Any update on the progress of Waynmon steed?

[tamaaiga]

Steed is going the be the best of our LBs.

Agree. The kid reminds me of Sean Spence. Just has a nose for the ball. Right place. Right time. I love Shaq but this kid is better than Shaq, in my opinion, before the knee injury.

EDIT: Better than all three #BermudaTriangleII

 

[calinative umstudent]

Yeah, I hear you. To me it seems that these knee injuries are a lot more frequent now then they were 15-20 years ago. I can only assume it has a lot to do with bigger, faster athletes and maybe the artificial turf fields that are being used now in football.

It definitely has to do with bigger faster athletes. The turf I can’t even keep up with the different kinds.

I’m older, and I only played in HS, but back then it was basically either grass, or synthetic/carpet.

What’s gotten better are the surgeries. When I had my knee I was 18, well over 20 years ago, and I had the same knee “improved” last year. Without going into all the details, I was just having problems but only when I did fast start/stops, like playing racquetball or hoops. They just basically “improved” my original surgery, I guess I had some scar tissue etc, but it feels 100% normal now, where for over 20 years it gave me some trouble when I was active, especially laterally and cutting.

Very refreshing to hear. My main concern is how natural he is feeling about the knee. I have never experienced a knee surgery myself but I am sure the biggest hurdle to recovery is mental. His personal trainer said that he didn't see any hitch in his step or any signs of him compensating for the knee. Also he said that Steed didn't experience any soreness in the knee after workouts these past few weeks. My son tells me he feels good and from all the info I gathered, I think its safe for me to believe that. He told me that the training staff told him that the coaches wanted him down to like 216 lbs. I told him I don't agree with that and that 225 is a good weight for him. I have no idea why they would want him to be that weight but I don't think it will happen. 220 is probably the lightest he will get.

maybe they want him to cut fat now and over the summer they plan on getting him to add good muscle and bulking him up to about 225-230. That would make sense to me.

I'm sure its harder to bulk up while cutting fat. So the staff probably wants him to cut first, then bulk up after. plus if they plan on bulking him up, if he starts at 225 then with 10lbs of muscle, he'll be 235 but have a higher body fat%. However if he cuts now to 215 then adds 10lbs of muscle he'll be his desired playing weight and have a low body fat%. ...basically sounds like they want him to get his diet in check, then build off that. Setting a good foundation and ****...

or maybe im just completely wrong, but it makes sense.

That is a great theory and I totally didn't see it from that point of view. That actually makes a whole lot of sense. I would just be concerned with him going into spring at 215.

Comparing him to the best 43 OLBs in the NFL right now:

Waynmon Steed - 5'11" 215lbs = 30.0 BMI

Sean Lee - 6'2" 229lbs = 29.4 BMI
Anthony Barr - 6'5" 247lbs = 29.3 BMI
Lavonte David - 6'1" 234lbs = 30.9 BMI
Telvin Smith 6'3" 218lbs = 27.2 BMI
Thomas Davis 6'1" 236lbs = 31.1 BMI
Shaq Thompson 6'0" 229lbs = 31.1 BMI

So you can see, Steed even at 215 is actually just as thick/put together as NFL LBs...or more. And Telvin Smith is actually 3 inches taller and basically the same weight. So honestly even if the plan is for him to actually play at 215lbs, that really isn't crazy in todays football....and college is more spread based where you'd prefer LBs to not be as heavy and want them to be as quick/fast as possible. As long as he doesn't get bullied by OL at 215, he can definitely play at that weight.

but I still think if the plan is for him to cut the fat then get back up to 225 in the next year, that would make the most sense.

 

[TheMatador]

Just goes to show how knee injuries are all different. Even when similar ligaments are involved. Some take a few months, some take 18 months to as long as 2 years for full recovery to 100% quickness, speed, and cutting ability.

When I had my knee surgery, I’ll never forget what my surgeon was joking about with me afterwards when we were talking about rehab. Paraphrasing, he said, God doesn’t make mistakes, but if he did, then number one would be the way he designed the knee. There are so many weak points in the healthiest of knees where a sudden turn, stop, twist, or lateral movement can put a load on one or more of several possible weak points, that at that particular nanosecond cannot bear that load, so they tear/snap/break.

I had a simple meniscus tear in my knee getting out of a cab about 8 years ago. Could feel it pop. No pain. Last couple of years,so much **** with this thing. Baker's (popliteal) cyst, fluid behind the knee down into my lower leg. Such a hassle. Often pain, aches in the lower leg from fluid draining down. At my age, there's no good surgery for it. Synvisc One has helped some. Never appreciated how rotten knee problems can be until my problems started about three years ago. Just from a little meniscus tear. I can imagine what it's like with major injuries.

 

[kendallcanes]

Taxi injuries are the worst.

 

[waynejr31]

Taxi injuries are the worst.

Man I swear you guys have no chill, lmao!!! I really enjoy reading this forum, some of the best sarcastic minds in internet history!!!