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I never understand the argument that "these kids sacrifice their bodies for nothing"... last I checked, my non football stud self would have to pay a couple hundred thousand dollars to get a degree from UM. I'll count that as what they're getting for their services.

Sure at a private school like UM, ND, USC, etc.
Public State schools are five times cheaper if you're in-state though.
UM~$40k in tuition per yr
UF~$6k in tuition per yr
These guys were here though, and lets say it was a state school thats still 30 40k they don't have to cough up.

But compared to what the NCAA/AthleticDepts gain from these "student"-athletes, they get nothing. These Scholarships are free. The school doesn't lose money by letting 85 football players attend this school, especially when over half of them likely have the same **** major. Meanwhile college football is a billion dollar industry. Richt is getting payed $4M+ per year. He's making enough to cover the full tuition for all 85 players we are allowed to have on scholarship, and would have $600k to spare. Meanwhile these students are not allowed to make a single dollar off their own name.

If you believe these kids are getting market value, how come when they go on to become 1st round draft picks they sign million dollar deals? Maybe it has something to do with the fact that while they were in college they worked hard enough to be that valuable. So Artie Burns went from being worth 40k to being worth $10M
 
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Why would any recruit choose to play at Miami over another school when clearly we won't go to bat for them and clearly we'll throw them under the bus at the first hint of trouble?

Serious question. Not a good look when the school cares more about appearances in the newspaper than that do about the actual kids they're supposed to be teaching

Candidate for cvnt post of the thread, among many cvnt posts.

You can think that if you want to, but I wonder why every time this university has to make a tough decision regarding football do they always show that they're not willing to do what it takes?

You can call it what you want, but I'm gonna just shoot straight - this disappoints me greatly because I thought the program had turned a corner and was committed to winning, but I see that the university is still not willing to do what it takes to give any coach we have the tools to win big here

No excuses for this defense this year. They had better produce, and if I hear one person say this is a building year defensively and we need t give them more time then we can just remind them that they HAD talent, they simply CHOSE to empty their roster of it. The bar is NOT getting lowered as a result, in fact, im raising mine as far as the defense goes
 
Dam man. Aqm is the true loss man. I never would have imagined this. We have Kool and depth, but Aqm was going to dominate this season. I dont know how in the world people are down on him after playing in a scheme that you would have to run laps if you got pressure. And who was his position coach last year? From FAU? Did anybody expect him to get 10 sacks with that situation? Aqm is better then Vernon imo, and will show it in the NFL. With an attacking system and Kool, he would have been another 1st rounder for Miami next draft no doubt! Would have been another pitch for d line recruits.

As bad as it hurts, I have all the faith in the world in Kool. Aqm was the guy i was most excited to see this year, but Willis was 2nd. Maybe this means more snaps for him. Im a big fan of Demitrius Jackson too. I Think hes still a year away but he can still provide a spark this year.

He was not going first round no matter what he did. Aqm has had a lot of off the field stuff and that would make him a mid to late round pick.
 
Why would any recruit choose to play at Miami over another school when clearly we won't go to bat for them and clearly we'll throw them under the bus at the first hint of trouble?

Serious question. Not a good look when the school cares more about appearances in the newspaper than that do about the actual kids they're supposed to be teaching

Candidate for cvnt post of the thread, among many cvnt posts.

You can think that if you want to, but I wonder why every time this university has to make a tough decision regarding football do they always show that they're not willing to do what it takes?

You can call it what you want, but I'm gonna just shoot straight - this disappoints me greatly because I thought the program had turned a corner and was committed to winning, but I see that the university is still not willing to do what it takes to give any coach we have the tools to win big here

No excuses for this defense this year. They had better produce, and if I hear one person say this is a building year defensively and we need t give them more time then we can just remind them that they HAD talent, they simply CHOSE to empty their roster of it. The bar is NOT getting lowered as a result, in fact, im raising mine as far as the defense goes

Wow.......you sir are special......
 
What part about these two lying to investigators do you not get? The crime was one thing, the coverup is what got them canned
 
Fsu/uf someone pays for the cars. It never gets to this point.

Who gives a F.U.C.K what they do at other schools.

Recruits

Well if we are dependent on recruits that expect to not get punished for excepting illegal benefits while the school is under NCAA probation...
Just go ahead and shut down the program.

Nobody is saying they shouldn't have been punished, what we're saying is that most winning programs would have given them 3-4 game suspensions whereas we went off the deep end
 
Fsu/uf someone pays for the cars. It never gets to this point.

Who gives a F.U.C.K what they do at other schools.

Recruits

Well if we are dependent on recruits that expect to not get punished for excepting illegal benefits while the school is under NCAA probation...
Just go ahead and shut down the program.

If you don't see it. Your blind. This happens probation or not imo. It's how Miami rolls,and it's really the right way. Problem is, no other top team in the nation plays with the same rules My point no other top 25 team does this. It goes away before this point.
 
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Why would any recruit choose to play at Miami over another school when clearly we won't go to bat for them and clearly we'll throw them under the bus at the first hint of trouble?

Serious question. Not a good look when the school cares more about appearances in the newspaper than that do about the actual kids they're supposed to be teaching

Candidate for cvnt post of the thread, among many cvnt posts.

You can think that if you want to, but I wonder why every time this university has to make a tough decision regarding football do they always show that they're not willing to do what it takes?

