Amount of progress needed in year 1

[Brian Piccolo]

I love the incoherence being displayed.

Golden was an incompetent loser who left huge holes on the roster and seriously harmed the recruiting efforts in South Florida.

So what should we expect from year 1 under Richt?

10 wins and the ACC Coastal title of course!

 

[Footballhelmet]

FSU is loaded again this year, ranked 2nd or 5th by all recruiting services. Notre Dame top ten with game in Chicago..UNC top twenty..Va Tech and Pitts are on the rebound with new coaches...I just hope we don't go backwards from last year...

Holy **** you've been Goldenised.

Who judges the quality of this year's team by the most recent recruiting ranking? Freshman rarely start. The 2016 recruiting class will make little impact until at least 2017.

 

[Cash]

FSU is loaded again this year, ranked 2nd or 5th by all recruiting services. Notre Dame top ten with game in Chicago..UNC top twenty..Va Tech and Pitts are on the rebound with new coaches...I just hope we don't go backwards from last year...

FSU was as loaded last year and still weren't great. Truth is Jimbo is not as great a coach as FSU fans would like to believe. We play ND in South Bend not Chicago. UNC lost Williams and is starting a new QB who is ok. Are you riding that UNC fence because of the defense? Lol... VT & Pitt are both as big of question marks as Miami is. I don't see VT doing anything for at least two years until Fuentes can get that roster under control. Pitt is Pitt. The only people loyal to them are those from the surrounding area who grew up Pitt fans. They don't have much to sell.

 

[Waffle Honcho]

FSU is loaded again this year, ranked 2nd or 5th by all recruiting services. Notre Dame top ten with game in Chicago..UNC top twenty..Va Tech and Pitts are on the rebound with new coaches...I just hope we don't go backwards from last year...

Dumb post. Golden almost beat FSU, multiple times, while they had a transcendent QB among the other elite talent they had. Now they have no QB and a less talented team, but it's an automatic loss?

And is Miami not "on the rebound" with our new coach? Why does VT and Pitt get a "boost" for having new coaches? Why don't you apply the same logic to your own team?

These guys don't understand the enormous importance of a QB in the game of football. A great QB like ours can even the field against a team like FSU that has more talent overall than us but no QB.

A great QB can level the field just like a bad one can. A bad one can bring a team otherwise loaded with talent down a few notches very easily.

There's no excuses for Richt with a Heisman caliber veteran QB and tremendous skill talent and a top DL.

This dude's talking about fcking Pitt and VT. You don't fire your HC and pay Richt $4M to lose to **** talent like Pitt and VT.

Strong post. This is why I have cautiously optimistic hopes for this season. We may catch lightning in a bottle and make some waves this year.

 

[TallyCane]

Atleast win the costal

 

[JG13]

I love the incoherence being displayed.

Golden was an incompetent loser who left huge holes on the roster and seriously harmed the recruiting efforts in South Florida.

So what should we expect from year 1 under Richt?

10 wins and the ACC Coastal title of course!

 

[Canes21]

Guys, some of you all really are Goldenized. It's just sad.

Florida A&M - Obvious win
FAU - Obvious win
Appy State - They're a good team, but it'd be a big upset if we lost.
GT - This would be an upset if we lost also. They are bad and Richt knows exactly what he's doing here.
FSU - Our first real test. We've lost in the final minute the last two years to them. They return nearly everyone, but that also means they're Oline that competed to be worse than ours returns too. This really depends on how well their QB play is. If it's good, we might lose another heartbreak. If it's not up to par yet, we take the cake.
UNC - Who knows what to expect out of them this year. If they're as good as last year's team then it'll be tough. This also depends on their QB play also. I'm not sold on them yet.
VT - Yea, short week. Guess what, VT also has a short week for this game too. They don't get an advantage there. They are not a talented team and it'd be a small upset if they won this one. Fuente has his work cut out.
ND - Toughest game of the year. If they play to their expectations then we lose. If Brian Kelly fields another inconsistent team then who knows what happens if we're healthy.
Pitt - Should not lose.
UVA - Again, should not lose.
NCST - Tough place to play, we should still pull away in the second half.
Duke - They're returning back to reality and we shouldn't need a miracle to win.

We don't have a tough schedule. At worst we should be 1-3 against VT, FSU, UNC, and ND with us besting VT. I can definitely see us going 2-2 in that stretch with us beating UNC unless they really do build off last year.

There is no reason at all to think a coastal title is a stretch. We can potentially sweep the coastal this year and by playing NCST and not Clemson we can split the cross games. ND won't count as a conference game. The UNC game may be the Coastal Title game much like FSU and Clemson is the Atlantic Title game. If we go 9-3 and lose to UNC, FSU, and ND then I'll probably be fine with it unless we get boat raced in all 3. If we do lose those 3, UNC might take the Coastal then. UNC does have to face FSU this year and I expect them to lose that so that'll help our chances.


