now we feel the difference without them and a squad of very green Backfield and D-line...

The LB's can't be blamed because they are now trying to protect both the line and also the middle zone-- which puts them into a "wait and see" mode rather than being able to attack the QB and RB.
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right, now tell me how Garvin playing DB and Rousseau playing DT is helpful...
 
Torocane said:
"infatuation with dropping Garvin to defend the flats"

I can't understand why they do this
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Yeah I don’t agree with dropping my best pass rushers in coverage. I’ve seen them spy and drop Greg Rousseau and Garvin in coverage way to much for my liking.
 
dukebeeasy305 said:
Maybe I saw something different but I saw a QB under pressure, taking shots, getting sacked/stripped, and running for his life all game vs CM
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We were hitting him hard the CMU QB fell to his knees several times. I don’t understand what people are watching when they say no pass rush.
 
Mahoney-Pearson said:
We knew the offensive line was in poor shape, buddy; why should their play be surprising with 3 new starters?
The defense was elite last season with 6/11 returning and more depth but they took multiple steps backwards.
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We didn't know until late in the fall camp that two freshman will be starting at both tackles, buddy. We didn't know until the UF game that the consequences would be that disastrous. Nobody on this site thought we would have 10 sacks and a complete inability for Williams to go through his progressions (as slow as that may have been at the time). With the exception of Zuniga, some were citing the lack of returning talent of UFs defensive line. Some were even expecting a blowout.

IMO, it's these overblown expectations that's led to the backlash that many are currently venting.
 
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NorthEastCane said:
That's what we've been saying. Without a Willis-type tackle, we have to send a LB to get inside pressure. We had the same problem last year when Willis was out of the game.
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We get pressure rushing 4 if the 4 are Miller, Chigozie, Hill and Rosseou
 
streetja said:
No but I’m saying that line works.
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Well then that's no different than any other line combination we throw out there. We're guessing to see if we can become more effective. Can they show us something they haven't shown before. And that's not top say they're jags, they're contributors, but they may not have the skill set to get consistent pressure without LB help.

We have a talent gap that changes the whole nature of the line. We've had the talent for about 3-4 years with McIntosh then Willis. But there's no one on the roster that can fill it except Nesta or maybe one of the true freshman. Out of necessity we have to adjust the scheme to accommodate that. We may not like it, but the objective is for the defense as a complete unit to put us in a position to win.
 
NorthEastCane said:
Well then that's no different than any other line combination we throw out there. We're guessing to see if we can become more effective. Can they show us something they haven't shown before. And that's not top say they're jags, they're contributors, but they may not have the skill set to get consistent pressure without LB help.

We have a talent gap that changes the whole nature of the line. We've had the talent for about 3-4 years with McIntosh then Willis. But there's no one on the roster that can fill it except Nesta or maybe one of the true freshman. Out of necessity we have to adjust the scheme to accommodate that. We may not like it, but the objective is for the defense as a complete unit to put us in a position to win.
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I don't think there's a reason to guess if we can become more effective. We've seen that unit as they're always trotted out together as the second unit. They get more pressure on the QB.
 
I wish we could get Hill, Garvin, Rosseau, and Nesta to line up as our DL every play and send them after the QB. The rest would work itself out.
 
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streetja said:
I don't think there's a reason to guess if we can become more effective. We've seen that unit as they're always trotted out together as the second unit. They get more pressure on the QB.
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I've seen Miller lined up with Ford. I've seen Chigozie lined up with Ford. I've seen Chigozie lined up with Miller. I've seen Rosseau line up with the first team.

Rosseau needs to get more burn. The others seem pretty much interchangeable. We're missing an effective 3 technique tackle.
 
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