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hoops156 said:
it wasnt strong. it wasnt as weak as we looked like last year. stop w the BS. he wasnt left a trash can roster where we couldnt be competent on the field. mannys last year even proved that.
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Man they couldn't block, couldn't tackle, and I'm still not sure they could catch my friend. Manny built that bruh.
 
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DTP said:
Compared to who? Middle Tennessee?
Duke? Pitt? We beat both those teams with a "weak af" roster in 2021.
You don't need a Bama roster to beat all these garbage teams that blew us out last year.
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So as a football player, not a scheme player but a football palyer you cant tackle, cover, fight for the win, or even desire to win? Sounds like Manny's players.
 
NorthernVirginiaCane said:
Yeah, no way that roster with the second best talent in the ACC and highly paid coaching staff could ever beat Duke or Middle Tennessee State.
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Good thing Deion didnt come here to coach with all the gutting out he did at Colorado. I would not have been mad at Mario at all if he had done it that way.
 
theibisrules said:
I hear ya, but you couldn't give Manny a 100 ponit lead and have his team beat tOSU in their home.
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My expectations of UM football are so low now that I'd be willing to accept a beating from tOSU over losing to Middle Tennessee State. I've never heard any non UM fan bring up Bama or Clemsons thumping of UM when we are talking football . No one cares because it happens to most teams. And I know someone is going to bring up FIU. Most non UM fans also didn't think FIU beating UM was huge travesty. FIU was coached by HOF worthy coach who had a vendetta, there was funny business with flopping, and UM was still reasonably competitive. But I sure as **** have heard about MTSU many, many times.
 
Wario Cristobum said:
My expectations of UM football are so low now that I'd be willing to accept a beating from tOSU over losing to Middle Tennessee State. I've never heard any non UM fan bring up Bama or Clemsons thumping of UM when we are talking football . No one cares because it happens to most teams. And I know someone is going to bring up FIU. Most non UM fans also didn't think FIU beating UM was huge travesty. FIU was coached by HOF worthy coach who had a vendetta, there was funny business with flopping, and UM was still reasonably competitive. But I sure as **** have heard about MTSU many, many times.
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Manny deserved to be fired for that season. Losing to La Tech, Duke, FIU, and GT (who only won a couple games) was fire worthy. I was most definitely calling for his head after the GT game. He looked good in 2020 because we handled covid better. 2021 Manny actually did a good job as a coach. He was learning on the job but he did and changed for the better. Manny, I believe, will one day be a very good head coach. He just shouldn't have started here.

Mario on the other hand tries to grind a square peg into the round hole. When it doesn't work he just grinds harder. Him changing the type of coordinators to this degree is indicative of Manny. To that, I give him credit. Mario should be fired for putting forth the most disgraceful season of my life-time.

I'm with you. I wish we played a better schedule. If I'm going to get blown out I'd rather it be Bama than MTSU any day.

I looked at Bamas future schedule and they have added a second quality power 5 team to the yearly docket moving forward. Probably a problem for Sabans replacement but it fits better with the "anytime, any place, any where" that we used to boast.
 
Wario Cristobum said:
My expectations of UM football are so low now that I'd be willing to accept a beating from tOSU over losing to Middle Tennessee State. I've never heard any non UM fan bring up Bama or Clemsons thumping of UM when we are talking football . No one cares because it happens to most teams. And I know someone is going to bring up FIU. Most non UM fans also didn't think FIU beating UM was huge travesty. FIU was coached by HOF worthy coach who had a vendetta, there was funny business with flopping, and UM was still reasonably competitive. But I sure as **** have heard about MTSU many, many times.
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I cant take the national media dissing on us when we had Manny...it seems to have subsided with Mario.
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
No, I don’t think that. I just think it’s a more complex issue than just putting a checkmark by a coach you like or don’t like. In the real world, forging ahead to be successful is complex and multifactorial, with many issues impinging not just on hiring decisions, but on all other aspects of running a successful organization.
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The issue for some of us is that it wasn’t a calculus class for previous regimes, it was just win…
 
Angry Ibis said:
The issue for some of us is that it wasn’t a calculus class for previous regimes, it was just win…
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Sure, if you want to be a simpleton. I’m not making excuses for the guy, last year was an abject failure, there’s no two ways around it, but there’s a lot at play in the situation. In the end, he may not end up being the guy, but if you think it’s as simple as plug and play, life doesn’t work that way.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Sure, if you want to be a simpleton. I’m not making excuses for the guy, last year was an abject failure, there’s no two ways around it, but there’s a lot at play in the situation. In the end, he may not end up being the guy, but if you think it’s as simple as plug and play, life doesn’t work that way.
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I’m ok with that, an issue with it is he has been said to be getting the resources needed to be successful… which are those A + B + C = Success
 
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Rellyrell said:
I’ll say it once, & I’ll say it again

It does not take 5 yrs to rebuild chit in CFB. We should see immediate improvements NO LATER than yr 3. Most elite coaches see a massive improvement in yr 2, let alone 3.

Listen, even Golden & Shannon won 9 games by yr 3, & even goofy *** Diaz won 8 games by yr 2. There should be absolutely no excuses for this chit to take 5 yrs to turn around. I can go to any era of football & pull out several coaches who struggled yr 1 & immediately turned it around in yr 2, and this comes after inheriting dog chit programs over a 5 yr stretch!
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But did you analyze the CULTCHERRR at those places bro?! They didn’t have our CULTCHERRRR issues
 
theibisrules said:
So as a football player, not a scheme player but a football palyer you cant tackle, cover, fight for the win, or even desire to win? Sounds like Manny's players.
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Manny went 7-5 with those players in 2021 against a much tougher schedule. Mario did far worse months later. Not really praising Manny, nor did I want him around here long term, but people are exaggerating some of his shortcomings here as a way to excuse Mario’s failures in 2022. While yes, some positions were certainly lacking talent (linebackers especially) and you can fault Manny for that. From a record standpoint, he didn’t do any worse than Al Golden or Randy Shannon, but people here speak as if he eradicated the entire program with his poisonous culture and detrimental turnover prop. A lot of us forget Manny was hired in desperation after Richt abruptly retired due to health issues. My expectations for Manny were low considering the dude had 0 experience being a Head Coach anywhere. In the **** Miami Coach Power Rankings, I’d put him above Golden and probably tied with Randy. He’ll probably get another shot at a G5 program as long as he keeps doing well at PSU.
 
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Bigdaddycane44 said:
Manny went 7-5 with those players in 2021 against a much tougher schedule. Mario did far worse months later. Not really praising Manny, nor did I want him around here long term, but people are exaggerating some of his shortcomings here as a way to excuse Mario’s failures in 2022. While yes, some positions were certainly lacking talent (linebackers especially) and you can fault Manny for that. From a record standpoint, he didn’t do any worse than Al Golden or Randy Shannon, but people here speak as if he eradicated the entire program with his poisonous culture and detrimental turnover prop.
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Still sounds like scheme players. Sounds great against GT and VT, not so good against Michigan State and Clemson where you can actually see the kids quit.
 
theibisrules said:
Still sounds like scheme players. Sounds great against GT and VT, not so good against Michigan State and Clemson where you can actually see the kids quit.
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Kids quit in almost every game in 2022. Some of those were Mario guys. 2023 will be more Mario guys. The “Mario inherited a mess” talking point is going to be hard to argue in 2023. It’s his team now.
 
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