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Al Golden or Manny Diaz

Who has been the worse Miami coach?

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Pen said:
Who’s been worse?

I think the answer is obvious.
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KevinCaneFace said:
Both went 6-6. Manny lost to worst teams but Golden’s teams got blown out.

in the end,I don’t see Manny milking 5 bad seasons without getting fired so I’d rather have him. He may be fired next year
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Manny will last 3 seasons at minimum. He’s definitely not being fired after 2 years. I hate to tell you.

TBH, I expect him to get a year 4. But 3 years is the earliest he might conceivably get fired.
 
Pen said:
Manny will last 3 seasons at minimum. He’s definitely not being fired after 2 years. I hate to tell you.

TBH, I expect him to get a year 4. But 3 years is the earliest he might conceivably get fired.
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Half the BOT was ****ed he was hired without a search. He doesn’t have the benefit of the doubt
 
Pen said:
Manny will last 3 seasons at minimum. He’s definitely not being fired after 2 years. I hate to tell you.

TBH, I expect him to get a year 4. But 3 years is the earliest he might conceivably get fired.
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So we’re going to suffer for 4 years?


#KTDT
 
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Pen said:
Who’s been worse?

I think the answer is obvious.
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With all of Al's flaws, if he just would've gotten rid of Donuts, and hired someone to be the HC of the defense, who was good, tough-nosed and fielded a speed-themed attacking D, he could've made it work here. His stubborness ruined his professional career. It was SOOOOOO obvious, but he either couldn't see it, or Donuts had a file that was going to go to the authorities and newspapers that would've ruined more than Al's career. Nothing else makes any sense. He replaces Donuts with a strong, attacking DC and let the man do his thing, and he could've rebuilt the franchise.

Such a shame...
 
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Pen said:
Who’s been worse?

I think the answer is obvious.
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Cannot tell.

Both went 6-6 in Year 1.

Both saw losses that were narrow in scope.

Golden inherited a team with a lot of talent, but it was lopsided in nature in that the vast majority of that talent were upperclassmen. It's why his blue chip ratio dropped so drastically in Year 2, despite signing 8 four star players. He would have needed an Alabama-type class just to keep numbers. Golden had a senior QB in Jacory Harris.

Manny inherited a younger, less experienced team with the worst offensive line in Miami history. He also was wedded to a traditional Miami offense in Year 1, when his personnel dictated something entirely different.

Golden's best friend was his defensive coordinator, and he stubbornly insisted on maintaining a read and react scheme that yielded historically bad numbers several seasons. We don't know yet if Manny will act in the same fashion as Golden in regards to staff changes.

So the answer is incomplete. We can't begin to say until after next season.
 
filmcane said:
With all of Al's flaws, if he just would've gotten rid of Donuts, and hired someone to be the HC of the defense, who was good, tough-nosed and fielded a speed-themed attacking D, he could've made it work here. His stubborness ruined his professional career. It was SOOOOOO obvious, but he either couldn't see it, or Donuts had a file that was going to go to the authorities and newspapers that would've ruined more than Al's career. Nothing else makes any sense. He replaces Donuts with a strong, attacking DC and let the man do his thing, and he could've rebuilt the franchise.

Such a shame...
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I've said it before...if Golden had hired someone like Manny Diaz as his DC after 2013, he would be head coach of Miami today.
 
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GojiraCane said:
Cannot tell.

Both went 6-6 in Year 1.

Both saw losses that were narrow in scope.

Golden inherited a team with a lot of talent, but it was lopsided in nature in that the vast majority of that talent were upperclassmen. It's why his blue chip ratio dropped so drastically in Year 2, despite signing 8 four star players. He would have needed an Alabama-type class just to keep numbers. Golden had a senior QB in Jacory Harris.

Manny inherited a younger, less experienced team with the worst offensive line in Miami history. He also was wedded to a traditional Miami offense in Year 1, when his personnel dictated something entirely different.

Golden's best friend was his defensive coordinator, and he stubbornly insisted on maintaining a read and react scheme that yielded historically bad numbers several seasons. We don't know yet if Manny will act in the same fashion as Golden in regards to staff changes.

So the answer is incomplete. We can't begin to say until after next season.
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Manny wasn't "wedded" to any offense. He could have easily brought in a spread OC..
 
filmcane said:
With all of Al's flaws, if he just would've gotten rid of Donuts, and hired someone to be the HC of the defense, who was good, tough-nosed and fielded a speed-themed attacking D, he could've made it work here. His stubborness ruined his professional career. It was SOOOOOO obvious, but he either couldn't see it, or Donuts had a file that was going to go to the authorities and newspapers that would've ruined more than Al's career. Nothing else makes any sense. He replaces Donuts with a strong, attacking DC and let the man do his thing, and he could've rebuilt the franchise.

Such a shame...
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Golden ran that ****** defense, not Dorito.

Just like Manny Diaz runs the current ****** defense, not Blake Baker.
 
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