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Earnest T. Bass said:
It is my belief that if Coach Richt wanted Kool to stay the administration would have stepped up and stroked a check to insure he didn't leave. Something was not right with Kool, especially when one considers his lack of production on the recruiting front.
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That is not my belief.
 
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Pickle Richt said:
We didn't offer him enough money to land him. Use whatever description you'd like.
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When you aren't working with an unlimited budget, you can't afford to get into bidding wars. Miami won't win those wars on a regular basis, unless Richt is willing to have a very unbalanced staff. You can't win when you have 2-3 elite guys, and 6-7 glorified babysitters. You have to know how to shop, and I believe that Richt can do just that.
 
Canedude08 said:
When you aren't working with an unlimited budget, you can't afford to get into bidding wars. Miami won't win those wars on a regular basis, unless Richt is willing to have a very unbalanced staff. You can't win when you have 2-3 elite guys, and 6-7 glorified babysitters. You have to know how to shop, and I believe that Richt can do just that.
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Yes, that's my point. We don't have an unlimited athletic budget because nothing's changed. People think that our administration has drastically changed and is intent on spending our entire endowment on football, and that's not the case.
 
Canedude08 said:
It's amazing how ignorant a lot of our fans are in regards to WHAT the University President and those people actually DO in regards to athletics. Frenk isn't doing anything, just like Shalala. No competent University President is doing anything significant with the athletic department on a day to day basis.

The only difference between 2008 and now is that Blake James, after prodding by Al Golden finally brought the Miami fundraising machine into the 21st century. The school, will not, and should not subsidize the athletic department, what they earn is what they should spend. When you earn more via sponsorships and fundraising, you tend to be able to spend a whole lot more. The Adidas deal was HUGE, merely because it ensured that the department would have a lot more cash coming in. When you combine that the school getting a proven winner as HC, it's not shocking that the department would be more profitable, leading to more money being available for assistants. Even with the improved salaries, Miami still works within a budget, due to the fact that it's not a bottomless pit of money. That's why guys like Jon Richt are on staff, it's tough to have a whole staff of killers, when you have to skimp in some areas.

Jim Larranaga has had a similar effect. Miami basketball sells out on a regular basis, that means more money for facility upgrades, that means more money to pay assistants and support staff. Miami basketball improving helps the football program, because that means the basketball program is a self-sufficient unit, opening up funds for football.
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Yea, people conflate terms like “administration” with the athletic department, the President of the university, and the board of trustees, all of which are separate functioning units within the university.

The lines of power and hierarchy can sometimes be blurred by actual and perceived power, but goes something like this:

BOT hires/fires President

President hires/fires AD (President might normally consult with specific BOTs)

AD hires/fires head football coach (sometimes in consultation with President and/or specific BOTs)

AD hires/fires athletic staff supporting staff, who hire on down the line.

So when people talk about the “administration” I’m not even sure what they mean.
 
Then there’s operating budget and where it comes from, and its limitations.

Things like earmarks and revenue sources.

That’s for another post.
 
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Pickle Richt said:
We didn't offer him enough money to land him. Use whatever description you'd like.
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Aranda currently is the highest paid assistant coach at 1.8 million. Meanwhile they took an interim coach and hired him for what’s the 29th highest salary. Miami wasn’t cheap. LSU just doesn’t know how to spend money
 
Pickle Richt said:
He's going to have to recruit wherever he goes, but the thing about Kool is that he has consistently been able to do more with less. The ultimate judgment is going to be the results on the field, not who's the best recruiter or the nicest guy. Hopefully it works out for the better, but that's not the point. The fact is we lost an elite coach to a lateral move, again.
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Despite what you and I think, coaches don't think Miami to bama is a lateral move.
 
Pickle Richt said:
Yes, that's my point. We don't have an unlimited athletic budget because nothing's changed. People think that our administration has drastically changed and is intent on spending our entire endowment on football, and that's not the case.
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You have to admit the purse strings have been loosened. We will never have a bama budget, but we're willing to spend a lot more than 5 years ago and that will make us a player for higher quality, more proven coaches..
 
KevinCaneFace said:
Aranda currently is the highest paid assistant coach at 1.8 million. Meanwhile they took an interim coach and hired him for what’s the 29th highest salary. Miami wasn’t cheap. LSU just doesn’t know how to spend money
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They signed him to an even bigger contract a few months ago. Venables was making around the same, so LSU wasn't going out on a huge limb. That's just what an elite DC costs now.
 
