Any questions for a UGA fan about Richt in general?

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As you can see I registered here 4 years ago and I have no earthly idea why. No clue. So recently I decided to start browsing because of Richt and starting jumping into threads. I like this place, good vibe here. Anyways, not to be an attention ***** here or anything but I'd be happy to answer any questions that I can about Richt and the way things were during his time in Athens.

No, I'm not a staff member nor do I have secret inside info. What I do have is a lifetime of fandom and rabid obsession. Been going to games for about 3 decades now, the pinnacle of which was a stretch of 101 consecutive (home/away/bowls) from '04-'12. I've been in attendance for all but about 10 games during Richt's 15 year career so hopefully I can give a good UGA-perspective on things.

I can't promise any brilliant insight or analysis, but can hopefully answer some questions you guys may have about the new head man. Also if this is not the right board or if this kind of thing is frowned upon please let me know and I'll delete.
 
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Anyone who says "Im not an attention *****..."

mmmm....

I jest..i jest...welcome...Ive read your posts..level.headed dude...offers good stuff...

from your perspective...WHY did Richt gonfrom hands on OC/HC to CEO HC?

Being a brilliant OC got him.the shot, then it seems circumstances (his fault yes/no?) placed him in a different role...

that ultimately ended with his arrival to Miami...

next up is what really happened in those UF losses...
 
I haven't figured this site out quite yet, I want to quote each of your points and answer them, but I can't figure out the "multi-quote" feature. That's my question to you lol.

"WHY did Richt gonfrom hands on OC/HC to CEO HC?"

When he arrived he was young and hungry and wanted to basically make our offense and program just like FSU's. In the beginning things were good. Our offenses weren't juggernauts but with our stellar defense they didn't need to be. So after about 5 years or so 2 things happened. One, the fans thought our offense was getting a bit stale. There were a few times during that stretch where the offense was totally stagnant. Second, I think being THAT involved started to wear on CMR. At this point he realized that as the HC, he should have his hands in every facet of the program equally, not just predominantly on the offense and a little in the other areas. So in November of 06 he turned the reigns over to his protege. There's not really one particular thing you can point to, I think it was mostly just wearing him too thin.

"next up is what really happened in those UF losses.."

Yeesh, good question. This rivalry is very cyclical. 30s and 40s we owned UF. 50s and 60s they had our number. 70s and 80s we owned them. Then the rivalry changed pretty severely in the 90s. They got spurrier and we had ray goff and jim donnan. Yikes! So, when richt came in 01 I think our entire program was still mentally terrified of UF. That attitude goes a long way. It's the difference in playing fast and loose and playing tight as all get out trying not to make a mistake. Despite Richt's UF shortcomings, he still did better than both his predecessors, and towards the end of his career started turning the rivalry back our way again. We won 3 in a row from 11-13 which hadn't been done since the 80s. The record the last 9 years is 4-5, which would have been cause for a parade in the 90s. But ot break it down further:

01: one of UF's best teams in richt's first year, can't fault him here.
02: Truly head scratching. One of our 3 or 4 best teams in school history and it was a comedy of errors. Lost by 7. This is definitely his fault.
03: Another WTF game. We won the east and our only loss this season other than the national champs was a mediocre UF. Lost by 3.
04: won
05: we won the SEC but lost to an average UF. Losing DJ Shockley (SEC POTY) was massive and our backup was a white guy who could barely throw 20 yards. We ran like 10 QB sneaks that game. Awful. Hard to blame him without DJ, but still.
06: we weren't very good and they won the title. Can't really fault him here, but we did hang in and lost by 7
07: won
08: on paper maybe richt's best collection of talent and we got shellacked. They won the NC, so credit where it's due, but this was one of the games that richt became known for where we look like we don't even belong on the field.
09: we lost 5 games, they were awesome. Still, no excuse to lose by like 30.
10: both of us sucked. Lost in OT
11 and 13: finally, at long last, we come in with the much better team and actually win.
12: One of richt's biggest wins. UF was undefeated and ranked #2 and we held on to win due to causing 6 TOs
14: embarrassing. We had a pretty good squad and they had muschamp. We lost by multiple scores and gave up 400+ yards rushing. Their QB threw about 6 passes.
15: maybe the biggest failures of richt's career. We had 2 weeks to prepare (against UF with a new HC and treon harris at qb), so what do we do? Start the 3rd string QB who had never played more than a few mopup duty snaps in his life. He is a dual threat, yet we didn't even run him. We forced him to be a pocket passer which isn't his game. Threw 4 Ints and once again got embarrassed.
 
