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OrangeBowlMagic said:


Not a ton we didn’t already know here, but Jesus Christ that was a terrible football game.

Things that stand out:

1. Obviously the red zone determined the entire game. 9 red zone plays….ZERO SUCCESS RATE

2. We got beat by a team who didn’t even ATTEMPT a pass 20+ yards downfield

3. We completed 2 passes against man coverage all night

4. They had 0 sacks and TVD was only pressured on 20.5% of his attempts, yet we still only completed 56.5% of our passes (adjusted) for only 5.3 yards per attempt. Absolutely awful.

5. Only 10.3% explosive play rate

6. This is good….0 three and outs. And averaging 8.3 plays per drive is very good, although if you’re going to be methodical, you have to finish drives.

7. Yards before contact per rush....3.0!! That is excellent. REALLY encouraging for the OL going forward. And we only had 16.7% of our runs stuffed, another great number.

8. Defense was generally very good. But A&M went completely in a shell offensively. Honestly, they didn't even try most of the night. It was evident that the gameplan was to make absolutely no mistakes and make Miami's offense beat them. They ran the ball 75% of the time on first and 10. And we think Gattis is conservative. That's an abortion. Jimbo is the worst. And they faced 3rd and 7+ on 7 different plays. They averaged 1.1 yards per play on those and converted one. To lose to a team this inept and conservative on offense in 2022 really makes me ill.
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We will see what this defense is made of in 3 weeeks vs unc at the rock.
I’m not crowning any position group yet. Just like we shouldn’t have applauded the offense against Bethune we shouldn’t be saying our defense was good because we stopped TAMu. They haven’t been able to do anything in their first 3 games.
Take the short field away and that was a one point loss.
At this time I don’t see a UM defense that can hold a legit top 10 team to 17 points. TAMU sucks and we couldn’t convert it’s just that simple. We score one more td and at least one field goal and that team would’ve folded.

If we don’t start scoring points we might have a very long season.
 
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TheProf said:
Our passing attack was so poor that we had a good running game, a great game defensively, and we still lost the game. Yes, special teams played a big role in the outcome, but if our running game got an A, the passing game gets a D+ at best, and that is only because the OL did so well in protection.
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lost a game that we fell down by 2 scores
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Ok, so there’s an agenda here. We know this. And the dude is probably about 3 fries short of a happy meal. But he knows the game. Again, there’s a lot of bias here. But try to sift through the sarcasm and bias and just watch his breakdowns of the plays. This is pretty damning. Only thing I will say aside from what he did is he places all the blame on scheme, which deserves a ton. But he just glosses over the fact that kids aren’t open, because he attributes it solely to scheme. Although, Gattis is the WR coach as well. But the plan was awful, the execution was awful, and A&M just bodied our kids physically while playing stronger. Enjoy….

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He probably glosses over it because the route concepts are awful. As an example go watch how S Miss beat us in man early in the game. Stacking wr’s. Or watch other teams motion that outside guy then run a slant off the motion action. You’ve already gotten leverage. As I said earlier in the thread in todays football running man is almost a layup for Oc’s. With all the stacking , bunch, motions , natural rubs makes it almost impossible to stop. Then later selling a route as a rub then the guy rubbing goes back side for a wheel route. The cb has already switched trying to help the cb being picked. That’s why I don’t want to hear about our wr’s when scheme can do a lot to cover that up. You better have great cb’s , great coaching and great commutation to run a bunch of man in todays football.

I’m no expert but I know enough. Two completions against man tells you everything about the creativity of his offense. Period.
 
8.6 plays per drive is efficient AF.

No 3 & outs is amazing.

If @Lance Roffers was still here, he would tell you about "hidden yards." Our starting field position was our own 20, theirs was their own 29. Starting field position is one of Bill Connelly's 5 Factors. It has a direct correlation with win percentage, although I don't know how to calculate it.

I find that starting field position strange. I didn't notice it while watching. And, when you consider the other stats, like our long, efficient drives and aTm 25.2 yard average drive distance, it doesn't make much sense.

I will do a rewatch and keep an eye out for it.
 
Cribby said:
He probably glosses over it because the route concepts are awful. As an example go watch how S Miss beat us in man early in the game. Stacking wr’s. Or watch other teams motion that outside guy then run a slant off the motion action. You’ve already gotten leverage. As I said earlier in the thread in todays football running man is almost a layup for Oc’s. With all the stacking , bunch, motions , natural rubs makes it almost impossible to stop. Then later selling a route as a rub then the guy rubbing goes back side for a wheel route. The cb has already switched trying to help the cb being picked. That’s why I don’t want to hear about our wr’s when scheme can do a lot to cover that up. You better have great cb’s , great coaching and great commutation to run a bunch of man in todays football.

I’m no expert but I know enough. Two completions against man tells you everything about the creativity of his offense. Period.
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Can't disagree with any of this at all. And he kinda does call out exactly that in the video, he says the scheme is trash.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Can't disagree with any of this at all. And he kinda does call out exactly that in the video, he says the scheme is trash.
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Say what you will about me but I’m not a mope or Mr negative. I say what I see. If I see bs I’ll call it out. Theres people out there that know this but I doubt they speak on it. They don’t want to burn bridges and I get it. Me on the other hand makes nothing off my opinion or takes.
 
