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A ****** coach with a great AD will fail just as much as a great coach with a ****** AD. See FSU for evidence.
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I disagree. if Lane is a realistic option then Lane/Mario is a wash but Jurich is a far better hire than Tony. so Kiffin/Jurich > Mario/Tony
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Wanted to pass along notes I have gathered from multiple sources in recent days…
- On the front end, let me make this clear once again. The focus now for Miami is getting the next athletic director in place. Whether or not future dominoes fall (a head football coaching search) won’t happen until that AD is hired. That next AD is going to make the decision on whether Manny Diaz is retained or not as the head coach. I’m sure the vision for the future of the UM head football coach situation will be relayed by the prospective athletic directors during the interview process etc.
- I would not be shocked if the new AD is hired at some point this week. If not this week, then relatively soon after the Duke game on Saturday. Again, Miami has a search firm that is helping expedite the athletic director hiring.
- A key date to keep in mind with all of this is the recruiting calendar. The contact period opens on Sunday, November 28th, which is when coaches can hit the road and recruit in person. The early signing period for football is December 15-17. Having coaches on the road during this time of uncertainty, while commonplace, does present some awkward situations (for instance if an announcement is made that a separation has occurred while an assistant is in the living room with a recruit).
- There is a lot of smoke around former Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich right now. Here is what I know in regard to that…Jurich has been pushing hard for the job behind the scenes. Jurich has relationships with some Board of Trustee members that are vouching for him as well. I have reason to believe Jurich and Miami’s decision makers on this athletic director hire had some conversations late last week and those conversations have gone well.
- There is a belief amongst people familiar with this athletic director hiring process that Jurich is “in the driver’s seat” with this search, but I am trying to dig more on whether that is a smoke screen or a ‘where there is smoke, there is fire’ situation.
- I’ll say this about Jurich and Miami…He does fit the profile of what UM is looking for in its next athletic director. Miami is searching for an aggressive personality that will not shy away from asking for resources from the school. The UM decision makers also want an AD that has a vision with how to navigate an uncertain college football landscape over the next five years. Conference realignment, College Football Playoff expansion, name, image, and likeness are all major talking points moving forward and Miami wants an AD that is willing to have an aggressive plan an vision for attacking these areas. While at Louisville from 1997-2017, Jurich was regarded as one of the best athletic directors in the country as he elevated the athletic department from Conference USA to the Big East to the ACC. During Jurich’s tenure, there were many updates to the football stadium, including a $63 million expansion that was completed in 2019. During Jurich’s tenure at Louisville, the Cardinals were also successful in basketball and baseball. He also landed a ten year, $160M deal with Adidas back in 2017. Jurich has the reputation of being a tremendous fundraiser and his ability to connect with deep pocketed boosters (which Miami does have), is special. Despite his fallout with the the school, he is still a beloved figure in Louisville circles.
- Jurich was relieved of his duties due at Louisville in 2017 due to being caught up in the Adidas basketball scandal that was investigated by the FBI. Jurich has since been absolved of any wrongdoing in that scandal by Louisville. From the Adidas side of things, it is believed that Jurich still has very strong relationships at the top of the company and it wouldn’t be an issue if he were to lead the Miami program, which is an Adidas school.
- One other reason why Jurich makes a lot of sense is timeline. He can start as soon as possible.
- Not that this means much in the decision making process, but Jurich had a close relationship with the late Howard Schnellenberger, who coached both at Miami and Louisville. The football facility at Louisville is named the ‘Howard Schnellenberger Football Complex.’ Just an interesting note.
With the Florida job opening up, it is fair to wonder what that domino means for UM’s POTENTIAL search for a head football coach with two of the POTENTIAL top targets. Here are some notes I have gathered from sources in the college football community…
- If Miami were to open AND Mario Cristobaldecided he would be open to leaving the situation he currently has at Oregon, Miami would be a more attractive destination than Florida, assuming UM is willing to give him the resources he deems acceptable. When comparing Miami and Florida, UM is more appealing because it is home. It is believed Cristobal’s camp does not consider Gainesville as home, even though it is a city in his home state.
- Would Lane Kiffin have interest in Florida? The belief in the industry is that he would. Does Florida have interest in Kiffin? There is a sense that the UF administration and decision makers are a little hesitant to go all in on Kiffin because the immaturity he has shown at previous coaching stops. Has Kiffin matured in recent years? You can make that argument, but there are certainly programs that are hesitant on Kiffin because of his past reputation.
