Confidence1000
Confidence1000
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God bless u broPreach cane family! My girl has cheeks f4 days!
God bless u broPreach cane family! My girl has cheeks f4 days!
I like how yu reiterated (FEMALE) we won't confuse yu with nysom!!Preach cane family! My girl has cheeks f4 days!
Ok (deep breath as I prepare for my random rant) it is an abomination it should have never been filmed, it should have stayed and ended with #2 as it was always intended as per Coppola. In fact out of principle I refuse to purchase, cus I would never turned down a free glass of wine I am not a savage you know, but i will never purchase Coppola wine! Never! Why? You may ask. It is because of Coppola wine that the film that shall not be named was made. For years the studio was asking Francis to make 3rd film and for years he said no his vision was to leave the story as is after Godfather 2. Fast forward Francis vineyard is going bankrupt and he comes to the studio and says “I’ll do it for 20 mil” saves his vineyard and ****es out that travesty of a film.Maaaaan, Godfather 3 got fvcked up by some horrible casting. Would have been sooooo much better with Bobby D coming back as Tom instead of George Hamilton and with Winona Ryder instead of Sofia Coppola. They also should have hired a much better actor to play Anthony Corleone. I don't hate Bridget Fonda in this movie, but her character didn't mesh. You should never have major Godfather characters with names like "BJ Harrison" and "Grace Hamilton". Sorry.
And, yes, the script itself could have been tightened. Garcia was great, Mantegna was great, Wallach was great. Coppola should have expanded the mob conflict with Joey Zaza's family and the shady role played by Altobello, and de-emphasized the Vatican stuff to be more "historical background", similar to the way that characters from "the Senate hearings" were not major characters in Godfather 2, they just kept the main "mob" stories humming along.
There is no such thing as a bad flock, only a ****** shepherd.1st, thanks for posting. 2nd, I’m not a very sentimental type, but this legit almost brought tears to my eyes. We’ve been in this dark place for so long, looking for anything, any sign that this darkness would cease. Hearing Zo speak w/ so much professionalism while encompassing enthusiasm is outstanding.
I wanted to touch on something he said that may have been missed; he said when The Pittsburgh Steelers “recruit.” That wasn’t a slippage of the tongue. I’ve never been an insider, nor do I ever want to be classified as one, but I’ve been blessed to have the gift of gab, & w/ that gift I’ve met some amazing ppl in passing just off general conversations. Being w/ an ex whose father is a 4x SB winner u meet ppl, & some of the folks I’ve met have been in the front office of NFL teams. We talked scouting & draft process, I’ve seen big boards & thoughts behind it. Drafting is indeed recruiting. You have interviews, highlight films, game films, workout films, character evals, etc. etc. Once a culture has been established (i.e Bears - Defense, KC - offense, Baltimore - defense, running, etc), u’re draft board is going to be centered around that fit.
With Zo being in that spectrum, plus a former top 3 NFL pick himself, his eyes r valuable. His knowledge of what NFL teams r looking for is priceless. He truly can help young men grasp, not only the playing side, but what it takes to be a NFL player for a long career.
I was just on the phone w/ one of my homegirls (who I reaaaaaaally wish wasn’t married, lol) & her brother played ball at Wyoming b4 getting drafted. I haven’t talked to him in a min, so I checked up on him. He got injured & is on NFL disability compensation. I reached out to him to see what was what. He’s not going to play again, but b/c of how he conducted himself, how he handled things, a personnel opportunity w/ a NFL team just opened up b/c he stayed professional. These r the things Zo can instill in these young men, how to be great while in uniform, but also, what it means to be a true professional.
Man, I take real pride being a Hurricanes fan; I’m happy for myself, but I’m more happy for alums & fans who saw the rise of the program & have endured a desecration to their Alma Mater. I liked how Zo tempered 1st yr expectations, so I’m going to sit back & enjoy w/e I see yr 1, knowing it’s a building block. Also, last thought…if u notice Zo mentioned Bama a few times. Listen, just b/c some of us have mentioned Bama as a standard doesn’t mean it’s dyck riding; it’s a fact. It’s no different than MJ trying to knock off Bird then Zeke or The Red Sox trying to knock off The Yankees. When u’re at the top for a while, u become a standard for that period. We were the standard for our time, & we’ll become The Standard again.