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kryptonite said:
You have to admit the purse strings have been loosened. We will never have a bama budget, but we're willing to spend a lot more than 5 years ago and that will make us a player for higher quality, more proven coaches..
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We have more money now, that's why. With the amount of money we've brought in from Adidas, HRS, and ACC tv deals, I'm not convinced that we're spending all of that on the football program. They couldn't even help pay for the IPF.
 
Pickle Richt said:
We have more money now, that's why. With the amount of money we've brought in from Adidas, HRS, and ACC tv deals, I'm not convinced that we're spending all of that on the football program. They couldn't even help pay for the IPF.
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With that money coming in, they still have to fundraise for a reason. There's only so far that money can go. You can't just throw every incoming dime at the football program. You still have to pay for the other sports, especially the non-revenue ones. You think that tennis and track and those sports don't see a dime? Of course not, they suck up a ton of funding, because of Title IX concerns.
 
Canedude08 said:
With that money coming in, they still have to fundraise for a reason. There's only so far that money can go. You can't just throw every incoming dime at the football program. You still have to pay for the other sports, especially the non-revenue ones. You think that tennis and track and those sports don't see a dime? Of course not, they suck up a ton of funding, because of Title IX concerns.
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The non-revenue sports were fine before those deals weren't they? The money doesn't need to be evenly distributed, the sports just need to exist.
 
kryptonite said:
You have to admit the purse strings have been loosened. We will never have a bama budget, but we're willing to spend a lot more than 5 years ago and that will make us a player for higher quality, more proven coaches..
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Not sure where you’re getting the idea about purse strings being loosened, there’s just more revenue. It’s been posted in this thread. Adidas contract. Increasing contributions from donors. Licensing revenues. Ticket sales, etc. There are different buckets at the university. The athletic department has its own bucket. It doesn’t draw money from the university. It generates its own revenue. There are no purse strings to loosen.
 
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Pickle Richt said:
The non-revenue sports were fine before those deals weren't they? The money doesn't need to be evenly distributed, the sports just need to exist.
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That's not how Title IX works. You have to provide EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES to those sports. You don't have to treat them like you do football, but you do have to put some money into them. Those coaches want to have a chance to win too, and you want to make sure they have the tools they need. That costs money, especially for sports in which you have to recruit in some cases internationally like tennis.
 
Canedude08 said:
That's not how Title IX works. You have to provide EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES to those sports. You don't have to treat them like you do football, but you do have to put some money into them. Those coaches want to have a chance to win too, and you want to make sure they have the tools they need. That costs money, especially for sports in which you have to recruit in some cases internationally like tennis.
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Ok, "equal opportunities" is really vague. It's not even to the point that massive amounts of dollars have been brought in by the football program is more than the, let's be generous and say $4 million more we're spending on football coaches. You're free to spend that money to fly the coaches first class to New Zealand to look for a tennis player, but that doesn't mean it's the best use of the money.
 
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Pickle Richt said:
Ok, "equal opportunities" is really vague. It's not even to the point that massive amounts of dollars have been brought in by the football program is more than the, let's be generous and say $4 million more we're spending on football coaches. You're free to spend that money to fly the coaches first class to New Zealand to look for a tennis player, but that doesn't mean it's the best use of the money.
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Once again, this is about just paying for the things a program needs in order to compete. There's an arms race all across college athletics, whether it is football, or women's tennis. Miami has to at least appear to be trying, even if it's a sport in which no one gives a crap. Coach Deem needs to have a recruiting budget worth a crap, same with Coach Tews, and Coach Meier. You can't throw them peanuts, and expect people to be cool with that. Miami sponsors fewer sports than **** near every other major football school for a reason, fewer mouths to feed. That said, they still have to feed the ones they do have.
 
Canedude08 said:
Once again, this is about just paying for the things a program needs in order to compete. There's an arms race all across college athletics, whether it is football, or women's tennis. Miami has to at least appear to be trying, even if it's a sport in which no one gives a crap. Coach Deem needs to have a recruiting budget worth a crap, same with Coach Tews, and Coach Meier. You can't throw them peanuts, and expect people to be cool with that. Miami sponsors fewer sports than **** near every other major football school for a reason, fewer mouths to feed. That said, they still have to feed the ones they do have.
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We can, but we won't. That's my point, that there is no change in philosophy with this administration and the football program, which is what the OP was asking.
 
Pickle Richt said:
We can, but we won't. That's my point, that there is no change in philosophy with this administration and the football program, which is what the OP was asking.
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Once again, do you understand how Title IX works? You have to throw them a sensible percentage, especially seeing that the larger schools are spending money on their non-revenue sports as well. Miami cannot totally ignore those sports, unless you are suggesting that Miami risks a major lawsuit that would threaten to ***** the University as a whole.
 
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