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Cribby said:
He probably glosses over it because the route concepts are awful. As an example go watch how S Miss beat us in man early in the game. Stacking wr’s. Or watch other teams motion that outside guy then run a slant off the motion action. You’ve already gotten leverage. As I said earlier in the thread in todays football running man is almost a layup for Oc’s. With all the stacking , bunch, motions , natural rubs makes it almost impossible to stop. Then later selling a route as a rub then the guy rubbing goes back side for a wheel route. The cb has already switched trying to help the cb being picked. That’s why I don’t want to hear about our wr’s when scheme can do a lot to cover that up. You better have great cb’s , great coaching and great commutation to run a bunch of man in todays football.

I’m no expert but I know enough. Two completions against man tells you everything about the creativity of his offense. Period.
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Sounds like we're screwed again. There's always something schematically damning about this program.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Ok, so there’s an agenda here. We know this. And the dude is probably about 3 fries short of a happy meal. But he knows the game. Again, there’s a lot of bias here. But try to sift through the sarcasm and bias and just watch his breakdowns of the plays. This is pretty damning. Only thing I will say aside from what he did is he places all the blame on scheme, which deserves a ton. But he just glosses over the fact that kids aren’t open, because he attributes it solely to scheme. Although, Gattis is the WR coach as well. But the plan was awful, the execution was awful, and A&M just bodied our kids physically while playing stronger. Enjoy….

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What in god's name is TVD doing on the final third down of this piece at the 13:30 mark? Why did he so many times decide on a quick 2 yard route when A. the line play was perfect and B. it would be late downs and long yardage for the first.

I'm truly at a loss with with who to blame more. TVD, the receivers, and Gattis all seem like their own worst enemies.
 
scrantoncane said:
8.6 plays per drive is efficient AF.

No 3 & outs is amazing.

If @Lance Roffers was still here, he would tell you about "hidden yards." Our starting field position was our own 20, theirs was their own 29. Starting field position is one of Bill Connelly's 5 Factors. It has a direct correlation with win percentage, although I don't know how to calculate it.

I find that starting field position strange. I didn't notice it while watching. And, when you consider the other stats, like our long, efficient drives and aTm 25.2 yard average drive distance, it doesn't make much sense.

I will do a rewatch and keep an eye out for it.
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Their punter put in quite easily the best punting performance I've ever seen in college or pro is what happened.
 
Cribby said:
He probably glosses over it because the route concepts are awful. As an example go watch how S Miss beat us in man early in the game. Stacking wr’s. Or watch other teams motion that outside guy then run a slant off the motion action. You’ve already gotten leverage. As I said earlier in the thread in todays football running man is almost a layup for Oc’s. With all the stacking , bunch, motions , natural rubs makes it almost impossible to stop. Then later selling a route as a rub then the guy rubbing goes back side for a wheel route. The cb has already switched trying to help the cb being picked. That’s why I don’t want to hear about our wr’s when scheme can do a lot to cover that up. You better have great cb’s , great coaching and great commutation to run a bunch of man in todays football.

I’m no expert but I know enough. Two completions against man tells you everything about the creativity of his offense. Period.
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Agree with a lot of what you are saying ITT. Here is what gets me:

1. Gattis is supposedly "fit scheme to players guy." At Michigan there is a good amount of tape of him stacking WR's and even lining up guys at the numbers. Also a lot of them same of what we have seen at Miami. Odd thing is, he was blamed for trying to spread guys out with poor WRs there, and praised for going power O last year. Either he makes adjustments or it was all a bunch of hype only.

2. Given 1, if the WR's are good enough, why wouldn't he implement stuff he did in 2019 and 2020? No argument from me that they should have addressed the WR position much quicker and more aggressively from a personnel standpoint. But it's not like he hasn't shown that schematically in the past. Not absolving Gattis, but guys do need to step up and better players brought in thru recruiting/portal.

Bottom line is 9 points is not good enough, and Gattis has a lot to prove.
 
Return of the U said:
Agree with a lot of what you are saying ITT. Here is what gets me:

1. Gattis is supposedly "fit scheme to players guy." At Michigan there is a good amount of tape of him stacking WR's and even lining up guys at the numbers. Also a lot of them same of what we have seen at Miami. Odd thing is, he was blamed for trying to spread guys out with poor WRs there, and praised for going power O last year. Either he makes adjustments or it was all a bunch of hype only.

2. Given 1, if the WR's are good enough, why wouldn't he implement stuff he did in 2019 and 2020? No argument from me that they should have addressed the WR position much quicker and more aggressively from a personnel standpoint. But it's not like he hasn't shown that schematically in the past. Not absolving Gattis, but guys do need to step up and better players brought in thru recruiting/portal.

Bottom line is 9 points is not good enough, and Gattis has a lot to prove.
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He called the plays but the formations, concepts look like the co oc. The guy all the Michigan fans said made the instant impact when he hit campus. Kinda like Brady at Lsu. The OC there was meh before Brady , then the offense went bonkers when JB arrived. Even though he wasn’t the play caller majority of the game.
 
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streetja said:
What in god's name is TVD doing on the final third down of this piece at the 13:30 mark? Why did he so many times decide on a quick 2 yard route when A. the line play was perfect and B. it would be late downs and long yardage for the first.

I'm truly at a loss with with who to blame more. TVD, the receivers, and Gattis all seem like their own worst enemies.
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Ponce cant get any love? TVD doesnt seem to be able to identify zone defense and throws to man beaters when his zone beater is sitting WIDE open in same play.. Does he pre determine where he is going? I doubt getting Brashard possibly McGahee'd is the way they draw it up
 
For anyone who remembers,of the 9 plays in the red zone did we even throw 1 in the endzone,I only remember runs.
 
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