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AJC Pulls the curtain back on Kirby & UGA "Reckless Culture"

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AllAboutTheU said:
But the traffic violations are being focused on because a kid on the team died just months ago lol. How are you ignoring THAT part? But I highly doubt a cop is willing to talk about that even off record. Small town **** it’ll be too obvious
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I didn’t, champ. I actually acknowledged that nor am I dismissing it.

Traffic violations don’t move investigations; DVs, Assault (in any nature), gambling, robberies, etc. that moves the needles. Youngins showing off?? No.

If imma be brutally honest, it’s to be expected which is y their insurance premiums is way higher, off strength, than an adult at the age of 25 yrs. The industry know young ppl can’t be trusted behind the wheel.

Like I said, at that age, it’s just by the grace of God I didn’t flip my car, or hit someone. Bruh, I was smashing the prototype to the SRT that was completely tricked out on one of the busiest Blvd s in L.A. Racing Corvettes, Cameros, Tricked out Civivs, etc, blasting through red lights, doing donuts in the middle of the intersection all while traffic is still moving. The difference between then & now there wasn’t any camera phones or social media. Police was more concerned w/ gang banging, than street races.

So again, I’m not the one to throw stones; and like I said, I know of professional athletes w/ hefty contracts in which I told their reps, I can’t f w/ this b/c that driving record is no bueno, so I had to refer them to a specialty group who take on risk adverse portfolios.

My point is, and let’s just keep it funky, if this same type of journalism came out about our guys, we would have a fit. This is a non-starter. Give us juicy chit about Kirby turning a blind eye to allegations of sexual assault(s), or UGA campus police burying evidence of players pistol whipping a classmate & robbing them, not traffic violations.
 
AllAboutTheU said:
I think this is an obtuse read of this. Culture in sports only extends to what you do when you’re in the facility or doing football related stuff? I’m sure coaches and players, including those who played on our great teams would definitely disagree with that.
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The culture of a sports team does not extend to every single aspect of a person associated with the team's life, especially to the point that an individual's action(s) are not their own but instead are the result of said culture.

Many things do. Not all. Traffic violations, to me, does not.

You are holding institutions and people to different standards and if you agree with the article, are trying to put the onus of individual accountability on an institution. None of yall like hearing this when it comes to the transgressions of players/staff at the University of Miami as some sort larger, macro cultural problem. Extend that to other programs and don't hold people to different standards like this article is doing.
 
Rellyrell said:
My point is, and let’s just keep it funky, if this same type of journalism came out about our guys, we would have a fit. This is a non-starter.
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On the heels of someone on the team driving due to this stuff, I just disagree that it’s a non-starter. Fans are irrational though so I can’t really gauge my opinion on the journalism based on what our fan base would think.
 
BoxingRobes said:
Many things do. Not all.
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Great, so we agree. My question for you is how do you arrive at your determination that this one doesn’t?
BoxingRobes said:
You are holding institutions and people to different standards and if you agree with the article, are trying to put the onus of individual accountability on an institution. None of yall like hearing this when it comes to the transgressions of players/staff at the University of Miami as some sort larger, macro cultural problem. Extend that to other programs and don't hold people to different standards like this article is doing.
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Yea, I think that you’re making some faulty conclusions here. Accountability doesn’t have to be absolute one way or another. Obviously individuals are accountable for their own behavior. And obviously this reckless driving/street racing seems to be an issue that is permeating through the team, with these guys partaking in this together, aware that they can get away with it or not face strong punishment. That also seems to be a program wide issue. When you have repeated incidents that occur on a broader scale, of course people are going to look at the coach, university and any other parties involved to understand why it’s happening at this scale.

I don’t think you can really speak to what I like hearing when it’s about Miami.
 
AllAboutTheU said:
Great, so we agree. My question for you is how do you arrive at your determination that this one doesn’t?