- One other interesting note to pass along…Because Miami is a private institution, the school does not have to make their coaching salaries public. How well does Miami pay its football coaching staff? I’ve had multiple people around the program explain to me that Miami has the second highest paid coaching staff in the ACC this year. I don’t have the exact figures for Miami, but in 2020, Clemson paid its staff $7.6M, which was the highest salary staffing pool in the ACC. Florida State’s assistant coach salary pool was publicly recognized as the second highest in the ACC at $5.3M in 2020. UM is somewhere between those numbers of FSU and Clemson. Now it is worth point out, however, that Miami’s staffing salaries would be considered in the middle tier of the SEC and Big 10 conferences. It is also worth noting that Oregon’s staff salary in 2021 is reportedly just over $6M, which would be in line with what Miami currently pays its staff.
Wanted to pass along notes I have gathered from multiple sources in recent days…
- On the front end, let me make this clear once again. The focus now for Miami is getting the next athletic director in place. Whether or not future dominoes fall (a head football coaching search) won’t happen until that AD is hired. That next AD is going to make the decision on whether Manny Diaz is retained or not as the head coach. I’m sure the vision for the future of the UM head football coach situation will be relayed by the prospective athletic directors during the interview process etc.
- I would not be shocked if the new AD is hired at some point this week. If not this week, then relatively soon after the Duke game on Saturday. Again, Miami has a search firm that is helping expedite the athletic director hiring.
- A key date to keep in mind with all of this is the recruiting calendar. The contact period opens on Sunday, November 28th, which is when coaches can hit the road and recruit in person. The early signing period for football is December 15-17. Having coaches on the road during this time of uncertainty, while commonplace, does present some awkward situations (for instance if an announcement is made that a separation has occurred while an assistant is in the living room with a recruit).
- There is a lot of smoke around former Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich right now. Here is what I know in regard to that…Jurich has been pushing hard for the job behind the scenes. Jurich has relationships with some Board of Trustee members that are vouching for him as well. I have reason to believe Jurich and Miami’s decision makers on this athletic director hire had some conversations late last week and those conversations have gone well.
- There is a belief amongst people familiar with this athletic director hiring process that Jurich is “in the driver’s seat” with this search, but I am trying to dig more on whether that is a smoke screen or a ‘where there is smoke, there is fire’ situation.
- I’ll say this about Jurich and Miami…He does fit the profile of what UM is looking for in its next athletic director. Miami is searching for an aggressive personality that will not shy away from asking for resources from the school. The UM decision makers also want an AD that has a vision with how to navigate an uncertain college football landscape over the next five years. Conference realignment, College Football Playoff expansion, name, image, and likeness are all major talking points moving forward and Miami wants an AD that is willing to have an aggressive plan an vision for attacking these areas. While at Louisville from 1997-2017, Jurich was regarded as one of the best athletic directors in the country as he elevated the athletic department from Conference USA to the Big East to the ACC. During Jurich’s tenure, there were many updates to the football stadium, including a $63 million expansion that was completed in 2019. During Jurich’s tenure at Louisville, the Cardinals were also successful in basketball and baseball. He also landed a ten year, $160M deal with Adidas back in 2017. Jurich has the reputation of being a tremendous fundraiser and his ability to connect with deep pocketed boosters (which Miami does have), is special. Despite his fallout with the the school, he is still a beloved figure in Louisville circles.
- Jurich was relieved of his duties due at Louisville in 2017 due to being caught up in the Adidas basketball scandal that was investigated by the FBI. Jurich has since been absolved of any wrongdoing in that scandal by Louisville. From the Adidas side of things, it is believed that Jurich still has very strong relationships at the top of the company and it wouldn’t be an issue if he were to lead the Miami program, which is an Adidas school.
- One other reason why Jurich makes a lot of sense is timeline. He can start as soon as possible.
- Not that this means much in the decision making process, but Jurich had a close relationship with the late Howard Schnellenberger, who coached both at Miami and Louisville. The football facility at Louisville is named the ‘Howard Schnellenberger Football Complex.’ Just an interesting note.
With the Florida job opening up, it is fair to wonder what that domino means for UM’s POTENTIAL search for a head football coach with two of the POTENTIAL top targets. Here are some notes I have gathered from sources in the college football community…
- If Miami were to open AND Mario Cristobaldecided he would be open to leaving the situation he currently has at Oregon, Miami would be a more attractive destination than Florida, assuming UM is willing to give him the resources he deems acceptable. When comparing Miami and Florida, UM is more appealing because it is home. It is believed Cristobal’s camp does not consider Gainesville as home, even though it is a city in his home state.
- Would Lane Kiffin have interest in Florida? The belief in the industry is that he would. Does Florida have interest in Kiffin? There is a sense that the UF administration and decision makers are a little hesitant to go all in on Kiffin because the immaturity he has shown at previous coaching stops. Has Kiffin matured in recent years? You can make that argument, but there are certainly programs that are hesitant on Kiffin because of his past reputation.
