Anybody catch the comments about Tagovailoa family?

[Pentagon Cane]

Whaaaahhh Whaaaahhh! Good grief!

Who can blame this kid for making the obvious better decision? Play for Bama and Saban or Clay Helton? Looks like he made the right choice no matter the reason.

I cant stand these posts. We didn't get him or we don't have that so I am going to tell you someone else cheated to get it bc we are better and deserve that type of QB.

This mentality is what has plagued our program the last decade.

I found this article and it definitely draws up some obvious questions. The kid was all Southern Cal, which you would think is logical. Easier flight to mainland. Darnold most likely going to declare after the 2017 season. This was all true until he visited Tuscaloosa. States Tuscaloosa is just like Hawaii. Other than going to church and a smaller community, the difference between Hawaii and Alabama are like North Korea and South Korea. Of course, the entire family moved to Birmingham. I know how much a military move out of Hawaii to the states are so I wonder who dropped the dime for the move. Naturally, they are justifying the move to get his younger brother exposure who happens to be an Alabama quarterback recruit, although a small kid. Want to see their son play college. Reggie Bush anyone? Perhaps Southern Cal couldn't make that kind of deal. Not saying this kid was bought, but if kids are bought then this one smells.

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Nick Saban has won four national championships, four SEC championships and has seen 18 former Alabama players get drafted in the first round in his nine years with the Crimson Tide, but he hasn’t accomplished one thing until now.

Four

It's not whining. It's the practical reality of big time college sports and the governing body looks the other way. It's actually worse with basketball. You think anybody is Birmingham or Tuscaloosa is going to drop a dime on Alabama? SEC is bought and sold because the boosters are rabid with deep pockets. SEC schools occasionally drop a dime on each other but rarely. BTW, Saban is the greatest of all time. No doubt. Name me any other program that attrites coaches like he does and doesn't miss a beat anywhere? Yes, he is the common denominator, but try to do it without the financial resources openly and under the table like Alabama. No way they win 5 titles in 9 years.

 

[ThomasM]

Hawaii is just like Alabama? Ive just about seen it all!

Seriously. How the **** can anyone say that with a straight face?

 

[HurricaneU]

NCAA runs on money like everything and everyone else.

 

[UMFarArcher]

was thinking about this too when they said the whole family moved. I mean here is the deal. Even if his family turned down bags. Bama doesn't have to drop cash make sweet deals. Becuase the NCAA can't tell someone how much rent to charge for their property, or how much someone is willing to pay their employees or how much a deal sells his cars for. The NCAA can pretend that they track this stuff down to that level but they don't.

SO would I be surprised if they got a sweet deal on the place they live at within the state of AL: NO
would I be surprised if mom or dad is getting a hire salary than most ppl in whatever line of work they are doing if it's in the private sector: NO
would I be surprised if they got a really sweet deal on a new ride: No


Bama is deep in the games on all levels. W/ Benefits that go well beyond just bags.

That's pretty much all wrong.

If you're renting a $2K/month house for $150/month, then you're getting an impermissible extra benefit. If they really wanted to crack down on that stuff, they could do it quite easily by seeing what the going rate in the neighborhood for similar housing is. Same thing with cars and anything else.

Alabama pays/enriches the players FAMILIES. Not the players.

It's a system - and it's deep and wide. It's proven effective for scores of years.

New job, "company housing," moving expenses, and company cars - just part of an employment package. These guys are very, very creative.

More than one way to skin a cat.

 

[Canedog]

Some of the radest tubes I ever caught were in Tuscaloosa.

 

[Munderwood]

I found this article and it definitely draws up some obvious questions. The kid was all Southern Cal, which you would think is logical. Easier flight to mainland. Darnold most likely going to declare after the 2017 season. This was all true until he visited Tuscaloosa. States Tuscaloosa is just like Hawaii. Other than going to church and a smaller community, the difference between Hawaii and Alabama are like North Korea and South Korea. Of course, the entire family moved to Birmingham. I know how much a military move out of Hawaii to the states are so I wonder who dropped the dime for the move. Naturally, they are justifying the move to get his younger brother exposure who happens to be an Alabama quarterback recruit, although a small kid. Want to see their son play college. Reggie Bush anyone? Perhaps Southern Cal couldn't make that kind of deal. Not saying this kid was bought, but if kids are bought then this one smells.

