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But without nonsensical tiebreakers where like 5 different teams have to potentially be sorted out; how could the Tobacco Road mafia cuck its own conference just to get one of their trash North Carolina schools into the CCG!?
 
F-MarioCristobal said:
They have to change it going to 9 conference games.

Go to quadrants or divisions or something. Pick up an 18th team and kick the 6 game agreement with ND. Everyone has publicly said that games against ND mean nothing
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Just bring in Uconn problem solved end agreement with ND. **** them. Their other sports bring nothing..uconn in bball would be huge
 
gogeta4 said:
Just bring in Uconn problem solved end agreement with ND. **** them. Their other sports bring nothing..uconn in bball would be huge
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I’d absolutely drop the ND game next year if I were Miami. Add another 8-9 win G5 team. Load up the OOC games with high win% G5 teams. Then focus on the ACC. It’s the only guaranteed way of getting in. I’d also schedule an OOC FCS game for some time in Nov for another bye week.
 
PennsylvaniaCane said:
I’d absolutely drop the ND game next year if I were Miami. Add another 8-9 win G5 team. Load up the OOC games with high win% G5 teams. Then focus on the ACC. It’s the only guaranteed way of getting in. I’d also schedule an OOC FCS game for some time in Nov for another bye week.
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im on board with dropping them...add uconn as they are independent or any other independent.

that game does nothing for us considering we dont need ND for ratings...we are a rating monster regardless.

Thats their go to..playing them gets you visibility. We arent west virginia we dont need their visibility when a in against them does nothing for us no matter what as its considered a good loss for them. If most conferences thought like tis they woulda been forced to join a conference a while ago but folks keep lining up agreements with them.
 
LeanMeanOrangeGreen said:
Yes I know there’s a million threads about the tiebreaker situation but I think the actual idiotic system itself needs its own bashing thread because my God, what a moronic predicament the ACC put itself in with these tiebreaker rules. Honestly, I don’t even understand them because it’s so confusing, but the fact we can somehow lose a tiebreaker situation to Duke tells you all you need to know about its stupidity. How about this for your 5 team tiebreaker scenario:

- Highest ranked team gets the nod or best overall record.

There you go. The most simple, logical way to break a potential 5 team tie. Someone get Jim Phillips on the line.
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So we want to be the American conference

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PennsylvaniaCane said:
I’d absolutely drop the ND game next year if I were Miami. Add another 8-9 win G5 team. Load up the OOC games with high win% G5 teams. Then focus on the ACC. It’s the only guaranteed way of getting in. I’d also schedule an OOC FCS game for some time in Nov for another bye week.
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I have bad news for everybody who understandably is mad about the Notre Dame game and how it’s not working for us on the obvious head-to-head level

If we drop that game as a victory because we’re ****ed about head-to-head, it also would drop our strength of schedule strength of record FPI game control stats and we would fall down further

As another aside, if we were still in the BCS era heading into this weekend before the results of this past Saturday, Miami would actually be 15th, not 12th, and Notre Dame would still be where they were.

I understand if they went to a straight computer model it might not necessarily look exactly like the BCS, but it probably would be pretty **** close

Be careful what you wish for

I am not defending any of this ****. I’m just trying to give some information due with it as you will.

Again, these rankings are before the results of Miami Virginia Tech weekend. I have not seen the new version yet.
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There is no "might" to it. The ACC still views football as a fun little activity for student athletes instead of the cash cow for the conference, and all its schools, that it actually is.

The ACC hasn't even figured out that conference scheduling matters.

Games played between bye weeks for the ACC:

Cal: 6 games (BYE) 4 games (BYE) 2 games
Clemson: 4 games (BYE) 3 games (BYE) 5 games
Louisville: 2 games (BYE) 3 games (BYE) 7 games
Miami: 4 games (BYE) 1 game (BYE) 7 games
NC State: 7 games (BYE) 2 games (BYE) 3 games
Pitt: 3 games (BYE) 6 games (BYE) 3 games
SMU: 4 games (BYE) 6 games (BYE) 2 games
Virginia: 6 games (BYE) 5 games (BYE) 1 game

3 of those 8 teams play 7 games before or after a bye.
7 of 8 play at least 6 games before or after a bye.
We got our second bye week 2 weeks after our first bye.
Virginia got their second bye one week before their final game of the season.

Meanwhile, in the SEC:

Alabama : 3 games (BYE) 5 games (BYE) 4 games
Florida: 4 games (BYE) 3 games (BYE) 5 games
Georgia: 3 games (BYE) 4 games (BYE) 5 games
LSU: 5 games (BYE) 3 games (BYE) 4 games
Oklahoma: 4 games (BYE) 5 games (BYE) 3 games
Ole Miss: 5 games (BYE) 6 games (BYE) 1 games
Tennessee 5 games (BYE) 4 games (BYE) 3 games
Texas: 4 games (BYE) 5 games (BYE) 3 games
Texas A&M: 3 games (BYE) 5 games (BYE) 4 games

Notice how all but one team don't play more than 5 games or fewer than 3 between byes?