- One other interesting note to pass along…Because Miami is a private institution, the school does not have to make their coaching salaries public. How well does Miami pay its football coaching staff? I’ve had multiple people around the program explain to me that Miami has the second highest paid coaching staff in the ACC this year. I don’t have the exact figures for Miami, but in 2020, Clemson paid its staff $7.6M, which was the highest salary staffing pool in the ACC. Florida State’s assistant coach salary pool was publicly recognized as the second highest in the ACC at $5.3M in 2020. UM is somewhere between those numbers of FSU and Clemson. Now it is worth point out, however, that Miami’s staffing salaries would be considered in the middle tier of the SEC and Big 10 conferences. It is also worth noting that Oregon’s staff salary in 2021 is reportedly just over $6M, which would be in line with what Miami currently pays its staff.
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He is headed back to Kentucky lolol
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Any planes leaving Lubbock for Miami?
Anyone in Louisiana with missile launchers?
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I am in Germany, I dont think ones from WW2 go that far.
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You’re crying non stop about a structure you have no clue about.
Why don’t you wait until something actually happens before flooding CiS with your waterfall of tears.
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Wow your faith in Mario is big. I agree he is better than what we had but is he the best we can get and are we basically going to let him shape the course of not just the football program but the other sports programs for the foreseeable future by having him call who the next AD is?
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Nope. Not even close. At top winning programs the AD practically works for the celebrity football coach. The BOT and the budget are more important the AD to be honest.
And you can hire and fire an AD really easily. Buyouts are nominal, recruiting isn't affected. Getting the right football coach who WINS has such an outsized effect on revenue is dwarfs any reasonable variance with an AD's performance.
And Tony would NOT be a ****** AD. Not even close. Not a home run alpha like Jurich, but the difference is nominal when compared to Mario vs. who we would probably end up with as coach. ****, the donations and sales in the first month of Mario as coach would be enough to warrant it.
Every one who writes something like you just wrote I truly feel has lost their minds. Mario is not some HR. Despite the beliefs of some on this board we will not be battling the LSU's and Florida's and USC's for his services. He is not the top candidate at any of those schools. Because they like rest of the country don't think much of beating up on the Pac-12. You would think a conference rival like USC would go all in but they know what a dominant Pac-12 squad looks like. Oregon aint it. He would be 3rd and 4th on all their list if that and yet he's 1, 2 and 3 on ours because Miami.
Falling all over ourselves for guy that doesn't have even a winning road record in conference. You take a breath and think about a guy who isn't even above .500 on the road in that terrible conference. 8-8 in 4 years in Pac-12 road games. I'm pretty sure you and others who have used the word entitled don't know the correct context of when to use it. You can't list all the bad coaches we've endured and call us entitled. Maybe we've learned to recognize flaws better than most and aren't swayed by winning games in the worst division in the Power 5.
And would you please stop writing "he loves Miami" like that means a **** thing. I don't care if the next coach wore Miami gear in black and white because he hates the school colors as long as he wins.
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I'd call Lane Kiffin back if that's the case.
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If it's Hernandez just fold the ******* program. I've had enough of the Columbus crew.
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Haith left for Mizzou and Hocutt left for Texas Tech. Hernandez was named "Acting" AD. Instead of waiting for Eichorst to be hired to replace Hocutt and to make the hoops hire it turned into a complete comedy show with Hernandez thinking he could make a splash and make the hire with the blessing of the Tomato King. So the guy immediately flies to Boston and offers the job to Tommy Amaker at freakin' Harvard. This all immediately goes public, Amaker turns us down and Hernandez and us as a mighty ACC school are left with egg on our face as people debate whether Hernandez was even authorized to offer Amaker the job.
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Jimbo Fisher would disagree.
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Now, now, no need to get so violent. The plane will crash due to exceeding the weight limit. You've heard of Aaliyah, right?
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If they give in to Mario it just proves that they've learned nothing. Mario isn't Saban or Dabo or even Urban, there are multiple comparable coaches Miami could get.
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I am not some Mario fanboy. I think he is right inside the top 10 coaches. But I evaluate assets, determine risk, and invest for a living. Mario is a home run hire you ape into. The odds of us landing anyone CLOSE to him are very, small. We are a top 30-40 program right now. Learn how to say yes and take the win. Mario WILL RECRUIT as well as anyone can here. Say yes. Don't overthink. Everything else is secondary. Don't lose focus.
BTW... this is all IF Mario will even come! I am not convinced he will yet.
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