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Nick Saban has won four national championships, four SEC championships and has seen 18 former Alabama players get drafted in the first round in his nine years with the Crimson Tide, but he hasn’t accomplished one thing until now.

Four-star quarterback Tua Tagovailoa from Saint Louis School in Honolulu has decided to commit to Alabama over Southern California, Ole Miss and UCLA. Tagovailoa fills the much-needed void Alabama had at quarterback in the Class of 2017 after Jake Fromm decided to flip his commitment from Alabama to Georgia in March.

Tagovailoa, the nation’s No. 2 dual-threat quarterback, and his family, traveled more than 4,000 miles from home a few weeks ago to visit Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss. After the extended stay in Tuscaloosa, Tagovailoa knew Alabama was the school for him, but he and his family held off on committing during the visit so they can have the opportunity to celebrate with people in his community.

Being the first Hawaiian prospect to have the opportunity to play for Alabama means a lot to Tagovailoa.

“We wanted to wait and make it official here and make it special because it’s something that no Hawaiian kid has gone through,” Tagovailoa told SEC Country.

“Nobody at any position and no one in general, as far as I know, has gotten the opportunity to play at Alabama or even just attend the school. It’s such a blessing.”
hroughout the majority of Tagovailoa’s recruitment, most people close to him thought he would end up at Southern California — a school that he has classified in the past as his “dream school.” For over a year, the Trojans led for his services, but the grip they held loosened after the Crimson Tide extended a scholarship offer his way in mid-March.

His father, Galu, and his mother, Diane, have said that Southern California will hold a special place in their hearts, but now they, along with members in the Hawaiian community, have a new team to root for.

“It’s been amazing how the people here have been very supportive. They are so excited,” Galu Tagovailoa said. “They want to watch him play in the SEC, especially at Alabama. I don’t think many people expected someone from the island to have Alabama come out here and recruit him. In Saban’s time at Alabama, he has not gotten a kid from Hawaii, so this is very special for us.”

So how does Alabama end up becoming the school you want to attend after being in love with Southern Cal for over a year? It’s a simple question to answer for the Tagovailoas. Despite how crazy this may sound to some, Tuscaloosa reminds them of Honolulu.

“You can’t really lose yourself if you’re a kid from Hawaii going to Alabama,” Tua said. “Things down here in Hawaii are similar to Alabama. We go to church every Sunday. People are treated like family there just like here. There are many similarities there and you want to be somewhere that feels like home and that’s what Alabama feels like.”

His mother echoed that same comfortability that her son felt when they visited Tuscaloosa. She said “everything from the mom’s point of view was covered.” That included things such as when her son would have time to go to church, to the dorm he would be living in and to the nutritional program Alabama offers.

“I was comfortable because Tua was comfortable. He felt like at home,” Diane Tagovailoa said. “Even speaking to the other athletes that were there, they were very genuine and sincere. I trust the decision he makes. If I felt that it wasn’t the right choice then I would let him know about it. He knows what’s good and not good. He just felt good about it.”

Some fans may wonder if Tua will stick with his commitment being that reality may not have set in yet with his decision to attend a college 4,000 miles away from home.

That subject may have been one the family discussed for the longest amount of time. It’s obviously the biggest move Tua will have experienced when that time comes, but he’s ready for it. He won’t have second thoughts when it comes to the distance he will be from his parents.

“If you’re going to leave the island, it really doesn’t matter how far away the place is,” Tua said. “Hawaii is around five hours away from the mainland. What’s five more hours to any flight? There’s really no major difference to adding five more hours. Being away from my family, I knew this was going to have to happen. Every kid has to do it. You have to learn how to grow up.”

His mother said she’s totally at peace with her son’s decision, too. She understands that the opportunity to play for a program like Alabama is what her and her husband have been helping Tua accomplish his entire football career.