Ok (deep breath as I prepare for my random rant) it is an abomination it should have never been filmed, it should have stayed and ended with #2 as it was always intended as per Coppola. In fact out of principle I refuse to purchase, cus I would never turned down a free glass of wine I am not a savage you know, but i will never purchase Coppola wine! Never! Why? You may ask. It is because of Coppola wine that the film that shall not be named was made. For years the studio was asking Francis to make 3rd film and for years he said no his vision was to leave the story as is after Godfather 2. Fast forward Francis vineyard is going bankrupt and he comes to the studio and says “I’ll do it for 20 mil” saves his vineyard and ****es out that travesty of a film.
Casting was horrendous (Sofia was atrocious), Fonda’s character was pointless, the mob conflict was but a blip, the whole making a statement towards the Vatican was a bit much, and the stupid resolution between Michael and Kate prior to Anthony was plain dumb etc etc etc
And I’m done, I feel better now
IIRC Duval wanted no part of the movie. he knew it was a bombMaaaaan, Godfather 3 got fvcked up by some horrible casting. Would have been sooooo much better with Bobby D coming back as Tom instead of George Hamilton and with Winona Ryder instead of Sofia Coppola. They also should have hired a much better actor to play Anthony Corleone. I don't hate Bridget Fonda in this movie, but her character didn't mesh. You should never have major Godfather characters with names like "BJ Harrison" and "Grace Hamilton". Sorry.
And, yes, the script itself could have been tightened. Garcia was great, Mantegna was great, Wallach was great. Coppola should have expanded the mob conflict with Joey Zaza's family and the shady role played by Altobello, and de-emphasized the Vatican stuff to be more "historical background", similar to the way that characters from "the Senate hearings" were not major characters in Godfather 2, they just kept the main "mob" stories humming along.
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Since we're sharing a lot of info about how this all went down....just how big of a ***** is/was David Epstein really?
U might be closer to losing it than you realize...
IIRC Duval wanted no part of the movie. he knew it was a bomb
I'm not going to go into a super-deep-dive on Epstein, because some of the things I could say "cannot be proven" and are just things that I have heard. So I'll try to stick to the known knowns.
---No one can argue that leaks never occurred. There was VERY specific information that arose in BOT meetings which made it into various media reports. You can do a rough correlation between certain reports, the opinions of certain factions on the BOT, and the motivations/goals of the leaks. You could then reasonably conclude who did what. But it's not "provable", unless the sportswriters reveal their sources, which they will not do.
---You can then compare the HC/AD leaking to decades of prior BOT activity and norms. Simply, you have NEVER seen that level of leaking from the UM BOT ever, it was unprecedented. Why? Athletics is just a fraction of what the BOT oversees. Why does someone put a lifetime appointment to the BOT in jeopardy over spilling the tea on an AD and a HC hire? And this is where I respectfully submit that certain Trustees saw this as a much larger jihad, the "old guard" vs. the "youngsters", the "glacial/conservative pace approach" vs. the "get it done now approach".
---Then you look at "if not Epstein, then who?" Honestly, there aren't that many people on the BOT who are as active, who are as invested, who are as powerful, who are as threatened, and who are as motivated as Epstein was to leak information. Sure, we could all play some kind of "well, there are 100 BOT murder suspects in this room that we need to interrogate" game, but the reality is that there are only a couple of likely suspects. Or one.
---Finally, you look to the sportswriters. In particular, Ferman's case is very instructive because myself and multiple other people called him out by name for being a pawn of certain Trustees, in that they were using him to publicize their side of the narrative. First, Ferman denied that he even knew Epstein. Later, Ferman changed his tune, when he began to realize that Epstein had used intermediaries to do his dirty work. So while you can't directly prove what Epstein did, you get the impression of what he did indirectly when Ferman stops playing along when he realized that he had been used.