So, still, 9-3, 10-2 doesn't look that crazy because of our schedule.

 

[ben]

We all should hamper our expectations at least until they play the first four games, or five.

You go ahead and hamper your expectations, Najeh. I expect us to beat all the teams we should beat and maybe pull an upset because that's what teams with Heisman level QBs should do.

No need to dump on him

 

[firstandcanes]

ACC title game should be the goal every year, but I'd take 11-1 with our sole loss being to a 12-0 NC team and missing the ACC title game over going 7-5 and winning the Coastal. I don't care if we win the Coastal with 7-8 wins. I want to see improvement, and improvement should mean more wins.

Exactly. I would take 10 plus wins over playing in the ACC championship game with only 7 to 8 wins. Although 10 wins probably puts us in it anyways.

 

[CanesNation26]

9-10 wins. People referencing the last 2 close games with FSU seem to be confusing talent with a rivalry game. They're far more talented, well rounded, and deep. Of course, it's still a rivalry game and it's at home, so we no doubt have a shot but it'll be really tough. They return like 17-18 starters. Unfortunately, I expect the winner of Clemson and FSU to be in the NC game, and I think it'll be FSU this year.

ND will be really tough away, winnable though. I guess we'll see if North Carolina's record last year was an aberration or not and I expect VT to be a lot better... Plus, Thursday night at Blacksburg has never been an easy win for us, even when we were at our best. I expect 9 games but we NEED 10.

 

[NVA CANE]

10 wins and win the coastal. Only three teams we wont be favored against, FSU, ND, UNC. Gotta take at least one of those. All the other games should be a will. You don't pay a coach $4 million to lower expectations.

Also while coaching changes will have an impact on the team I think in this scenario the coaching changes should result in more wins as the whole staff has been upgraded. Better S&C, better HC, better offense, better defense, etc.

 

[Dirty Sprite]

Miami should definitely be able to play for an ACC title this year.... If Brad Kaaya is Ken Dorsey or better, we should be able to win and win a bowl game or even compete in the CFB playoffs.

 

[CanesFan93]

10 wins and win the coastal. Only three teams we wont be favored against, FSU, ND, UNC. Gotta take at least one of those. All the other games should be a will. You don't pay a coach $4 million to lower expectations.

Also while coaching changes will have an impact on the team I think in this scenario the coaching changes should result in more wins as the whole staff has been upgraded. Better S&C, better HC, better offense, better defense, etc.

That's my line of thinking as well BUT who's to say that the players will respond positively? What if takes them a while longer to get the plays down? What if a previous coach(es) motivated...*uncontrollable laugh*.. them more? Its easy to say "We replaced one of the worst coaching staffs in CFB with a more competent staff so we should win". Its not so easy for the players to get acclimated to new schemes and understand their roles in those schemes. Not only that, whose to say that Justin Fuente or Bronco Mendenhall aren't the next big things as coaches? Their teams could pose problems for us.

I see two scenarios:

1. They under-perform for whatever reason and only win 7-8 games.
2. Richt proves his worth and we win 9-10 games and the Coastal.

 

[Dirty Sprite]

I love the incoherence being displayed.

Golden was an incompetent loser who left huge holes on the roster and seriously harmed the recruiting efforts in South Florida.

So what should we expect from year 1 under Richt?

10 wins and the ACC Coastal title of course!

We dont have huge wholes left in the roster??? Golden wasnt incompetent bc he couldnt get talent, hes incompetent bc he managed to underachieve and fail at an unprecedented level given the amount of talent he had to work with.

 

[rustywalkedaway]

I love the incoherence being displayed.

Golden was an incompetent loser who left huge holes on the roster and seriously harmed the recruiting efforts in South Florida.

So what should we expect from year 1 under Richt?

10 wins and the ACC Coastal title of course!

We dont have huge wholes left in the roster??? Golden wasnt incompetent bc he couldnt get talent, hes incompetent bc he managed to underachieve and fail at an unprecedented level given the amount of talent he had to work with.

Actually, to me, among the best evidence of his incompetence is the holes in the roster. There should NEVER be a time our depth chart at WR and CB, in South Freakin Florida, has us working the waiver wire out of necessity/desperation.

 

[Rellyrell]

Let's be perfectly clear here; we did not hire Richt to win 9 games....we hired him to constantly and consistently be the team beat in the ACC Coastal and eventually the ACC and then NCAAF. Golden won 9 games...the combo of Golden and Scott won 8 games last year; so winning 9 games ain't ish. We are by far the most talented team in the Coastal and per our schedule, outside of two teams (FSU and ND) we are the most talented team than any other squad on our schedule.