“This is what we’ve trained him for. We feel like he’s equipped spiritually to make the decision that is going to be right for him,” Diane Tagovailoa said. “We feel like we have done a good enough job as parents to trust that he’s ready to go soar like an eagle. We want him in a position to be closer to accomplishing his dreams and this decision is going to bring him closer to that goal.”

There is still the possibility of the family moving to the Southeast, but they have not officially decided if that’s what they are going to do just yet.

The Tagovailoas have another son in high school that also plays quarterback, Taulia. He doesn’t attend Saint Louis with Tua. He attends Kapolei High School where he’s the starter. The decision to move to the South would not just be a decision for Tua’s future. That’s why more family talks need to take place before the family decides to move to the South.

But the decision not to move can be something that Southern California uses in its future recruiting pitches to the quarterback. Tua, the future communications major, notified the schools prior to announcing his commitment of his choice. The Trojans tried to drill it in his head to make sure that this was the decision Tua wanted to make, and it was.

“They were very supportive of my decision,” Tua said of the Southern Cal coaching staff. “They were just telling me to make sure that this was the decision I wanted to make.”

When Tua told his family about his decision to play for Alabama, his father kept on mentioning Southern Cal, UCLA and Ole Miss as other options, but the quarterback wasn’t hearing it. Alabama was the school for him.

“He’s super happy with his decision,” Galu Tagovailoa said. “I could tell that he is set with his choice.”

Tua won’t be an early graduate as of now, but when it comes time to head to his new home of Tuscaloosa, he said he’s most looking forward to meeting up with punter JK Scott, who he said has become his best friend at Alabama.

Tua is excited about the future and acquiring a second family. He got that feeling of happiness and togetherness with the Alabama program. When it comes time to leave his actual family though, Tua will never forget where he came from, even if his mother and father won’t be there every step of the way.

“I’ll probably be an emotional wreck (when he leaves). It’s expected now,” Diane Tagovailoa laughed. “With every offer that came, I always cried. We are just so grateful for being in this position. It’s really just too bad that he has to pick one of these schools. He’s one step closer to his dreams though by going to Alabama.”

My kids go to school with Tagovailoa's little brother and he is a very good player. I have only been able to go to one of the high school games but from what I saw he is a great qb, very mobile and pretty good passer. He also punts the football as well and did quite well with that. With that being said when he first moved to our area he was going to go to Hoover high school and play but the new coach at the school he is at now is friends with Jeremy Pruitt and he ended up there. Of course I have thought about how an entire family can move from Hawaii, find good jobs and house without some sort of assistance but when you talk to any AL fan they always say "AL is the cleanest program around" of course we all know that isnt the case. I did see where the Tagovailoa family may be military (I think) so maybe there is that.

I live in Birmingham and his brother is a very good qb. I am not surprised his family moved to Alabama. It will be interesting to see if the kid goes to Bama or UT.

Nice to see some other UM fans in the BHAM area. Every time my kiddos see his brother at school he always has UA swag on. I would venture to say he will follow in Big Bro's footsteps unless UT can persuade him now that Jeremy Pruitt is coaching them. It will be interesting in his recruitment.

 

[supersaiyanshel]

Are we on his little brother at least?

 

[77cane]

I have never been to Hawaii, however, I have been to Tuscaloosa. If they're the same I wouldn't take a free trip to Hawaii.

 

[CaneToad]

"People are treated like family just like here"

Well I mean..pretty much everyone in Alabama is more or less family in some way, bunch of mother-aunt-sisters and ****

I think you have Alabama confused with kentucky,just saying...lol

 

[QuattroCane]

was thinking about this too when they said the whole family moved. I mean here is the deal. Even if his family turned down bags. Bama doesn't have to drop cash make sweet deals. Becuase the NCAA can't tell someone how much rent to charge for their property, or how much someone is willing to pay their employees or how much a deal sells his cars for. The NCAA can pretend that they track this stuff down to that level but they don't.