To sum up, I believe that Epstein's behavior was reprehensible for two reasons. First, he violated the secrecy/confidentiality of the BOT proceedings. I am the first to call for GREATER transparency in BOT meetings and deliberations, but in a fair and uniform fashion. No Trustee should be allowed to weaponize the confidentiality (or lack thereof). Second, Epstein and his intermediaries disclosed things related to personnel, which is much more complicated and problematic than, say, "UM wants to build an 8-story building but Coral Gables will only approve a 5-story building". There were issues with Mario's ongoing employment, there were issues with the New Mexico AD, you even had motherfvckin' Lane Kiffin publicly submitting his verbal resume because everyone recognized the process as a "****e show". The reality is that there were 2 shows, the very organized show (outside consultant, involvement of Joe Echevarria and Rudy Fernandez) and the ****e show (separate camps, ongoing leaks, petty jealousies).
I wish I could provide times and dates and phone logs for Epstein. I think he used other people as buffers and as usually happens after a war, he smiled and shook hands with everyone afterwards. I can't say if some rogue Trustee pulled this kind of crap back in the 1950s, but I can tell you that it is unprecedented in the 35 years that I've been a UM student and alum. I do hope that Epstein "retires" soon (as a Trustee), but I also hope we reduce the size of the Board and we start becoming more transparent, at least to the students, faculty, and alums.
Maybe Athletics can lead the way, showing the rest of the UM administration that greater outreach and communication and respectful treatment of all of the stakeholders will produce better results across the spectrum. And I don't care if people think I'm overly optimistic and/or idealistic, but we have to start making changes and improvements somewhere sometime.
I'm not going to go into a super-deep-dive on Epstein, because some of the things I could say "cannot be proven" and are just things that I have heard. So I'll try to stick to the known knowns.
---No one can argue that leaks never occurred. There was VERY specific information that arose in BOT meetings which made it into various media reports. You can do a rough correlation between certain reports, the opinions of certain factions on the BOT, and the motivations/goals of the leaks. You could then reasonably conclude who did what. But it's not "provable", unless the sportswriters reveal their sources, which they will not do.
---You can then compare the HC/AD leaking to decades of prior BOT activity and norms. Simply, you have NEVER seen that level of leaking from the UM BOT ever, it was unprecedented. Why? Athletics is just a fraction of what the BOT oversees. Why does someone put a lifetime appointment to the BOT in jeopardy over spilling the tea on an AD and a HC hire? And this is where I respectfully submit that certain Trustees saw this as a much larger jihad, the "old guard" vs. the "youngsters", the "glacial/conservative pace approach" vs. the "get it done now approach".
---Then you look at "if not Epstein, then who?" Honestly, there aren't that many people on the BOT who are as active, who are as invested, who are as powerful, who are as threatened, and who are as motivated as Epstein was to leak information. Sure, we could all play some kind of "well, there are 100 BOT murder suspects in this room that we need to interrogate" game, but the reality is that there are only a couple of likely suspects. Or one.
---Finally, you look to the sportswriters. In particular, Ferman's case is very instructive because myself and multiple other people called him out by name for being a pawn of certain Trustees, in that they were using him to publicize their side of the narrative. First, Ferman denied that he even knew Epstein. Later, Ferman changed his tune, when he began to realize that Epstein had used intermediaries to do his dirty work. So while you can't directly prove what Epstein did, you get the impression of what he did indirectly when Ferman stops playing along when he realized that he had been used.
To sum up, I believe that Epstein's behavior was reprehensible for two reasons. First, he violated the secrecy/confidentiality of the BOT proceedings. I am the first to call for GREATER transparency in BOT meetings and deliberations, but in a fair and uniform fashion. No Trustee should be allowed to weaponize the confidentiality (or lack thereof). Second, Epstein and his intermediaries disclosed things related to personnel, which is much more complicated and problematic than, say, "UM wants to build an 8-story building but Coral Gables will only approve a 5-story building". There were issues with Mario's ongoing employment, there were issues with the New Mexico AD, you even had motherfvckin' Lane Kiffin publicly submitting his verbal resume because everyone recognized the process as a "****e show". The reality is that there were 2 shows, the very organized show (outside consultant, involvement of Joe Echevarria and Rudy Fernandez) and the ****e show (separate camps, ongoing leaks, petty jealousies).
I wish I could provide times and dates and phone logs for Epstein. I think he used other people as buffers and as usually happens after a war, he smiled and shook hands with everyone afterwards. I can't say if some rogue Trustee pulled this kind of crap back in the 1950s, but I can tell you that it is unprecedented in the 35 years that I've been a UM student and alum. I do hope that Epstein "retires" soon (as a Trustee), but I also hope we reduce the size of the Board and we start becoming more transparent, at least to the students, faculty, and alums.