WG_Dawg, have you seen "Facing the Giants" and where would you rank it all time among sports films?
 
As you can see I registered here 4 years ago and I have no earthly idea why. No clue. So recently I decided to start browsing because of Richt and starting jumping into threads. I like this place, good vibe here. Anyways, not to be an attention ***** here or anything but I'd be happy to answer any questions that I can about Richt and the way things were during his time in Athens.

No, I'm not a staff member nor do I have secret inside info. What I do have is a lifetime of fandom and rabid obsession. Been going to games for about 3 decades now, the pinnacle of which was a stretch of 101 consecutive (home/away/bowls) from '04-'12. I've been in attendance for all but about 10 games during Richt's 15 year career so hopefully I can give a good UGA-perspective on things.

I can't promise any brilliant insight or analysis, but can hopefully answer some questions you guys may have about the new head man. Also if this is not the right board or if this kind of thing is frowned upon please let me know and I'll delete.

How do you feel about the Kirby Smart hire?
 
Did he win tough recruiting battles?

Do you think he was too nice at times? Did this keep him from winning it all?

Will he fire assistants quickly when they fail to deliver?
 
Leading up to the hire, I was completely against it. My thought process was, we're a big enough name school that we shouldn't be hiring anyone that hasn't been a proven successful head coach before. But the hiring window was pretty small...richt was fired early December, there weren't a ton of available coaches, NSD was 2 months away... basically the hot names out there available were Fuente (eeehhhhh) and Tom Herman who I really like overall, but I don't think he's a good fit at UGA and it's widely known he's a TExas guy so when Strong inevitably gets canned in a year or 2 we'd likely be starting over.

So then I warmed up to a bit. There are a ton of parallels with richt honestly. Smart is from Georgia, dad coached HS ball in GA, and he played for us in the 90s. He was an assistant coach here under Richt. Then he was with saban at LSU, the dolphins, and bama. I think we can agree Saban is the unquestioned best coach in football right now, so for him to trust Kirby with his defense for so long, at multiple stops, that's gotta be a good sign. Sure you can debate on how much input he had, but the fact is he knows what a winning program looks like and he's learend defense from the defensive guru. He is an Ace recruiter that knows UGA and knows the state. He's also young and fiery, so all things considered I started to warm up to the thought.

So then he's hired. No turning back now. I'm not saying this through red colored glasses, I'm being as succinct as I can be...Kirby has done literally everything right so far. Yes, it's been 6 months and he hasn't coached a game yet. But thus far he has blown away all UGA fans expectations. IT started by holding together the recruiting class Richt put together. May not seem like much but Eason our crown jewel was very leery and looking at UF. Kirby hired a staff quickly and we held on to everyone that mattered. He also brought in the best OL coach in the game which can't be overlooked. He then set an SEC record for spring game attendance by filling the place up with 93K fans. I know that sounds trivial, but it's unlike anything we'd seen before. And this was after 4 months on the job. Kirby was way out front of this satellite camp deal. When the NCAA said they weren't going to allow them, Kirby said "that's fine but if they change their mind we'll be ready". Lo and behold a few weeks later the NCAA changed their mind and we've been a part of several of these new popup camps (hosted one with UM and one wiht UF in the last few weeks). Recruiting is rolling currently and we look to sign a top 3 class for '17.

I know that all of the above is irrelevant if you don't win games. Period. But as of right NOW, I couldn't be more impressed with what I've seen.
 
Did he win tough recruiting battles?

Do you think he was too nice at times? Did this keep him from winning it all?

Will he fire assistants quickly when they fail to deliver?


Recruiting- eh, kinda depends. Richt typically hauled in a top 10 class **** near every year so obviously he can recruit. It seemed like in the last 5 years we started losing more battles for in state guys to out of state shcools, but I think that has more to do with bama/au/ut being either elite or on the rise than it does as an indictment on richt's abilities. FAct is, if you have a top 10 class you've won quite a few battles. As I've said before, the one recruiting area richt always lacked was the OL. I think we may have signed 5 or less elite 5* OL in 15 years. And many of the 4* guys we got didn't pan out. YOu'd think being such an offensive guy that richt would put a premium on OL but for whatever reason he never got the great ones here. With that said, your QB recruiting is about to explode. I've said it for years and will stand by it, there isn't a college coach in america with a better QB coaching resume than richt.

charlie ward- heisman winner and national champ
chris weinke- heisman winner
david greene- set all time NCAA wins record
DJ Shockley- in only 1 year as a starter won SEC POTY
matt stafford- #1 NFL draft pick
aaron murray- one of 3 (I think?) players in NCAA history to throw for 3,000 yards in 4 seasons. Set many UGA and SEC records

The guy knows QBs. I'm giddy to see what he will do with BK this year.