SO would I be surprised if they got a sweet deal on the place they live at within the state of AL: NO
would I be surprised if mom or dad is getting a hire salary than most ppl in whatever line of work they are doing if it's in the private sector: NO
would I be surprised if they got a really sweet deal on a new ride: No


Bama is deep in the games on all levels. W/ Benefits that go well beyond just bags.

That's pretty much all wrong.

If you're renting a $2K/month house for $150/month, then you're getting an impermissible extra benefit. If they really wanted to crack down on that stuff, they could do it quite easily by seeing what the going rate in the neighborhood for similar housing is. Same thing with cars and anything else.

Alabama pays/enriches the players FAMILIES. Not the players.

It's a system - and it's deep and wide. It's proven effective for scores of years.

New job, "company housing," moving expenses, and company cars - just part of an employment package. These guys are very, very creative.

More than one way to skin a cat.

Ding, ding, ding. You can't drop a wad a cash in a kids hands these days with social media and all, it'd be all over the place, what you can do is set up cushy jobs for parents, pay mortgages, etc.

 

[The Franchise]

was thinking about this too when they said the whole family moved. I mean here is the deal. Even if his family turned down bags. Bama doesn't have to drop cash make sweet deals. Becuase the NCAA can't tell someone how much rent to charge for their property, or how much someone is willing to pay their employees or how much a deal sells his cars for. The NCAA can pretend that they track this stuff down to that level but they don't.

SO would I be surprised if they got a sweet deal on the place they live at within the state of AL: NO
would I be surprised if mom or dad is getting a hire salary than most ppl in whatever line of work they are doing if it's in the private sector: NO
would I be surprised if they got a really sweet deal on a new ride: No


Bama is deep in the games on all levels. W/ Benefits that go well beyond just bags.

That's pretty much all wrong.

If you're renting a $2K/month house for $150/month, then you're getting an impermissible extra benefit. If they really wanted to crack down on that stuff, they could do it quite easily by seeing what the going rate in the neighborhood for similar housing is. Same thing with cars and anything else.

Alabama pays/enriches the players FAMILIES. Not the players.

It's a system - and it's deep and wide. It's proven effective for scores of years.

New job, "company housing," moving expenses, and company cars - just part of an employment package. These guys are very, very creative.

More than one way to skin a cat.

Still impermissible. They're just not enforcing it.

 

[NJshoreCane]

Slightly off topic here but why would this best QB prospect Dilfer has ever seen want to play in Saban's offense?

What we saw last night was "for emergencies only".

 

[passitback]

NCAA runs on money like everything and everyone else.

Which is why they ought to tread very carefully.


Speaking for myself, I feel the product on display in college (and the NFL) has regressed.


I havent watched any bowl games except ours. I knew who was going to win the championship - just like I know who will win in the NFL.


If you guys are having fun watching the same exact teams win year in and year out, more power to you.

 

[KrazyCane]

I'll give him a year before he's replaced

 

[bigsonnyu]

The quote says it all for me...as far as where this family finds the similarities! The rest is y'alls conjuncture, because the premise always belongs to the author.

If the kid was raised with a small town mindset, where church and family values matter more than anything else. If that's available, in both places according to their lifestyle, what's it to you guys??

When 'we' think Hawaii, we think beach resort and vacation, but when you live there and work a standard job, you might not be able to afford resort style living. It could be the reason, some inner city kids aren't afraid to leave "Miami' to go play in Gainesville, Tally, Bama, etc... Because they aren't living a resort lifestyle to begin with!

When comparing localities, you can't do that from the lens of your vacation budget/fantasy alone; while disqualifying the person that's actually living the life.

Y'all some bitter grown @ss diaper wearing 's sometimes!!

“You can’t really lose yourself if you’re a kid from Hawaii going to Alabama,” Tua said. “Things down here in Hawaii are similar to Alabama. We go to church every Sunday. People are treated like family there just like here. There are many similarities there and you want to be somewhere that feels like home and that’s what Alabama feels like.”

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

Irony is that my old boss use to complain that they had to pay players without Richt knowing.

