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absolutely terrible. I try and tell some people around me those Kia’s and Hyundais are ******* death traps. Built outta paper.
Parry - My wife and 2 kids survived - walked away from - a head-on while driving our Kia Niro EV last year.

Dude driving an early aughts Nissan sedan "had a seizure", jumped a bump median on a highway at about 45 -50 - Wife had a chance to hit brakes and mitigate, but lemme tell you borother, I have nothing but praise for KIA.
AGGRESSIVE braking system and safety features on the newer stuff.

She's in a leased Toyota SUV now - the depreciation of the EV, time pressure to get into another vehicle, and associated trauma kept us out of a replacement Niro - but we're waiting on the next gen of dry cell EV batteries. We will definitely take a hard look at KIA as a brand again if they have some nice offerings in late 27 when the Yota lease is up.

I get that Durango vs Soul and 80 vs 45-50 with braking isn't apples to apples, but I gotta stan for KIA rn, bc my family's wellbeing is in place because of their engineering.
 
If y'all have all these takes on here and wanna fly the banners on 3/4 of ****. Lighting this hoe *** dudes platform up to show him for the clown he is would be a decent start. Talking about should ban srt. Clown *** dude don't have any clue what's going on right now out here if cheap *** srt are his concerns. These jits are driving lambos, Ferraris,mods right & left. It's not about what car youre driving. It's simply being responsible and cautious in it. Dude wants to keep throwing things around and the only thing relevant here is the effects this accident had moving forward. Families are never gonna recover from this. AD more than likely never recovers from this. Two little children will never get to experience this world & the cars involved aren't relevant in that...
It’s far past time for adults to get in the room and resolve this NIL **** once and for all. The younger generations already grow up with an entitled mindset. NIL is just dousing fuel on that fire.

I haven’t seen this idea anywhere yet but…

Why can’t we put parameters in place? Something like… all nil monies go into a trust for the player that they can’t touch until they’re 30 years old - a g**** functioning adult with a developed brain. Give them 5% signing bonus upfront cash, rest goes into the trust.

Yes I know (this isn’t at you Dee) it won’t stop kids from getting under the table payments and high end cars … but ***** gotta get curbed somehow, someway. And nobody is coming to the table with any real ideas for resolution. At minimum one would think it would curb the asinine portal behavior.

**** like this tragedy just makes me sick - it didn’t and doesn’t have to be this way.
 
It’s far past time for adults to get in the room and resolve this NIL **** once and for all. The younger generations already grow up with an entitled mindset. NIL is just dousing fuel on that fire.

I haven’t seen this idea anywhere yet but…

Why can’t we put parameters in place? Something like… all nil monies go into a trust for the player that they can’t touch until they’re 30 years old - a g**** functioning adult with a developed brain. Give them 5% signing bonus upfront cash, rest goes into the trust.

Yes I know (this isn’t at you Dee) it won’t stop kids from getting under the table payments and high end cars … but ***** gotta get curbed somehow, someway. And nobody is coming to the table with any real ideas for resolution. At minimum one would think it would curb the asinine portal behavior.

**** like this tragedy just makes me sick - it didn’t and doesn’t have to be this way.
The issue with NIL that you are missing is that the US Supreme Court is not comprised of people who are college football fans. They look at college athletes as the 18 year old tennis players who can make as much as they want and have no guard rails as to what they can do with the money. The Supreme Court views this as an issue of free market economics. And guard rails or forced savings is contradictory to free market principles. People have a right to do dumb things. Now if those dumb things encroach upon someone else’s rights, well then there is a price to pay.

In the end there is no law or restriction which can be placed on NIL which will survive a legal challenge unless and until the issue is collectively bargained with representation for the student athletes. Everything short of that, including “presidential commissions” are nothing more than advisory at best, and a waste of time at worst.
 
The world needs more people like Elon Musk, and I hope we get to the day where 100% of all transportation is AI-controlled. I have much more faith in future technology than I do in humans.
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The issue with NIL that you are missing is that the US Supreme Court is not comprised of people who are college football fans. They look at college athletes as the 18 year old tennis players who can make as much as they want and have no guard rails as to what they can do with the money. The Supreme Court views this as an issue of free market economics. And guard rails or forced savings is contradictory to free market principles. People have a right to do dumb things. Now if those dumb things encroach upon someone else’s rights, well then there is a price to pay.