Maybe Athletics can lead the way, showing the rest of the UM administration that greater outreach and communication and respectful treatment of all of the stakeholders will produce better results across the spectrum. And I don't care if people think I'm overly optimistic and/or idealistic, but we have to start making changes and improvements somewhere sometime.
ToC, I'm assuming Diaz' dad played a role here too, no? Either way, whoever it was, they lost. Now the question is are they back on board with the new paradigm? Or is Frenk going to have to deal with a governance body that is dysfunctional?
i agree with this entirely. it was also "old miami" versus "new miami" and everything that dichotomy entials.
Great post, thank youI'm not going to go into a super-deep-dive on Epstein, because some of the things I could say "cannot be proven" and are just things that I have heard. So I'll try to stick to the known knowns.
---No one can argue that leaks never occurred. There was VERY specific information that arose in BOT meetings which made it into various media reports. You can do a rough correlation between certain reports, the opinions of certain factions on the BOT, and the motivations/goals of the leaks. You could then reasonably conclude who did what. But it's not "provable", unless the sportswriters reveal their sources, which they will not do.
---You can then compare the HC/AD leaking to decades of prior BOT activity and norms. Simply, you have NEVER seen that level of leaking from the UM BOT ever, it was unprecedented. Why? Athletics is just a fraction of what the BOT oversees. Why does someone put a lifetime appointment to the BOT in jeopardy over spilling the tea on an AD and a HC hire? And this is where I respectfully submit that certain Trustees saw this as a much larger jihad, the "old guard" vs. the "youngsters", the "glacial/conservative pace approach" vs. the "get it done now approach".
---Then you look at "if not Epstein, then who?" Honestly, there aren't that many people on the BOT who are as active, who are as invested, who are as powerful, who are as threatened, and who are as motivated as Epstein was to leak information. Sure, we could all play some kind of "well, there are 100 BOT murder suspects in this room that we need to interrogate" game, but the reality is that there are only a couple of likely suspects. Or one.
---Finally, you look to the sportswriters. In particular, Ferman's case is very instructive because myself and multiple other people called him out by name for being a pawn of certain Trustees, in that they were using him to publicize their side of the narrative. First, Ferman denied that he even knew Epstein. Later, Ferman changed his tune, when he began to realize that Epstein had used intermediaries to do his dirty work. So while you can't directly prove what Epstein did, you get the impression of what he did indirectly when Ferman stops playing along when he realized that he had been used.
To sum up, I believe that Epstein's behavior was reprehensible for two reasons. First, he violated the secrecy/confidentiality of the BOT proceedings. I am the first to call for GREATER transparency in BOT meetings and deliberations, but in a fair and uniform fashion. No Trustee should be allowed to weaponize the confidentiality (or lack thereof). Second, Epstein and his intermediaries disclosed things related to personnel, which is much more complicated and problematic than, say, "UM wants to build an 8-story building but Coral Gables will only approve a 5-story building". There were issues with Mario's ongoing employment, there were issues with the New Mexico AD, you even had motherfvckin' Lane Kiffin publicly submitting his verbal resume because everyone recognized the process as a "****e show". The reality is that there were 2 shows, the very organized show (outside consultant, involvement of Joe Echevarria and Rudy Fernandez) and the ****e show (separate camps, ongoing leaks, petty jealousies).
I wish I could provide times and dates and phone logs for Epstein. I think he used other people as buffers and as usually happens after a war, he smiled and shook hands with everyone afterwards. I can't say if some rogue Trustee pulled this kind of crap back in the 1950s, but I can tell you that it is unprecedented in the 35 years that I've been a UM student and alum. I do hope that Epstein "retires" soon (as a Trustee), but I also hope we reduce the size of the Board and we start becoming more transparent, at least to the students, faculty, and alums.
Maybe Athletics can lead the way, showing the rest of the UM administration that greater outreach and communication and respectful treatment of all of the stakeholders will produce better results across the spectrum. And I don't care if people think I'm overly optimistic and/or idealistic, but we have to start making changes and improvements somewhere sometime.
Great post, thank you