Frankly, I don't think Richt GAF about $h!t like that.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

I’ve been all over Hawaii. Every island except Nihau which is kind of “forbidden”

Honolulu is big city with big city issues, but other than that, small towns in Hawaii are absolutely nothing like small towns in places like Alabama. Just a completely different vibe sense of community and atmosphere.

 

[Tad Footeball]

I want to see the Tagovailoa Family 2017 tax return along with rent or mortgage payment receipts. What do we have a cot**** IRS for?!

 

[kryptonite]

I found this article and it definitely draws up some obvious questions. The kid was all Southern Cal, which you would think is logical. Easier flight to mainland. Darnold most likely going to declare after the 2017 season. This was all true until he visited Tuscaloosa. States Tuscaloosa is just like Hawaii. Other than going to church and a smaller community, the difference between Hawaii and Alabama are like North Korea and South Korea. Of course, the entire family moved to Birmingham. I know how much a military move out of Hawaii to the states are so I wonder who dropped the dime for the move. Naturally, they are justifying the move to get his younger brother exposure who happens to be an Alabama quarterback recruit, although a small kid. Want to see their son play college. Reggie Bush anyone? Perhaps Southern Cal couldn't make that kind of deal. Not saying this kid was bought, but if kids are bought then this one smells.

_________________________________________________________

Nick Saban has won four national championships, four SEC championships and has seen 18 former Alabama players get drafted in the first round in his nine years with the Crimson Tide, but he hasn’t accomplished one thing until now.

Four-star quarterback Tua Tagovailoa from Saint Louis School in Honolulu has decided to commit to Alabama over Southern California, Ole Miss and UCLA. Tagovailoa fills the much-needed void Alabama had at quarterback in the Class of 2017 after Jake Fromm decided to flip his commitment from Alabama to Georgia in March.

Tagovailoa, the nation’s No. 2 dual-threat quarterback, and his family, traveled more than 4,000 miles from home a few weeks ago to visit Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss. After the extended stay in Tuscaloosa, Tagovailoa knew Alabama was the school for him, but he and his family held off on committing during the visit so they can have the opportunity to celebrate with people in his community.

Being the first Hawaiian prospect to have the opportunity to play for Alabama means a lot to Tagovailoa.

“We wanted to wait and make it official here and make it special because it’s something that no Hawaiian kid has gone through,” Tagovailoa told SEC Country.

“Nobody at any position and no one in general, as far as I know, has gotten the opportunity to play at Alabama or even just attend the school. It’s such a blessing.”
hroughout the majority of Tagovailoa’s recruitment, most people close to him thought he would end up at Southern California — a school that he has classified in the past as his “dream school.” For over a year, the Trojans led for his services, but the grip they held loosened after the Crimson Tide extended a scholarship offer his way in mid-March.

His father, Galu, and his mother, Diane, have said that Southern California will hold a special place in their hearts, but now they, along with members in the Hawaiian community, have a new team to root for.

“It’s been amazing how the people here have been very supportive. They are so excited,” Galu Tagovailoa said. “They want to watch him play in the SEC, especially at Alabama. I don’t think many people expected someone from the island to have Alabama come out here and recruit him. In Saban’s time at Alabama, he has not gotten a kid from Hawaii, so this is very special for us.”

So how does Alabama end up becoming the school you want to attend after being in love with Southern Cal for over a year? It’s a simple question to answer for the Tagovailoas. Despite how crazy this may sound to some, Tuscaloosa reminds them of Honolulu.

“You can’t really lose yourself if you’re a kid from Hawaii going to Alabama,” Tua said. “Things down here in Hawaii are similar to Alabama. We go to church every Sunday. People are treated like family there just like here. There are many similarities there and you want to be somewhere that feels like home and that’s what Alabama feels like.”

His mother echoed that same comfortability that her son felt when they visited Tuscaloosa. She said “everything from the mom’s point of view was covered.” That included things such as when her son would have time to go to church, to the dorm he would be living in and to the nutritional program Alabama offers.

“I was comfortable because Tua was comfortable. He felt like at home,” Diane Tagovailoa said. “Even speaking to the other athletes that were there, they were very genuine and sincere. I trust the decision he makes. If I felt that it wasn’t the right choice then I would let him know about it. He knows what’s good and not good. He just felt good about it.”

