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AJC Pulls the curtain back on Kirby & UGA "Reckless Culture"

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JD4 said:
Lol 300 known traffic offenses is not really significant for 80+ k people on the team over 7 years. Someone correct me but that seems like way less than one offense per year per person

Not discrediting the whole story but that isn’t very shocking to me. Young men speed a lot more than old ones that’s why insurance rates go down as you grow up
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Yeah, they seem to be reaching. 300 known traffic violations since 2016? What traffic violations r these? We know the high speed, and the unfortunate fatality that resulted, but I’m going to assume a lot of these were minor in nature, & that’s a low amount considering 85 players on active roster each season. That’s about 600 players in total in the program during this time frame.

Listen, reign the lil jits in a bit, but being that I’m in the insurance industry & have had several high profiled clients:

Let’s just say there’s several infamous PROFESSIONAL athletes who were referred to me, & I couldn’t touch them as a client b/c their driving records looked like rap sheets.
 
This is the dumbest non-news story in CFB I've read in a while.

Thought Kirby was leaving boxes of classified documents in his home by the title and synopsis. This man just isn't suspending adults getting traffic tickets lmfao.

This is why journalism ******* stinks anymore. I wonder if these ***** would like to be fired or suspended without pay for getting pulled over and cited for speeding or are they just holding young black males to a different standard in south?
 
Rellyrell said:
Yeah, they seem to be reaching. 300 known traffic violations since 2016? What traffic violations r these? We know the high speed, and the unfortunate fatality that resulted, but I’m going to assume a lot of these were minor in nature, & that’s a low amount considering 85 players on active roster each season. That’s about 600 players in total in the program during this time frame.

Listen, reign the lil jits in a bit, but being that I’m in the insurance industry & have had several high profiled clients:

Let’s just say there’s several infamous PROFESSIONAL athletes who were referred to me, & I couldn’t touch them as a client b/c their driving records looked like rap sheets.
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BoxingRobes said:
This is the dumbest non-news story in CFB I've read in a while.

Thought Kirby was leaving boxes of classified documents in his home by the title and synopsis. This man just isn't suspending adults getting traffic tickets lmfao.

This is why journalism ******* stinks anymore. I wonder if these ***** would like to be fired or suspended without pay for getting pulled over and cited for speeding or are they just holding young black males to a different standard in south?
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Is it really a non-story when a kid on the team literally died a few months back because of this? Obviously nothing is coming from any of this, but it’s interesting to see so many people handwaive this given what happened there just months ago.

Also, Kirby’s “punishment” being having the guys who had tickets run stairs in front of boosters feels like some plantation ****.
 
Rellyrell said:
Yeah, they seem to be reaching. 300 known traffic violations since 2016?
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300 known. Plenty of kids being let off the hook with nothing though. It’s a college town where they’re kings. One of my boys has a close friend on the police force down there who caught a high profile player racing and was straight up told that he couldn’t arrest him.

And this doesn’t even include the DV, sexual assault stuff that gets swept under the rug…
 
I wish we were good enough for people to complain about what our kids did in their free time, those were the days.
 
AllAboutTheU said:
Is it really a non-story when a kid on the team literally died a few months back because of this? Obviously nothing is coming from any of this, but it’s interesting to see so many people handwaive this given what happened there just months ago.

Also, Kirby’s “punishment” being having the guys who had tickets run stairs in front of boosters feels like some plantation ****.
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Yeah, have to love the keyboard tough guys who see this simply as a right of passage - boys being boys. Obviously never been injured in an accident or had a relative killed by a drunk or reckless driver.

Can’t imagine being ok with offenders putting on a show running stairs in front of boosters. Kirby might want to keep that detail from recruits & their parents.
 
AllAboutTheU said:
300 known. Plenty of kids being let off the hook with nothing though. It’s a college town where they’re kings. One of my boys has a close friend on the police force down there who caught a high profile player racing and was straight up told that he couldn’t arrest him.

And this doesn’t even include the DV, sexual assault stuff that gets swept under the rug…
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That’s what should be focused on the latter, not traffic violations. If we gonna go there, go THERE.
 
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AllAboutTheU said:
Is it really a non-story when a kid on the team literally died a few months back because of this? Obviously nothing is coming from any of this, but it’s interesting to see so many people handwaive this given what happened there just months ago.

Also, Kirby’s “punishment” being having the guys who had tickets run stairs in front of boosters feels like some plantation ****.
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Its a non-story because its another example of some journalist shifting blame from the individual to some sort of institutional / "cultural" problem with basically no evidence to show/prove its a cultural problem from something that doesn't happen on campus, during team events, etc. Even that traffic accident that took Willock's life that group of players was out at Texas Roadhouse earlier in the night. How this would be an example of some sort of "culture of recklessness" must be beyond my intellectual capacity. I'm not even sure if it'd be considered a disproportional number of people on this team getting traffic citations...I'd hypothesize that it wouldn't be. Is your place of employment or boss or supervisor responsible for YOU or do they create a culture of recklessness if you or other employees get busted for speeding?
 
rccollins said:
The 600 different players in 7 years - math part.
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No it's not. Some of those guys were there for 5, maybe even 6 years.

You take 85 times 7 and then divide by the average number of years guys were there. So you should at least divide by 3 or 4. To get "different players".
 
Rellyrell said:
That’s what should be focused on the latter, not traffic violations. If we gonna go there, go THERE.
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But the traffic violations are being focused on because a kid on the team died just months ago lol. How are you ignoring THAT part? But I highly doubt a cop is willing to talk about that even off record. Small town **** it’ll be too obvious
 
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Warrior808 said:
85 a year x 7 years = 595
He didnt say different players. I took at as meaning total player years over that span. Or about 0.5 traffic violations per player per year if you broke it down.
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Correct; and to be clear, especially since a death was involved in this foolishness, I’m not saying or condoning any of this; but, what I am saying is when ur trying to expand on the “reckless” nature of a program & throw out this number of violations, compared to the amount of players Kirby have coached during this time frame, that part is not as egregious as the AJC is making it appear.

If we’re letting off players for DVs, sexual assaults, gambling on games, etc. NOW that’s going to grab major attention and headlines. Speeding, & driving reckless? B/c this is so frequent in every day life w/ young ppl (LAPD just assigned a task force to break up street take overs through out the city), this is not going to be earth shattering to UGA’s program. It may be talked about once or twice & then swept under the rug.
 
BoxingRobes said:
Its a non-story because its another example of some journalist shifting blame from the individual to some sort of institutional / "cultural" problem with basically no evidence to show/prove its a cultural problem from something that doesn't happen on campus, during team events, etc. Even that traffic accident that took Willock's life that group of players was out at Texas Roadhouse earlier in the night. How this would be an example of some sort of "culture of recklessness" must be beyond my intellectual capacity. I'm not even sure if it'd be considered a disproportional number of people on this team getting traffic citations...I'd hypothesize that it wouldn't be. Is your place of employment or boss or supervisor responsible for YOU or do they create a culture of recklessness if you or other employees get busted for speeding?
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I think this is an obtuse read of this. Culture in sports only extends to what you do when you’re in the facility or doing football related stuff? I’m sure coaches and players, including those who played on our great teams would definitely disagree with that.
 
TheEye said:
Stay tuned for Sports Illustrated cover story “Why University of Georgia should drop its Football Program”
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“Why The University of Georgia is Becoming the 1980’s/90’s Miami Hurricanes”
 
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