Golden did much less w more, and now Richt has been given the keys to do more with the most talent this side of the ACC Coastal. 9 reg season wins w a placement in the ACCCG is great, but a post season bowl win to get us to 10 is what we need to start changing the perception of Miami football again.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

We all should hamper our expectations at least until they play the first four games, or five.

You go ahead and hamper your expectations, Najeh. I expect us to beat all the teams we should beat and maybe pull an upset because that's what teams with Heisman level QBs should do.

No need to dump on him

Beat me to it

 

[Pearson704]

Honestly, anything less than 9 wins and a title game appearance will be disappointing really. The schedule this year is an absolute joke and the stretch of VT, FSU, ND, and UNC is what will determine our record, or what should determine it. We should be 8-0 in the rest of the game. I expect to beat VT. I would like to think we go at least 1-2 against the other 3, but I also feel we have a chance to take 2 of those games.

I realize that puts us at 11 wins and that is high for a year 1 projection, but that isn't your normal 11 win season. If we get to 10 wins or more this year it'll be like Florida's year last year. Impressive, but it looks better than it truly is.

I just believe that if we do any worse than 9-3 then it will be a let down unless we just face a lot of misfortune like a ridiculous injury bug or something else out of our control.

I think the team will play with a chip on their shoulder this year and give FSU and ND a run for their money and depending on how well our line improves and how well FSU's improves as well as how good their new QB is, we have a lot of potential to take that game, especially at home.

Agree with your post, but why would you be so cautious to call Miami the favorite against FSU with a new QB at home? I understand the national lack of support, but based on the last 2 games we should be favored with the old coaching staff let alone the new one.

 

[Pearson704]

10 wins and win the coastal. Only three teams we wont be favored against, FSU, ND, UNC. Gotta take at least one of those. All the other games should be a will. You don't pay a coach $4 million to lower expectations.

Also while coaching changes will have an impact on the team I think in this scenario the coaching changes should result in more wins as the whole staff has been upgraded. Better S&C, better HC, better offense, better defense, etc.

That's my line of thinking as well BUT who's to say that the players will respond positively? What if takes them a while longer to get the plays down? What if a previous coach(es) motivated...*uncontrollable laugh*.. them more? Its easy to say "We replaced one of the worst coaching staffs in CFB with a more competent staff so we should win". Its not so easy for the players to get acclimated to new schemes and understand their roles in those schemes. Not only that, whose to say that Justin Fuente or Bronco Mendenhall aren't the next big things as coaches? Their teams could pose problems for us.

I see two scenarios:

1. They under-perform for whatever reason and only win 7-8 games.
2. Richt proves his worth and we win 9-10 games and the Coastal.

why are you projecting inferiority on to the players?

If Tom Herman and Justin Fuente can turn perennial doormats, Houston and Memphis around, then why can't a coach who's far more accomplished do the same for an underachieving powerhouse like Miami?
As far as Richt proving "his worth", he's already a proven commodity as OC and HC, and that's why you pay him 4 mill per year.. If you can't find a legitimate reason for them to "under-perform" you shouldn't offer the premise to temper yours or anyone's expectations, because it
makes you sound weak.

 

[Calinative]

Honestly, anything less than 9 wins and a title game appearance will be disappointing really. The schedule this year is an absolute joke and the stretch of VT, FSU, ND, and UNC is what will determine our record, or what should determine it. We should be 8-0 in the rest of the game. I expect to beat VT. I would like to think we go at least 1-2 against the other 3, but I also feel we have a chance to take 2 of those games.

I realize that puts us at 11 wins and that is high for a year 1 projection, but that isn't your normal 11 win season. If we get to 10 wins or more this year it'll be like Florida's year last year. Impressive, but it looks better than it truly is.

I just believe that if we do any worse than 9-3 then it will be a let down unless we just face a lot of misfortune like a ridiculous injury bug or something else out of our control.

I think the team will play with a chip on their shoulder this year and give FSU and ND a run for their money and depending on how well our line improves and how well FSU's improves as well as how good their new QB is, we have a lot of potential to take that game, especially at home.

I mean right now if we beat FSU or ND it would be an upset win. So if we are being realistic those should be counted as losses. And I guarantee you UNC is going to be tough. And at Vtech on a thursday night with ND the week after is going to be even tougher than UNC. So if we are being very realistic here, 8/9 wins is what we'll get.

I have an honest feeling that we will upset ND, I see us beating FSU over UNC. It'll be an exciting season to see how this all plays out

I mean I have an honest feeling we win 9 games and beat FSU this year, losing to ND, Vtech, and some other random team. And I'd actually be happier with that than winning 10 without beating FSU.