Some fans may wonder if Tua will stick with his commitment being that reality may not have set in yet with his decision to attend a college 4,000 miles away from home.

That subject may have been one the family discussed for the longest amount of time. It’s obviously the biggest move Tua will have experienced when that time comes, but he’s ready for it. He won’t have second thoughts when it comes to the distance he will be from his parents.

“If you’re going to leave the island, it really doesn’t matter how far away the place is,” Tua said. “Hawaii is around five hours away from the mainland. What’s five more hours to any flight? There’s really no major difference to adding five more hours. Being away from my family, I knew this was going to have to happen. Every kid has to do it. You have to learn how to grow up.”

His mother said she’s totally at peace with her son’s decision, too. She understands that the opportunity to play for a program like Alabama is what her and her husband have been helping Tua accomplish his entire football career.

“This is what we’ve trained him for. We feel like he’s equipped spiritually to make the decision that is going to be right for him,” Diane Tagovailoa said. “We feel like we have done a good enough job as parents to trust that he’s ready to go soar like an eagle. We want him in a position to be closer to accomplishing his dreams and this decision is going to bring him closer to that goal.”

There is still the possibility of the family moving to the Southeast, but they have not officially decided if that’s what they are going to do just yet.

The Tagovailoas have another son in high school that also plays quarterback, Taulia. He doesn’t attend Saint Louis with Tua. He attends Kapolei High School where he’s the starter. The decision to move to the South would not just be a decision for Tua’s future. That’s why more family talks need to take place before the family decides to move to the South.

But the decision not to move can be something that Southern California uses in its future recruiting pitches to the quarterback. Tua, the future communications major, notified the schools prior to announcing his commitment of his choice. The Trojans tried to drill it in his head to make sure that this was the decision Tua wanted to make, and it was.

“They were very supportive of my decision,” Tua said of the Southern Cal coaching staff. “They were just telling me to make sure that this was the decision I wanted to make.”

When Tua told his family about his decision to play for Alabama, his father kept on mentioning Southern Cal, UCLA and Ole Miss as other options, but the quarterback wasn’t hearing it. Alabama was the school for him.

“He’s super happy with his decision,” Galu Tagovailoa said. “I could tell that he is set with his choice.”

Tua won’t be an early graduate as of now, but when it comes time to head to his new home of Tuscaloosa, he said he’s most looking forward to meeting up with punter JK Scott, who he said has become his best friend at Alabama.

Tua is excited about the future and acquiring a second family. He got that feeling of happiness and togetherness with the Alabama program. When it comes time to leave his actual family though, Tua will never forget where he came from, even if his mother and father won’t be there every step of the way.

“I’ll probably be an emotional wreck (when he leaves). It’s expected now,” Diane Tagovailoa laughed. “With every offer that came, I always cried. We are just so grateful for being in this position. It’s really just too bad that he has to pick one of these schools. He’s one step closer to his dreams though by going to Alabama.”

My kids go to school with Tagovailoa's little brother and he is a very good player. I have only been able to go to one of the high school games but from what I saw he is a great qb, very mobile and pretty good passer. He also punts the football as well and did quite well with that. With that being said when he first moved to our area he was going to go to Hoover high school and play but the new coach at the school he is at now is friends with Jeremy Pruitt and he ended up there. Of course I have thought about how an entire family can move from Hawaii, find good jobs and house without some sort of assistance but when you talk to any AL fan they always say "AL is the cleanest program around" of course we all know that isnt the case. I did see where the Tagovailoa family may be military (I think) so maybe there is that.

Redstone ****nal is 100 miles north of Birmingham. Could a military reassignment happen that quickly? Very doubtful.

Yeah, military isn't moving you to another base just so you can be near your kids. They decide where you go, that's kinda the deal.

 

[Rellyrell]

I’ll make sure to tell my travel agent to stop ripping people off sending them for vacation to Hawaii; she can easily send them to Bama instead. Ole wench!