Most of them have FCS/G5 opponents during their 5 game stretches or after their final bye, like Ole Miss which plays an FCS and G5 team during both of their multi game stretches.
 
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Ispyin said:
I have bad news for everybody who understandably is mad about the Notre Dame game and how it’s not working for us on the obvious head-to-head level

If we drop that game as a victory because we’re ****ed about head-to-head, it also would drop our strength of schedule strength of record FPI game control stats and we would fall down further

As another aside, if we were still in the BCS era heading into this weekend before the results of this past Saturday, Miami would actually be 15th, not 12th, and Notre Dame would still be where they were

Be careful what you wish for
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lol, we could have a top 5 SOS and we wouldn’t be getting in with 2 losses because we don’t have a Big or SEC patch. Only way to guarantee a spot is to focus on the acccg. Load up with cupcake G5 8-10 win teams, schedule a FCS game for November as another bye.

Flip the scenario. If we lost to ND and UF would we be ranked in the top 10-12? Say we were blowing through the ACC and won 9 straight. Would they have us in as an at large or only as a potential ACC champ?
 
PennsylvaniaCane said:
lol, we could have a top 5 SOS and we wouldn’t be getting in with 2 losses because we don’t have a Big or SEC patch. Only way to guarantee a spot is to focus on the acccg. Load up with cupcake G5 8-10 win teams, schedule a FCS game for November as another bye.

Flip the scenario. If we lost to ND and UF would we be ranked in the top 10-12? Say we were blowing through the ACC and won 9 straight. Would they have us in as an at large or only as a potential ACC champ?
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this is the question all our media members need to be putting in the air.
 
ACC is set up in the worst way. You have too many teams lumped into one division. The fact that Miami doesn't get to play Virginia, Duke, GT and 8 other ACC teams that are all vying for 2 spots is ridiculous. Ya, we could have won vs UL and SMU. But ideally you play every team that is competing with you for a spot, ie when we had the Atlantic and Coastal divisions. You had the chance to win the H2H over all the other teams competing for that bid from your division.

IMO the ACC is dead after 2031. There's no way FSU, Clemson and Miami stay. They either join another conference or make their own. I don't even know how that would work tho honestly.
 
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Nothing about the schedule is likely to change next year. These games are booked too far out.

If the ACC as a conference decides to drop the ND games, they will have to go out and book 6 additional games. Doubt they'd do that with one season notice.

Maybe for 2027???????

I also question whether anyone looks at the bye week distribution. I'm sure it's another computer generated feature that can be manually adjusted. AFter seeing a graphic with the SEC teams and their bye weeks, it's pretty clear they make sure they are strategically placed.

Phillips has been mute over the CFP rankings . Disgraceful
 
LeanMeanOrangeGreen said:
Yes I know there’s a million threads about the tiebreaker situation but I think the actual idiotic system itself needs its own bashing thread because my God, what a moronic predicament the ACC put itself in with these tiebreaker rules. Honestly, I don’t even understand them because it’s so confusing, but the fact we can somehow lose a tiebreaker situation to Duke tells you all you need to know about its stupidity. How about this for your 5 team tiebreaker scenario:

- Highest ranked team gets the nod or best overall record.

There you go. The most simple, logical way to break a potential 5 team tie. Someone get Jim Phillips on the line.
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I think it should go to the team whose opponents got called for the least amount of penalties...
 
LeanMeanOrangeGreen said:
Yes I know there’s a million threads about the tiebreaker situation but I think the actual idiotic system itself needs its own bashing thread because my God, what a moronic predicament the ACC put itself in with these tiebreaker rules. Honestly, I don’t even understand them because it’s so confusing, but the fact we can somehow lose a tiebreaker situation to Duke tells you all you need to know about its stupidity. How about this for your 5 team tiebreaker scenario:

- Highest ranked team gets the nod or best overall record.

There you go. The most simple, logical way to break a potential 5 team tie. Someone get Jim Phillips on the line.
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That’s a dumb solution because it takes into account non conference games and puts it in the hands of a subjective committee. As stupid as tiebreakers might be, they are objective. They have to get worse as leagues get higher and there might be 6+ conference teams you won’t play
 
Miami[]_[]Smoke said:
That’s a dumb solution because it takes into account non conference games and puts it in the hands of a subjective committee. As stupid as tiebreakers might be, they are objective. They have to get worse as leagues get higher and there might be 6+ conference teams you won’t play
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Why wouldn’t you want to make non-conference games a factor? Do you want the best team in your league to play in the leagues biggest game? Okay then the ACC should consider us beating ND and Dukes loss to…UConn….
 
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