You can call it what you want, but I'm gonna just shoot straight - this disappoints me greatly because I thought the program had turned a corner and was committed to winning, but I see that the university is still not willing to do what it takes to give any coach we have the tools to win big here

No excuses for this defense this year. They had better produce, and if I hear one person say this is a building year defensively and we need t give them more time then we can just remind them that they HAD talent, they simply CHOSE to empty their roster of it. The bar is NOT getting lowered as a result, in fact, im raising mine as far as the defense goes

Wow.......you sir are special......

Great point. I totally agree
 
So now we are almost guaranteed a playoff spot next year if Brad stays. Front seven next year will be just plain nasty with all the experience these freshmen are going to get.
 
Dam man. Aqm is the true loss man. I never would have imagined this. We have Kool and depth, but Aqm was going to dominate this season. I dont know how in the world people are down on him after playing in a scheme that you would have to run laps if you got pressure. And who was his position coach last year? From FAU? Did anybody expect him to get 10 sacks with that situation? Aqm is better then Vernon imo, and will show it in the NFL. With an attacking system and Kool, he would have been another 1st rounder for Miami next draft no doubt! Would have been another pitch for d line recruits.

As bad as it hurts, I have all the faith in the world in Kool. Aqm was the guy i was most excited to see this year, but Willis was 2nd. Maybe this means more snaps for him. Im a big fan of Demitrius Jackson too. I Think hes still a year away but he can still provide a spark this year.

He was not going first round no matter what he did. Aqm has had a lot of off the field stuff and that would make him a mid to late round pick.

Like Laremy Tunsil?
 
Why would any recruit choose to play at Miami over another school when clearly we won't go to bat for them and clearly we'll throw them under the bus at the first hint of trouble?

Serious question. Not a good look when the school cares more about appearances in the newspaper than that do about the actual kids they're supposed to be teaching

Candidate for cvnt post of the thread, among many cvnt posts.

You can think that if you want to, but I wonder why every time this university has to make a tough decision regarding football do they always show that they're not willing to do what it takes?

You can call it what you want, but I'm gonna just shoot straight - this disappoints me greatly because I thought the program had turned a corner and was committed to winning, but I see that the university is still not willing to do what it takes to give any coach we have the tools to win big here

No excuses for this defense this year. They had better produce, and if I hear one person say this is a building year defensively and we need t give them more time then we can just remind them that they HAD talent, they simply CHOSE to empty their roster of it. The bar is NOT getting lowered as a result, in fact, im raising mine as far as the defense goes

Another post showing you have zero understanding and are a complete ignorant fool.

The school did what they had to do. There was no other choice, you ignorant cretin. Their hands were literally tied. What the fūck are they going to do? Play with players the NCAA deems are ineligible?

Man, you are dense as fūck.
 
Fsu/uf someone pays for the cars. It never gets to this point.

Who gives a F.U.C.K what they do at other schools.

Recruits

Well if we are dependent on recruits that expect to not get punished for excepting illegal benefits while the school is under NCAA probation...
Just go ahead and shut down the program.

Nobody is saying they shouldn't have been punished, what we're saying is that most winning programs would have given them 3-4 game suspensions whereas we went off the deep end

Terrelle Pryor says hi.
 
I got 6 downvotes on saying 10 wins & a costal title is the goal any year. Wow, what happened to this fanbase. Pathetic

It's not completely realistic immediately, but definitely isn't our goal for the years to come.
Coastal title isn't a "goal" any year as you said. Currently Coastal title is the goal, but 2 years from now that will be an expectation, not a goal.

My way of looking at it would involve this outline of expectations:
By the end of Richt's 2nd season, we need to have at least won the Coastal once, beat FSU once, and win 1 bowl game.
By the end of Richt's 3rd season, we need to have Won the ACC and make it to one of the big time bowl's (Orange, Rose, etc)
By the end of Richt's 5th season, we need to have beaten FSU 3 times, and make it to a CFP game.
By the end of Richt's 7th season, we need to have won a National Championship.

I meant it more along the lines of minumum requirement. I never sell this program short.
 
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Let me put it on plain terms.

Everyone wants to see this team get back to winning national championships. That's where we all want to get back to.

The only way that happens is if we land a monster recruiting class - Alabama and OSU had like 17 players each last cycle who were 4/5 stars, just for example. So at a minimum, our class right now is a good start, but we need to add a lot more talent to get back to the canes of old.

The ONLY way we land a monster class like that is if we win 10 games this year. I don't think it's understood how important it is to the future if the program to take a major step forward this year.

We just massively shot ourselves in the foot with this move. We sabatoged our chances of winning 10 games, of landing the recruits that would have come with it.

It also is not a good look to recruits and their families that we throw kids under the bus at the first sign of adversity.

I think this is very damaging to our future
 
Fsu/uf someone pays for the cars. It never gets to this point.

Who gives a F.U.C.K what they do at other schools.

Recruits

Well if we are dependent on recruits that expect to not get punished for excepting illegal benefits while the school is under NCAA probation...
Just go ahead and shut down the program.

Nobody is saying they shouldn't have been punished, what we're saying is that most winning programs would have given them 3-4 game suspensions whereas we went off the deep end

Are those winning programs under NCAA probation?
 
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