Yea, I think that you’re making some faulty conclusions here. Accountability doesn’t have to be absolute one way or another. Obviously individuals are accountable for their own behavior. And obviously this reckless driving/street racing seems to be an issue that is permeating through the team, with these guys partaking in this together, aware that they can get away with it or not face strong punishment. That also seems to be a program wide issue. When you have repeated incidents that occur on a broader scale, of course people are going to look at the coach, university and any other parties involved to understand why it’s happening at this scale.

I don’t think you can really speak to what I like hearing when it’s about Miami.
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According to this article - only a few years old - the number of high speed traffic violations has been on the rise across the entire state...even notes it may be a problem nationwide.

Not sure why this is a UGA institutional issue.

www.ajc.com

Speeders topping 100 mph on Georgia highways

Tempted by unusually light traffic during the pandemic, scores of Georgia motorists are putting the pedal to the metal – and getting busted
www.ajc.com www.ajc.com
 
BoxingRobes said:
According to this article - only a few years old - the number of high speed traffic violations has been on the rise across the entire state.

Not sure why this is a UGA institutional issue.

www.ajc.com

Speeders topping 100 mph on Georgia highways

Tempted by unusually light traffic during the pandemic, scores of Georgia motorists are putting the pedal to the metal – and getting busted
www.ajc.com www.ajc.com
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I understand that. Student athletes representing the university football team being are public figures unfortunately. I’m sure Kirby’s defense isn’t that speeding is on the rise across the state. And to be honest, the more they get away with something like this that you don’t see as a big deal, the more eyes it’ll draw in the future as well.
 
Looks like there's another installment of this series on UGA football:







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In a single weekend, a 16-year-old University of Georgia football recruit broke curfew, drank with potential teammates in an Athens bar and ended up in a police station, under investigation for sexual assault.

Georgia signed him, anyway. Recruit: Jamal Jarrett


Anyone with a subscription? I tried to "jail break" this article but "incognito window" doesn't work...
 
Not much of a surprise. Kirby is winning big, but story speaks highly of Mark Richt, his character & attempt to control the program.
 
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Miss me with the “we did it too” lines.

We did it. Got caught. And suffered consequences.

I want them to pay like we did. That won’t happen but the fake classy thing ain’t it for me.

F them and every other cfb team skirting rules while we get ****ed down by the NCAA for the slightest of infractions.

My two cents.
 
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You know why this hit piece on Smart came out? Some of the Donors are probably unhappy with the money sloshing around Georgia’s NIL program. If you read between the lines, there’s probably lots of black money in Athens that the Donors are being expected to pony up and they’re not happy about it. Kirby has lost control of his kids, a lot of whom are probably sitting on cash they didn’t deserve. Hit pieces like this don’t just fall off the turnip truck.
 
Warrior808 said:
I love me some Pate State but he is a true politician. His greatest ability is to make every fanbase feel like he is in their corner while still having interesting opinions and not appearing to be a total softie. I would be shocked if goes in hard on Georgia
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Pate isn’t going to burn his sources in Athens, but I expect he might be a little tougher on Kirby and staffers than we might have come to expect.
 
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DamnLiesAndStatistics said:
Saban didn't teach his assistants to add a governor to the Chargers, that's why he's the GOAT. Keep some tricks to yourself
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Notice how pathetic Kirby’s penalties are but how about the police/prosecutors and the charges. None of these reckless drivers were tested to see if they were under the influence of alcohol or Marijuana. Someone loses a life and a player receives a year probation and a $1000 fine. Sure hope the victims family were huge UGA fans to fill that whole in their soul. It’s additionally disrespectful that the media only has this little bit of coverage, but I’m sure most of it was wiped under the rug and these media members don’t want to lose access to the best team in football right now. Access before integrity.
 


This ain’t it. It’s one thing to make this comment when the article is garbage and has no standing, but there are serious charges Kirby did nothing about. I expected better from Pate, bc he’s one of the best. But he’s about to lose all credibility. I really hope he retracts these comments and apologizes to the women, if the allegations are true of course.
 
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