In the end there is no law or restriction which can be placed on NIL which will survive a legal challenge unless and until the issue is collectively bargained with representation for the student athletes. Everything short of that, including “presidential commissions” are nothing more than advisory at best, and a waste of time at worst.
Congress can also do some things around an antitrust exemption. But you're right about how difficult it is to make any changes to NIL under the prevailing case law.
 
The issue with NIL that you are missing is that the US Supreme Court is not comprised of people who are college football fans. They look at college athletes as the 18 year old tennis players who can make as much as they want and have no guard rails as to what they can do with the money. The Supreme Court views this as an issue of free market economics. And guard rails or forced savings is contradictory to free market principles. People have a right to do dumb things. Now if those dumb things encroach upon someone else’s rights, well then there is a price to pay.

In the end there is no law or restriction which can be placed on NIL which will survive a legal challenge unless and until the issue is collectively bargained with representation for the student athletes. Everything short of that, including “presidential commissions” are nothing more than advisory at best, and a waste of time at worst.
Appreciate the reply… makes sense.

Only thing that my simpleton mind can’t wrap my head around is the bolded. The courts and Feds can guardrail my (and yours) earnings in the name of social security that we can’t touch until a certain age… so why can’t it work for college kids/amateur athletes?

Just another example where logic and common sense have no place for a topic. Such a shame.
 
this isnt an NIL issue. there have been players driving fast cars since the beginning of time. there are also careless and reckless drivers who are not athletes. this is one of the them. he is clearly a reckless driver based on his past driving history regardless of this incident.
 
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I agree with the logic in general. However, a prius vs a hellcat is a whole different level of risk. But then again so is a 22 vs a 45. No easy answers besides leading by example and in most cases that comes from the home.
💯 all of this is just so unfortunate.
 
Appreciate the reply… makes sense.

Only thing that my simpleton mind can’t wrap my head around is the bolded. The courts and Feds can guardrail my (and yours) earnings in the name of social security that we can’t touch until a certain age… so why can’t it work for college kids/amateur athletes?

Just another example where logic and common sense have no place for a topic. Such a shame.
What does NIL have to do with Social Security? Other than the athletes receiving NIL also paying into social security with said earnings as well?
 
People aren’t charged criminally based on what geico says. This is referring to whether or not an insurance company pays a claim.
I've said a few times now that the insurance company determines who is at fault in a car accident; they do not determine criminal offenses. These are two separate items. A driver can be charged for the fault of the accident for pulling out in front of another vehicle. But the drive of the other vehicle can be charged with a crime if they were driving impaired (as an example).
 
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Appreciate the reply… makes sense.

Only thing that my simpleton mind can’t wrap my head around is the bolded. The courts and Feds can guardrail my (and yours) earnings in the name of social security that we can’t touch until a certain age… so why can’t it work for college kids/amateur athletes?

Just another example where logic and common sense have no place for a topic. Such a shame.
Social Security is a great example of how it could be done. Forced savings. But that was also put in place during the Great Depression when FDR was threatening to expand the size of the Supreme Court because they were shooting down a lot of his New Deal plans. Frankly, you have me wondering why it hasn’t been challenged more recently.
 
Even if the kid skates charges, the family is going to go after every cent he has civilly


Let's try not to speculate on such matters.

I expect we will have more information soon. Please be courteous and respectful. You never know who is reading this thread and what his or her connection to this tragic situation is.
 
It’s far past time for adults to get in the room and resolve this NIL **** once and for all. The younger generations already grow up with an entitled mindset. NIL is just dousing fuel on that fire.

I haven’t seen this idea anywhere yet but…

Why can’t we put parameters in place? Something like… all nil monies go into a trust for the player that they can’t touch until they’re 30 years old - a g**** functioning adult with a developed brain. Give them 5% signing bonus upfront cash, rest goes into the trust.

Yes I know (this isn’t at you Dee) it won’t stop kids from getting under the table payments and high end cars … but ***** gotta get curbed somehow, someway. And nobody is coming to the table with any real ideas for resolution. At minimum one would think it would curb the asinine portal behavior.

**** like this tragedy just makes me sick - it didn’t and doesn’t have to be this way.
We should probably just ban rap music because that's what they all listen to and it's distracting. Ban the deathmetal and tattoos as well.
 
Let's try not to speculate on such matters.

I expect we will have more information soon. Please be courteous and respectful. You never know who is reading this thread and what his or her connection to this tragic situation is.
Everyone read this above post and understand that TOC rarely ever makes a post that is somber and serious in this kind of tone. Act accordingly. I am done posting in this thread for now and wish for everyone impacted that this nightmare never happened.
 
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