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GrozDozer said:
Yeah true. I still don’t trust them. And both my vehicles are tanks too. Even my wife’s m SUV is top rated for crash. I got cousins and sisters packing their kids in little Kia’s and Hyundais and it makes me nervous. All they see is the price tag. Meanwhile I’m trying to push 1999-2014 Landcrusiers on everyone like it’s my job.
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I definitely agree. My wife has a Honda Pilot, and my Tundra Crewmax has become our every day family vehicle for that same reason.
 
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StPeteCane said:
I definitely agree. My wife has a Honda Pilot, and my Tundra Crewmax has become our every day family vehicle for that same reason.
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Yep. I have a Tundra Crewmax too. It’s a 2018 and I’ll run this thing into the ground. Fits 2 car seats better than my wife’s Subaru.
 
Bender said:
I think any sort of speculation in regards to who is at fault and all that is unnecessary. The authorities will determine and we'll have a full picture.

It's horrible that we have two dead and a young man hospitalized with a head injury. That's all I care about.

I don't want another Kyren Lacy situation, regardless of what happened there, this stuff breaks my heart. Forgiveness is a long road that everyone should follow.
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Best take so far. In cases like this there's always endless speculation. Just pray for those involved and wait for the official explanation.
 
Ibis4life said:
Best take so far. In cases like this there's always endless speculation. Just pray for those involved and wait for the official explanation.
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We know what happened. A left turn in front of a speeding driver. We know speeding was involved due to the severity of the accident. We don't know how far over the speed limit he was going, but he for sure wasn't going 40 mph. Insurance companies would likely put negligence on both drivers. Was the speeding so severe that it outweighs the left turn? We don't know yet.
 
Elmer Leghorn said:
I handle auto claims. You have to determine proximate cause and consider comparative negligence. You are right about the speed and left turn. Typically, a left turn in front of someone is failure to yield right of way and usually the proximate cause. With excessive speed involved, the proximate cause can flip to the driver speeding. Going 15 over the speed limit is no bueno, but still likely not the cause. Going 40 mph over the speed limit is totally different.
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Had a friend in a car accident recently. (Everyone is on thankfully) they were making the left turn and a car sped up. The car was speeding over 30 mph above the speed limit. Still the cops wrote the ticket for the left turn. The speeder had the right of way they said.
 
iamB_rock said:
Had a friend in a car accident recently. (Everyone is on thankfully) they were making the left turn and a car sped up. The car was speeding over 30 mph above the speed limit. Still the cops wrote the ticket for the left turn. The speeder had the right of way they said.
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I promise that the insurance companies will apply negligence to both. They don't have to agree with the police investigation. 30 mph over is negligent. Border line severe negligence
 
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Elmer Leghorn said:
I promise that the insurance companies will apply negligence to both. They don't have to agree with the police investigation. 30 mph over is negligent. Border line severe negligence
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Not saying this is what happened in this case because we DONT KNOW YET but in theory if your speed is so fast you could have been out of range or perception to the person making the left hand turn that it overrules right if way as leading factor.

If you’re on the highway as example and you’re doing 60 you look up you see you have distance to switch lanes not realizing the car you saw in distance is doing 120 closing way faster than you would expect - you’re not going to be primarily at fault in many cases.

Insurance coverage though is the least of anyone’s worries. Mother’s Day just making it worse today
 
Ispyin said:
Not saying this is what happened in this case because we DONT KNOW YET but in theory if your speed is so fast you could have been out of range or perception to the person making the left hand turn that it overrules right if way as leading factor.

If you’re on the highway as example and you’re doing 60 you look up you see you have distance to switch lanes not realizing the car you saw in distance is doing 120 closing way faster than you would expect - you’re not going to be primarily at fault in many cases.

Insurance coverage though is the least of anyone’s worries. Mother’s Day just making it worse today
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Exactly
 
On behalf of anyone who has ever lost someone in a car accident, please shut your mouths unless it is 100% respectful.

I lost a brother in a car accident almost 20 years ago. Most people kept their messages short and to the point - “I’m sorry for your loss.” Anything else quickly becomes the person speaking out of their ******; usually with disregard for the actual feelings of those who lost a loved one. One person actually told my mother “at least you have other kids…” like it was a consolation prize. There were a couple others, but that’s enough. If I have to explain this more or you don’t get it, I feel bad for you. If you’ve ever heard a mother wail at her child’s funeral, you know what I mean.

We don’t need internet crime sleuths, comparative photo evidence, speed experts, legal advice/explaining, theories and guesses. Yes, it’s a message board, so I get to a point that people are processing this as they go, but cmon. Show some common decency. If you’re unsure, say little to nothing. This is CiS, not CSI Miami. It’s Mother’s day today. If you’re lucky enough to still have moms kicking around, make sure you tell her you love her. There’s one mother today who won’t have a good day because lost two of her children.
 
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As someone who worked in LE for a few years, and has seen these incidents, you simply CANNOT deduct what occurred from photos.

They will investigate, and a clearer picture will come out eventually. It’s Mother’s Day. And a lot of people are now grieving and going though it. No need to joke, or play investigator.

Long road ahead for everyone associated here. Praying for all parties
 
Reyrey said:
As someone who worked in LE for a few years, and has seen these incidents, you simply CANNOT deduct what occurred from photos.

They will investigate, and a clearer picture will come out eventually. It’s Mother’s Day. And a lot of people are now grieving and going though it. No need to joke, or play investigator.

Long road ahead for everyone associated here. Praying for all parties
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Ispyin said:
Not saying this is what happened in this case because we DONT KNOW YET but in theory if your speed is so fast you could have been out of range or perception to the person making the left hand turn that it overrules right if way as leading factor.

If you’re on the highway as example and you’re doing 60 you look up you see you have distance to switch lanes not realizing the car you saw in distance is doing 120 closing way faster than you would expect - you’re not going to be primarily at fault in many cases.

Insurance coverage though is the least of anyone’s worries. Mother’s Day just making it worse today
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Accurate. My ex pulled out of a 7/11 intoxicated (blew a .24!!) in front of a motorcycle going an estimated 110mph at night per CSI and the family of the motorcycle driver wanted her prosecuted for manslaughter. The prosecutors would not do it because they said even a sober person might have figured they had the time to enter the roadway safely given the rate of speed. She got 30 days in jail though.

Criminal standards are obviously different than negligence standards. He's definitely getting sued for wrongful death no matter what. I work for an insurance defense firm now but I used to represent plaintiffs.
 
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