-Too nice?
I think this is an extremely small factor, hardly even worth mentioning. Richt around players is different than richt at press conferences. He cusses, he gets onto people, he gets ****ed. He just doesn't do it on national TV like muschamp does.

To play off this, I don't think he had a problem being "too nice", I think he had a problem with not getting more involved in the moment sometimes. IN basketball when you're losing all the momentum you call a timeout and regroup. Often times we woudl start letting things slip away and richt would appeaer the same as he did at kickoff and not really seem to care all that much. Almost like he was indifferent. Going along with that, I think he's way too slow to adjust at times. Last year for example, reggie davis was our kick returner (and a JR wide reciever). After reggie fumbled about his 4th kick of the year about midway through the season, he's coming off the field and coaches are patting him on the butt and giving him some "it's ok, don't worry abotu it". Frick that...he should have been chewed out and sat on the bench and not fielded another one. Again, it was like richt didn't care and didn't feel like making a change. BUT, to answer your ulimate quesiton, NO I do not think he is "too nice". I don't buy that.

-Did keep him from winning a title?
Definitely not. There are a handful of reasons we didn't win it all but richt's personality is not one of them.


-Fire assistants?

I hate to disappoint some of you, but this was one of richt's biggest downfalls as a coach. He is insanely loyal to his coaches. A few years back our AD refused to give our asst coaches a raise so Richt paid them all out of his own pocket. That's just hwat kind of guy he is.

In 2005 when vangorder left, instead of scouring the country for the best DC we could find, he simply promoted his buddy willie martinez who was DB coach at the time. It was a failure. Neil Calloway was a bad OL coach but richt had no intentions of firing him, thank God UAB hired him away from us. Brian Schottenheimer is maybe the worst major coordinator we've ever had and if richt hadn't of been fired I'm sure he'd still be our OC in '16. John Jancek was about as awful of a LB coach as you could possibly imagine and it took about 2 years too late for richt to finally let him go.
 
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Oh also forgot to mention, I've actually been to a Miami game before. November of 2008 I was a senior at UGA and didn't have Friday class. UM was in atlanta that Thursday playing tech, so me and some buddies made the trip over to tailgate with some cane fans and give tech fans crap. Wasn't the best outcome, but I had a blast in the varsity parking lot with yall. I remember seeing a bunch of unfamiliar flags then found out it was the weather symbol for hurricane which I thought was pretty cool. There was also a chant that if memory serves started with "There's some canes up in here", then a response but I don't remember what it was.
 
Dawg, thanks for insight. Do you think a refreshed Richt will be a better coach? From what we hear, he cannot be a better man.
 
Dawg, thanks for insight. Do you think a refreshed Richt will be a better coach? From what we hear, he cannot be a better man.

That's something that often gets overlooked in today's cutthroat world of college football but you couldn't be more correct. I love richt to death and there isn't a finer human being coaching out there today. Heck, that's probably one of the reasons he was able to go 10 years without winning an SEC title because personally there's not a single bad word you could say about the guy as a person.

As for your first question, yes I undoubtedly do. Sometimes you just need a change of scenery and I really think this is going to be a positive for both richt/miami and UGA. Going back to his alma mater as opposed to just anywhere is huge as well. Richt will get to run the offense again, be more hands on with the QBs, and learn from his prior mistakes. He's basically got a clean slate with his staff, administration, players, and fanbase. I'm not saying Miami is going to the BCS every year, but I can't envision any conceivable scenario that you wouldn't be better off the next 10 years than you have been the last 10.
 
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-Did keep him from winning a title?
Definitely not. There are a handful of reasons we didn't win it all but richt's personality is not one of them.

Can you summarize these reasons?

Oh and thank you for taking the time to chat us up. Your insight is greatly appreciated.

Also who are some of the ex-Canes players that stand out to you? Do you have one in particular that you really enjoyed watching? Maybe Ed Reed for example?? Haha
 
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What do you take on the over/under @ 8 wins - for how many more wins Richt has over kirby in 3 years?
 
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